How dare i be born. How dare i care about anything. How dare i be born with traits of autism and be socially awkward. How dare i be depressed. How dare i have a life not worth living. How dare i not be narcissistic and sociapathic and ‘charming’. How dare i not be attractive. How dare i keep to myself. How dare i be poor. How dare i not be confident and charismatic. How dare i be miserable in one of the most mentally challenging times in human history. How dare i be boring or nice. How dare i not have edge. How dare i not have talent. How dare i not be perfect or exceptional. How dare i not stand out or fit in How dare i not be able to connect with human beings in any meaningful way. How dare i breathe. How dare i want connection or love on any level. How dare i be angry. How dare i be fat. How dare i exist. …
I had 2 ideas for posts and im combining them as i have over posted enough tonight. My 2nd part is simply an observation. Reincarnation is implausible. Not necessarily impossible but unlikely. This isnt to shit on anyone’s belief. This is simply an observation. The reason i say that is because right now this are more humans than ever before. This means some of these lives must be brand new. If they arent it must mean multiple people share the same past lives. Think about it if a person died in 2000bc and reincarnated in 1999bc The new life would eventually die and reincarnate itself. If the 2000bc(lets call it the parent life) reincarnates again and the 1999bc (child life) also reincarnate now 4 lives would stemed from one. Each individual life would have its own uniqueness but come from 1 original life. However, if reincarnation works another way new lives would have to either be created or infinitely available therefore rendering the concept of reincarnation pointless. Keep in mimd implausible and impossible are 2 different things. Im done posting for the night time to wait for an opportunity to end it try, fail and deal with reality.
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I don’t believe in reincarnation myself, but I’ve heard people give their own explanations for the math problem. The two that I’ve heard so far are:
– Humans don’t just reincarnate into other humans, but also into animals and insects (and vise versa). Still doesn’t really explain the fact that the earth wasn’t always teeming with life, but whatever.
– Reincarnation is nonlinear. Theoretically, a person who dies today could be reincarnated as a human living in the 12th century, and a person who died around 1000 BC could be reincarnated as a person living in the year 3000 AD.
Again, I don’t believe in it, but I found those two theories pretty interesting.
I’m incredibly sorry that I don’t really have anything helpful to say about the first half of your post. I can’t refute any of the things that you say about yourself, because I’ve never met you.
Wow, whiskeredfish, you posted FIVE SECONDS before I did, and you offered a similar explanation. 🙂
We are on the same wavelength. 🙂
🙂 Oh wow, wouldja look at that? It seems we are!
Although I don’t personally believe in reincarnation, I think the way reincarnationists would get around the “mathematical implausibility” factor is by saying that not everyone was human in their previous life.
They might say that some people started out as other life forms (like ants and sparrows and ferrets and aardvarks), and after a few of those kinds of life-experiences they got to “graduate” on to being a human being.
If that theory is correct, then mathematically we must have fewer of those other life forms available today…
And, maybe that accounts for species that have gone extinct.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_extinct_animals
Not saying I believe it, just saying maybe they might explain it that way.
I thought about the animals, insects, etc thing but as whiskered mentioned the earth hasnt always had life. Additionally its rather presumptious to believe humans are the end all be all and end of the graduation chain. There is a post on this site now about wanting to be a dog (ive also wanted to be a bird) Humans are the most destructive and cruel species of all. Also a non linear reincarnation doesn’t explain what happens with the 2nd life and its incarnation. Unless the lives incarnate into themselves creating a grandfather paradox sort of issue.
It’s true, earth hasn’t always had life.
I guess they could get around that by saying that life still existed *somewhere* in the universe, and that reincarnations aren’t limited within the confines of just one planet.
For that extension theory to work, you’d still have to believe that life has always existed *somewhere*.
I don’t think you understand what I was saying about the nonlinear theory. Either that, or I’m just not understanding you. What I’m saying is that in the theory, there are a set number of souls that jump around randomly on the human timeline. The one soul is never in two bodies at once, but they could theoretically be very close together. There is no “waiting” that the soul does between time periods, it just moves freely and instantly to wherever it wants/needs to go. And all the souls are moving in different directions from one another. One’s lifetime progression could be:
2201 AD—Chinese woman—you live for 103 years
2000 BC—Ancient Assyrian boy—you live for 2 months
2002 BC—Ancient Egyptian girl—this time, you live for 30 years
104 AD—Roman man—you live for 62 years
1987 AD—Canadian woman—you live for 28 years
3034 AD—North Sentinel Island girl—you live for 45 years
1200 AD—French peasant boy—you live for 14 years
2003 AD—South African man—you live for 89 years
Etc etc etc until the end of your cycle.
The nonlinear explanation, as I interpreted it, presupposes that the end number of humans—from the birth of the species to our extinction—evens out. I don’t know how else to explain it, really. It made sense the way this one girl explained it to me. But at the end of the day, it’s a matter of faith. There will never be proof.
I understand it better now. There still is the soul number thing. The earth population is growing exponentially so where are those souls coming from. I get its a faith thing to an extent i just like the thought experiment of it. Also that avatar gross lol
Yeah, it is interesting to think about, even if we’ll never be able to prove or disprove it one way or the other. I guess the best we can do with afterlife theories (or philosophies, belief systems, and religions in general) is determine whether or not they have internal consistency.
Thanks, haha. I thought the image fit me rather well. The thing in the toilet is a catfish. I hope no one mistakes it for a log of feces. But it does look that way, doesn’t it?
What do you mean by reincarnation? The cells of your body have gone through a very long, very far reaching journey to become what you call you. They’ve lived many different you’s along the way, and here is this you. Scattered parts assemble from countless paths. If you eat a fish, where does the fish go? When grizzly bears eat salmon that swam upstream for miles from the open ocean, the ******** in their bodies winds up in the roots of redwoods, which share nutrients with fungal networks under the soil. Maybe a hippy picks a mushroom from the forest and makes an organic salad. So to cut to the chase, are hippies fish?
The non-linear concept of time is pretty cool.
As humans we measure the sequence of occurring events in relation to our earth-bound perspective of the movements of celestial bodies.
Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years are all measured based on our understanding of how the Earth moves in relationship to the Sun. “Time” is very much a man-made construct that allows us to measure the forward progression of events in a linear sort of way. (We can also “count backwards” on the time-line to determine when past events occurred and assign fixed or approximate dates to those events).
But what if time is only linear from our perspective as humans while we’re alive and living on Earth?
If traveling at the speed of light, would you continue to age? Would you be able to go backwards or forward? Traveling at the speed of light, could you visit civilizations that no longer exist, or visit a future which hasn’t yet materialized?