You could’ve countered with “maybe the one’s left behind are the one’s who are being selfish”.
She’s right though. The one’s who care and have to keep living will be haunted after your passing.
Selfishness goes both ways. Selfish to hurt those left behind, selfish to ask one to continue suffering so as to avoid hurting others. It’s interesting I’ve never heard both sides of the selfish issue discussed, only the one your kids and most of the world repeats, but then again I’m as selfish as they come and will usually pick the option that suits me best.
Yep. Who *doesn’t* want a beneficial outcome?
Happy Endings are a best case scenario for all, even when each side has a different version of what that entails.
Huh….. dang, thanks for the insight…
But i agree, to a degree we’re all selfish, and i guess in that vien, everyone has a good point.
I just wish she remembered I got picked up on a psych eval last year after someone i foolishly trusted called the authorities on me while i was down 🙁
I think “suicide is selfish” comes from a perspective where the person thinks that this whole life is suffering and everyone is suffering, why would you have the right to just get out of this and leave us here.
Exactly. I accept that suicide is selfish. I’m still planning to do it. But I’m realistic enough to know that leaving a dead body for others to clean up physically and emotionally is pretty damn selfish. Whether you care is a different matter. Anyone who is REALLY planning suicide needs to swallow that simple point. That’s why it doesn’t bother me when people say suicide is selfish because I agree with them instead of getting all worked up.
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You could’ve countered with “maybe the one’s left behind are the one’s who are being selfish”.
She’s right though. The one’s who care and have to keep living will be haunted after your passing.
Selfishness goes both ways. Selfish to hurt those left behind, selfish to ask one to continue suffering so as to avoid hurting others. It’s interesting I’ve never heard both sides of the selfish issue discussed, only the one your kids and most of the world repeats, but then again I’m as selfish as they come and will usually pick the option that suits me best.
You’re right, it’s selfish on both parties parts.
I guess this just means that everyone is selfish, everyone wants an outcome that benefits them.
Pretty much, right?
Yep. Who *doesn’t* want a beneficial outcome?
Happy Endings are a best case scenario for all, even when each side has a different version of what that entails.
Huh….. dang, thanks for the insight…
But i agree, to a degree we’re all selfish, and i guess in that vien, everyone has a good point.
I just wish she remembered I got picked up on a psych eval last year after someone i foolishly trusted called the authorities on me while i was down 🙁
That’s got to be tough to deal with. I don’t have kids, and can’t imagine the impact of hearing it from your child.
People pass their pain onto one another all the time.
I think “suicide is selfish” comes from a perspective where the person thinks that this whole life is suffering and everyone is suffering, why would you have the right to just get out of this and leave us here.
Exactly. I accept that suicide is selfish. I’m still planning to do it. But I’m realistic enough to know that leaving a dead body for others to clean up physically and emotionally is pretty damn selfish. Whether you care is a different matter. Anyone who is REALLY planning suicide needs to swallow that simple point. That’s why it doesn’t bother me when people say suicide is selfish because I agree with them instead of getting all worked up.