I probably shouldn’t be posting right now. It rarely helps. I’m just feeling very lost, and I don’t know what else to do.
I wish I could just get on with living a normal life, like most seem to, without constantly analyzing everything. But it just feels wrong. And I don’t know how to let that go.
I’m caught between thinking that life could be great (if only I could figure some things out), and believing that it’s completely hopeless for me. And other times, I suspect that it’s really hopeless for everyone – that no matter how good you may temporarily have it, it’s not worth it. Better if nothing had ever existed.
Or maybe none of it matters. Pain, suffering, happiness, pleasure; it’s all transient, right? There’s no consistent self. We’re just chains of shifting experience. No analysis or judgement required. Just go with the flow, whatever it brings. Not that you can opt out anyway. It’s all equally meaningless.
I wish I knew. Or at least believed. Something consistent enough to build my life (or death) on. To sustain me, moment to moment. But I’m caught between. I’m trying to view the world simultaneously through multiple different filters. I’m trying to perch on the existential fence.
I’m sick of myself. I’m sick of being me. I’m sick of my thoughts. I’m sick of this post.
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@husk: “I wish I knew. Or at least believed. Something consistent enough to build my life (or death) on. To sustain me, moment to moment. But I’m caught between. I’m trying to view the world simultaneously through multiple different filters. I’m trying to perch on the existential fence.”
We are similar in this regard. Dual nature; life being experienced and mis/understood in simultaneous multi-layered and conflicting and equally compelling realities.
You’re kinda freakin’ me out.
What’s your story?
@SweetQuietus: Why would that freak you out?
My story’s not particularly interesting. I’m a bad person, who has the intelligence to recognize that he’s bad, without the moral fortitude to respond to this realization by changing. Or I’m someone who wants to be better, but can’t see a way.
I’m depressed because I sometimes see through the meaning that most pursue in life. Or because I’ve done so much to isolate myself from others that such meaning is now beyond me, and it’s somehow less painful to project that meaninglessness onto life in general than accept that it only applies to me.
Take your pick.
Just fyi, my internet is pretty patchy right now, so expect long delays in replies.
Okay, You’re a guy. I forgot. Not keeping track of much these days.
Freaking me out, why? Because it often seems that other people seem to view life through a more singular perception, and not layers. They seem despondent and confused but not confused as to which lens through which to look a much as “why me?” or “what’s the fix for this?” rather than the “I can’t get my bearings, I feel like I’m on a mind trip” kinda thing.
Could’ve misread you. Wouldn’t be the first time.
Also, I’d live in a room if I could (well, I pretty much do); I have a pre-paid, no credit card (if I buy stuff on line I get a prepaid card for Amazon or the store I want to buy from).
Hmmm, I guess it’s much simpler to function when you can approach things from a single mindset. I suppose with me it comes from having the time to analyse my own guilt. Through that I come to recognize that different parts of me are trying to be very different people, based on different views of the world. I try to find some way to balance these views, so that I can live in an effective, coherent way. But I can’t.
One part tells me ‘You should be dead. What you are shouldn’t exist in the world.’ Another tells me ‘It doesn’t matter, do it again, you’re just following your instincts.’ Yet another says ‘This is not who you really are. You need to find some way to the life you truly want.’ Then there’s ‘All this is meaningless, and it would be better if nothing existed’, and ‘All of this is a delusion, which you need to let go of.’
But I’m guessing with you it comes from a better place.
More like the nature of man/god. what drives our interactions. self/other/society. true nature/learned behavior.
That b.s. about following your gut instinct has led many people astray. The very nature of society demands we subjugate our instincts. That’s what art is for, Husk, and rants posted on anonymous social media platforms.
All interesting subjects, which I was happy to contemplate behind the safe wall of a single mindset, until I couldn’t anymore, and it became more of a ‘pressing issue.’ Or perhaps even contemplating such things from behind a mental shield led to the disintegration of my sense of self. I don’t know.
Sure, we subjugate our instincts to the extent that we can get by in society. But unfortunately some things slip through the cracks – they go unnoticed by others, yet still separate us.
Could you be more vague? I have no idea what you mean. Crack slipping and “pressing issue” in quotes, no less. Hmmm.
Sorry, I appreciate that my evasiveness makes talking somewhat frustrating. Although just to be clear, ‘slipping through the cracks’ wasn’t meant to be innuendo.
Oh my g-d, you’re not right. Never thought that. Still evading, i see, Freudian slip notwithstanding.
Always. If it was something I could talk about (or even think about clearly), then I wouldn’t be here. Some things you just can’t make right.
Well, layers, lemme think. Onions. Peel off one layer at a time.
No, you’re right, there are things you can’t make right. You can’t un-vehicular manslaughter someone; you can’t unbreak a heart, or unburn a bridge.
But you can start where you are, if you want. Only if you want.
I suppose I’m not sure what ‘starting where I am’ means for me at this point. If I had vehicular man-slaughtered someone, then I guess it would be turning myself in to the authorities.
I don’t think what I’ve done has hurt anyone that badly. I’m not sure whether it’s had any real world impact at all. But at the same time it feels far worse in many ways.
HUSK! That’s progress, man! You didn’t kill someone with your vehicle by accident! See? You can DO This!! You CAN do this!
Good for you!
Now what else have you NOT DONE???????
I don’t know, it’ll sound nuts, but I kind of wish it was something like that. While I would still have the guilt of it, at least I’d know it was an accident. An error, rather than something fundamentally wrong with my motives. It being clear cut might make it easier to deal with. Not that I’d want to have that effect on someone, but it might be easier.
I couldn’t live with it. No way.
I still think about the squirrel I ran over accidentally, over 20 yrs ago.
Not saying you should do it here, but confession is good for the soul. Why? because that big thing that’s getting in the way of your living, may not seem so big when you tell someone about it, say a counselor or a bartender.
Welp, like I said, from many angles it’s worse, guilt wise. So that feeling’s definitely a part of the mix.
I’ve told one person irl – a therapist. He was a specialist in related issues. He was respectful & non-judgmental, but he was never able to give me a sense that what I’d done wasn’t terrible. I told him the what, but I never really got into the why. Admitting not only that I’d done something awful, but that I had no excuse other than being a selfish, was too much.
I’ve told a few people online, and they’ve all tried to be helpful, but again, it’s never seemed any less of a huge thing, and I’ve never got any sense of how to live with it.
At the same time, a significant part of my mind does believe that it’s no big deal, and resents the idea that I should feel guilty. It’s just not strong enough to convince myself long term.
Only you can help yourself, then. If your therapist specialized in whatever the issue is, perhaps there’s an online community that you can connect with.
Husk, i’m no angel, I have no sage answers for you, but I do wish you well.
That g-d thing is something Jewish people do because writing His name might possibly offend Him. I’ve always found that interesting. Just spelling out G O D might disrespect him?
Funny thing about that, Mo is that G o d isn’t his name, so how can it offend? In Judaism, you’re not allowed to write the yud-heh-vov-heh at all. Ever. If you do, you have to bury it. Of course this was pointed out to me by a “Christian” (in quotes because he was one of the most hateful, toxic people I have ever met).
If it makes you feel better, here it is: GOD. YHVH. Great, now I’m cursed. Thanks, Mo.
Sorry. I never joined this site with the intention of damning anyone to eternal hell-fire. (That’s Gods job).
Ah, well, the road to hell, as they say.
BTW, I’m channeling your inner lesbian, listening to the Indigo Girls and shopping for a Forester.
Nevermind. They were singing about reincarnation and paying for mistakes made in a past life. Had to turn them off. Sorry, Mo, I know you’re disappointed.
I have a Subaru, so Ive already channeled my inner lesbian. She and I get along just fine.
Me and my Les-baru are one.
Did you name her, Morris?
The absurdity of life.
Maybe dreams are more real than the waking reality of life.
Maybe we’re more awake while asleep than we ever are while living.
Soup never burns your mouth in dreams. So, probably not. 😉
Maybe your mouth never got burnt.
Maybe you just convinced yourself into believing it happened.
I’ve had some wonderful dreams I’d like to have lived in.
Let’s throw away pragmatism and embrace romantic idealism. No, ROMANTIC IDEALISM in all caps! We’ll build miraculous, outrageously beautiful lives!
Oh, right. There it is. My sassy brain talking back. . . .
(I thought you were kicking out of here)
I’ve had some wonderful dreams I’d like to have lived in.
Let’s throw away pragmatism and embrace romantic idealism. No, ROMANTIC IDEALISM in all caps! We’ll build miraculous, outrageously beautiful lives!
Oh, right. There it is. My sassy brain talking back. . . .
(I thought you were kicking out of here)
How things are versus how we wish they were are two different animals.
Reality and wishful thinking ain’t the same.
Really? I’d never noticed that before. I thought, “as a man thinketh.”
Perhaps if I were a man, then, thinking i were a bird. . . .
Oh no, what if I am a bird, thinking I am a Quietus?