I wonder a lot about life and death and suicide. I wonder how many more people in society would commit suicide if it was easier to accomplish? I wonder about that because apparently there are a lot of people who attempt it but fail.
I wonder how many more people would commit suicide if it was more socially acceptable to do so? I wonder about the current suicide statistics and wonder if they are accurate? I wonder about that one because I personally believe a lot of so called accidents and unexplained dearths are actually suicides.
I wonder if genetics has anything to do with suicide? I wonder about that one because I have seen some situations where suicide runs in certain family lines and I have even heard some people say. Suicide is just in my genes.
I wonder if suicide really is a way out of misery?… or if there is possible a consequence for doing it after this life?
I wonder if death is really the end of us… or if we really do enter into some kind of afterlife.
I wonder if we will be able to remember our lives after this life… or if we just blank out of existence.
I wonder why so many societies have to be so much against assisted suicide… when to me it seems like its a service that many people need?
I just wonder about these things. For the last 15 years of my life the subject of suicide has really fascinated me.
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I think we are all slightly scared of the unknown. No one knows what happens. The whole idea of Heaven and Hell is simply to put our minds at ease. Could it really be just made up? That’s what scares me atleast.
The genetics thing seems extremely likely. I have a long line of Depression in my family, almost everyone has it on both sides, and most of the people on my dad’s side of my family have already committed suicide. There’s no way of avoiding it.
Yeah there is a part of me that is scared of the unknown. that is why I come to this site partially anyway. > because part of me dislikes this life and wants it to end… but the other part of me is scared that the afterlife might be even worse then this. So its a battle for me to try and stay alive and live this life and make the best out of things and try to go on as long as I can. This site surely helps me deal with suicidal thoughts.
I am sorry to hear that there is so much depression and suicide in your family. Wow.
Well I hope that things get better for you. I hope that good times come to you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this subject
That’s an interesting post. I can tell you that many people think about suicide but don’t attempt it. They think it’s not the right thing to do or don’t want to leave their loved ones. Don’t know if genetics have something to do with suicide but many mental conditions do. Depression, anxiety etc pass from generation to generation. Is there an after life? Don’t know….is that a way out of misery? Don’t know that either…..should assisted suicide be legal in all societies? In my opinion only on people with terminal diseases.
If suicide was an easy thing to do many more people would at least committed it. Maybe even I wouldn’t be here now.
thanks Gkks for adding to the post. You have some good insight there.
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I believe everyone who discovers what life really is considers suicide. It’s part of everyone’s personal development consider death but it isn’t mentioned because suicide is a taboo issue that questions the status quo.
I believe the intense desire to suicide is also genetic and in my family it’s evident in both sides it is. But only some are affected.
I believe assisted suicide is a way to treat suicide not as a taboo but as part of life. I’am for assisted suicide in any case.
About afterlife…I do not believe on that and I think life till death is hard enough. I don’t need sth after death to comfort me. Think I will have to live a life after this one makes me tired!
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Anyway…it’s healthy and wise think about life death and suicide how many times you need.
And yes…much more people would kill themselves if the System does not impose itself through TV, internet, money, religion, politics, etc.
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Hey Playdead4fun
Yeah I agree that most people in their lives considers suicide. I mean > life can be really hard and suicide is just the ultimate way out. Unhappy people = people who consider suicide. But you are right society has made suicide a taboo.. so its a touchy subject with a lot of people
I believe there is evidence that suicide can be genetic… and it also probably can be a learnt behavior as well.
I do believe in an afterlife… but I am not positive about it..and I cant prove it either. but I do believe that our soul or spirit lives on after death in some state. I wonder if suicide has anything to do with the state we will be in
thanks for contributing to the post
this is my way of thinking about it: Taxation is theft. The government taxes you. It wants to keep you alive in order to tax you. The government must have at least some ways of affecting the publics views of suicide.
Exactly! Life has to go on in order to money flows and the System goes!
Yes that is true. The governments need a certain amount of people working and paying bills and paying taxes in order for governments to function. They need us for money.
that is why they dont want us to kill ourselves.
Like you, I’ve been obsessed with these questions all my life. You want to know my conclusion? Everything is perfect the way it is.
Suicide shouldn’t be easy. Currently it is not. This means it requires a lot of careful thought to cross the barriers that are set in place: moral barriers (“you’ll go to hell”), social barriers (“suicide is for cowards”), legal barriers (“you’re not allowed to buy N–“), philosophical barriers (“whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the whips and scorns of time…”) and last but most powerful, instinctive barriers, that inexplicable force that paralyzes your muscles rather than allowing you to make a simple half inch wiggle of the finger to pull that trigger.
When a person has crossed these barriers, which is no easy task, then maybe they have “earned” their suicide. And I really think that’s a fair system.
What troubles me is the advent of painless, quick, easy methods. These simple methods defeat many of the barriers and reduce suicide to more of a rash decision. I have always felt that suicide should be treated as the most important decision you’ll ever make in your life. If suicide had been any easier than it is, I would’ve been gone years ago. But I can honestly say that I’m glad I never had the guts to finish myself off.
I love to talk statistics because it gives us a bigger picture than we get in our myopic little cave that we fall into when in the throes of suicidal depression. One of the most fascinating articles I’ve read was about a study that covered about 100 years which is the most that history has recorded with reliable accuracy. The study showed that, more or less, suicide percentages have remained constant. There is, has been, and always shall be, a constant baseline percentage of people who off themselves, period. But the interesting thing the study showed is that there are periodic spikes in the global suicide rates when new methods are discovered.
I think it cited the advent of the gas oven in the mid 20th century leading to a bump in people pulling a Sylvia Plath. Oh yeah, there’s also a mild copycat spike in suicides when people read about people like Sylvia Plath. But then, oddly enough, everything settles back down to that baseline percentage.
I think genetics do play a role, the same way they play a role in genetic mental disorders. But a bigger influence, I think, is the environment that kids grow up in. Suicide is contagious, and there have been countless people who have come to this site after the suicide of a loved one or family member, and now they themselves wrestle with the question.
And lastly, but verrry interestingly, I believe there are certain “astrological forces” at play. I’m not talking about stupid Sunday horoscope stuff, but I mean the environment at the time we were born, both earthly and celesitally, play a role in our development. A couple years back I posted a thread that linked to an interesting article on the subject. The article examined several well known suicides (I think they were Kurt Cobain, Robin Williams and a few others), and found that each of their astrological charts had a strong “water influence” (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces) in their charts. Poor Kurt had like 9 planets in the wrong place, so he was an astrological goner from the beginning.
One thing that none of this can answer is WHY? I’ve tried to make some evolutionary sense of suicide for years but still can’t figure it out. Is it a “paring of the herd” whereby the weak die off? No, because quite often it’s the strongest (successful people, soldiers, activists) who commit suicide. Or is suicide truly an exit, a privilege allotted *to* the strongest? No, can’t be that either, because suicide also happens amongst the weak.
One statistic that does make sense (though I don’t like it) is that suicide almost always happens to individuals who are alienated from society, loners, friendless people who have lost their connection with the bulk of humanity. Thus evolution seems to be sending us a clear message: stay with the herd. I don’t like that at all, especially as I learn more every day that the herd is dead wrong.