People who talk about their will to attempt suicide and prevent others from suicide at the same time.
I’m not saying that if you feel suicidal, you should encourage everybody, but dammit, how could tell others that their lives are valuable when you can’t appreciate yours? Either stop bitching about how you want to throw your life away or stop lying about how life never should be thrown away.
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This is unproductive. Not very nice either.
However it is your opinion, have at it.
It however, is not a truism.
Well one possible explanation is that there are people here who STRUGGLE with suicide. Meaning they may have many days where they are feeling good and want to live. Then they might have a few bad days and then start to feel suicidal again. Or might slip back into depression or slip back into cutting. So I don’t necessarily think its correct to say its hypocritical. I think we here are all struggling to defeat depression or suicide or some other thing such as cutting. I don’t think its wrong for a person who struggles in one of these areas to try to encourage others to live or to get better. Its kind of l like we are all in our own rocky boat and we are all trying to help each other stay afloat because that is the right thing to do. Also when you think of it who better to encourage one another then people with the same issues. Meaning some people in the world don’t know what its like to struggle with these issues. People who do know how hrd it is and try to help one another. That is not hypocritical > its people struggling in the same areas trying best to all pull together and get better. Thats how I see it.
We are a community to help each other.
I help you through the pain and you will help me through the pain. There have been many times I wanted to end my life but SP and its wonderful members gave me strength to keep going. I also hope to do the same for anyone who is struggling.
There are many members on here that appreciate life but it’s the circumstances in which they are placed which damage the will to live.
Eh…maybe I’m not making sense. All I know is I would probably be locked up in a hospital all alone if it wasn’t for my family on SP.
No offence but If this particular post is about me.
I want to say my life sucks.
Okey I agree it.
Killing myself is fucking impossible for me. I failed so many times.
I am in complete agony.
Since i can’t die which means I have to live and I can’t live like this. Because I am fucking tired of suffering everyday, every minute.
Every morning I used to think why I’m alive yet, even now I think that but after that I instantly think it’s a victory. 🙂 and put a smile on my ugly face. 🙂 and decided to make this day awesome.
There is nothing wrong to have hope in living, that some day your pain will be gone. But it’s completely wrong to suffer miserably everyday knowing you can’t die.
There wasn’t any anger or hate in my reply. These are just my shattered emotions and poor coping methods.
I know you are in so much pain right now.it is possible that I may not understand your pain but still I know you are in pain. I hope soon you will find yourself out of this situation. And even though you and I both don’t believe in god. I will pray for your good beings because I believe in energies. 🙂
Damit Your Killing me with all this……..
No Peace this post is to me. Nidda I don’t know what to say I gave you my thoughts and you are soo fuckin foul for posting this. I have no means to tell someone “it’s okay go kill yourself” “this is how to do it”. why its not my place to ack them on. I had such a great day and idky this post bothers me but it does. However I know who I am and all I do is reply and relate to the OP of my dealings in my mess anyways there’s nothing more for me to say because a lot of us are limited and I don’t want to say hartful things that I don’t mean. Still Nidda I get your point but I’m not a hypocrite I just don’t like seeing people hurt especially by my own encouragement and it’s never happened in my life and I’d like to keep it that way as I relate with others
Lol 😀
Sorry i am sure most of people here will think that this post is for them.
Because I think lots of our emotions are same . Most of us hate thier livies, most of us don’t have friends, some of us are completely friendless. Almost everyone here is emotionally broke. So whenever someone posted something, we always feel connected somehow even though we reply or not.
So nothing new. We all are old same ‘we’. 🙂
I believe SP is lots of things and it’s also an expressing portal. So.. 🙂 let everyone express thier feelings. 🙂
No me5hods
Nice, Right and necessary addition.
This post wasn’t meant to any specific person, I had this idea all day and when I came here and started to read posts, it got stronger, and I had to post it.
Alright since your so strong about this how should we comment people
Like I said earlier this post is not productive nor does it follow the tenets of this forum. It is hateful and targets our most vulnerable population struggling to find acceptance and a reason to continue. For many continuing means helping others because they are either too broken or too self loathing to help themselves. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
I completely agree with you hazy thanks as for Nidda I respect you for honesty and you have my support I wish you nothing but good *high five*
If I may and not to bash your position….. But if you were 100% sure you wanted to die, u would be dead.
Everybody here has some incling of hope, and are just trying to find it. Even yourself, as distant as it may seem, it is there.
Dying isn’t as simple as that. Our body and brain are programmed to survive, it’s a deep instinct you have to kill in order to die, and it’s not easy. Trust me, I have tried it. The reason I am still here is because my method wasn’t 100% sure. Now I have an other method but I just need to get my things in order as I would’t want my loved ones to do them. I know that many people say that if you kill yourself, you give a fuck about your loved ones and the future, because you will not be there, but to me it isn’t like that.
No hate.
Yes hazy. 🙂
Pure love nothing else. 🙂
Fairly certain this isn’t the Nidda project.
Be kind.
Wet Willies for Everyone
Exavtly.
Yea exactly need to mix some Bailey’s and marshmallows perfect combo
*puts marshmallows in his ears to protect from the next round of Willies**
Hahaha
I could write a long response to this, but the most important part would be that hypocrisy doesn’t come into it. For a start, being suicidal doesn’t mean someone doesn’t think living is important. It isn’t as simple as wanting to throw your life away. Secondly, not all suicidal people are the same. Someone might see a chance in somebody else that they don’t have. But for most people, their situation is much more complex, as are the reasons for them trying to help others stay alive. (There are so many things to mention there – people wanting to feel like they’ve done some good, people being sympathetic, wanting to help someone who’s going through a situation you’ve been through, people trying – even subconsciously – to remind themselves, as well as others, of reasons to hold on. There are so many factors, and it changes from person to person.) If someone was judgmental about somebody else being suicidal when they were too, then you’d have reason to call them a hypocrite. But words like “hypocrite”, “bitching” and “lying” only show you passing judgment on others – and to me it looks like you’re seeing things from a perspective where you’re looking (again, probably subconsciously) for things to dislike in people. You’re seeing it from quite an extreme negative perspective.
Yes finally Thank you trix I swear I couldn’t word it out better than you god bless
Hey NiDDA, what made you post this? Just musings or something else? I can’t help but feel there’s more to your post than meets the eye…
For what it’s worth I agree that I am a hypocrite. And I’m ok with it 🙂
Furthermore I do not believe, for one second, that anyone else here is actually one.
I see where you’re coming from with the post, but more often than not those who need help can offer just as much in return. It’s not about hypocrisy, we are all in different places right now and humans seem to be much better at dealing with situations they are external to than their own.
What makes me a hypocrite? Well I personally came here because I have no intention of seeing 35. And I am still confident about achieving that. Does that totally negate what I’ve learned in life so far? No.
Alright then so how could i possibly offer advice to someone with that attitude? Because irrespective of my starting point I still have some experiences and opinions that may/may not be of worth to others. This is a support network *insert Trix’s excellent point here* . Especially when you think of the myriad of mental heath issues and their complexities.
I reply to posts and if I can, offer advice, because I feel I’d like to say something constructive (usually lol). If everyone ignores me/doesn’t contact me then I’m fine with that. However if I can help someone…or even make them smile/grin/snort after what may be a day of gloom and sadness whilst I’m around then fuck it. I don’t care. I’m a hypocrite and it’s totally worth it!
Apologies to Trix for the highjack mid way but you’re spot on as with many replies imo 🙂
…and now for some jagermeister and marshmallows…*takes one from ToTrees’ ear* :-D…
Sloppy wet finger in Limited_infinity’s ear
Eeeeewwwwww….but totally worth it the marshmallow tastes great! Sliced jager happiness hahaha
Maybe I think I am a hyprocrite if I try to help somebody. Maybe this post is only for me, maybe this post is about my inner fight.
Actually, if this somehow leads to you being able to help yourself then that’s pretty cool. I’d take care not to do it at the cost of everything else though. As support networks go this is pretty solid imo (I’m being polite, for me its by far the best thing since the invention of sliced bread!) and considering the sensitive nature of this place, may I suggest a little more tact may in future..?
I get that everyone’s here for similar reasons but the journey to self acceptance and/or understanding why we are down to begin with is never easy. While I don’t wish to offend, I’m always open to anything that makes me question why I am and why I do what I do. I enjoy learning new things, especially about myself. So thank you NiDDA 🙂
NiDDA – I’ve appreciated your authenticity in prior posts as well as this post. And I get your point. I’m real ‘literal’, and that’s the way I interpret this post of yours about hypocrisy.
Others here on SP have often posted about how strange it seems to want to die, but yet to tell others they shouldn’t want to die.
That does seem hypocritical, literally.
Most SP’ers can empathize and sympathize with the pain of others, but I think the problem is this: People think that their personal pain and trauma is always more significant than the pain and trauma of others. And that while a person has no hope for their own being, they almost always have hope for others.
Therefore, people think that others should never kill themselves because they should always hold out for that hope (even if they personally have NO hope).
Yes! Well put 🙂
I agree. Just that I wouldn’t say I think my problems are more significant that other people’s, but that my will or my straight is weaker. So I do think others have more hope… or something like that.
But I think you have a point there
Some hostility in these comments. NiDDA, I get what you’re saying. As you said, this is not finger pointing at ANYONE, but it is up to each of us to determine our own level of hypocrisy. I openly admit I am extremely hypocritical when offering optimism because, plain and simple, I am a pessimist. Case in point.
So why do we act optimistic? (Emphasis on “act”) For the same reason we put on fake smiles and say “good morning” when it is anything but. It’s because we don’t want to share our negativity with others.
Still, when someone calls me out for being a hypocrite, or putting on a fake smile, I have the courtesy to agree with them. Face it people, if we really meant all this great advice we shovel out, we would apply it to ourselves. I’m not saying it’s useless. I’m just saying NiDDA has a point, and we should give him/her the benefit of expressing a valid observation.
This is why I don’t suggest suicide or living, I’m neutral and all I’d like to do is suggest help for them and some support or that I feel the same way but really I respect their decision to live or die I just hope its been thought through carefully
This is so insensitive …