Not fellow posters, but the idiots who go around commenting on their friends threads with inane drivel, completely ignoring all the posts by people who could actually use encouragement. Anyways I’m in a bad mood so I’m lashing out. This place is poison sometimes though, God knows why I bother to stay around.
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I’m one of those idiots. my excuse is that I’m not here to encourage others or do any humanitarian work. I’m knee deep in my own shit and can’t do a thing for others tbh.
You know what? I’m sitting here thinking “don’t say anything, let it slide” But your creative thread title ‘you guys really suck’ well, it makes me want to respond.
1. Who in the actual fuck do you do you think you are to say ‘idiots who go around commenting on their friends threads with inane drivel’?
What may seem like ‘inane drivel’ to you, may be the conversation witch stops them from blowing their fucking head off that day. ‘on their friends threads’ – yes, THEIR friends threads, not your threads.
2. Can you help everyone on here? Can you relate to someone on here who is having an existential crisis in the same way as a kid who is talking about being abused?
We all don’t have the capacity to relate to everyone on here, that’s why some posts get 0 comments i guess.
3. This site has no direct message support, so these threads that people comment on, may be the only way to speak their ‘inane drivel’ to each other. Some people do not want to give up their email or other contact info off site, so this place is the only one way they have to talk to each other.
Anyways im in a bad mood as well, so i’m lashing out.
Ps. Hi Fally, I hope your doing good today – just don’t respond back mate, it will probably look like ‘inane drivel’
Before I ask this, I’m just making clear that this isn’t an attack on you, but an honest question. What’s stopping you from commenting and providing encouragement? If you reach an answer, it may provide the reason to why some posts may take longer than maybe they should to get comments. Remember, we all share the one similarity of being depressed/suicidal, but it doesn’t mean that every post and comment on here should revolve around that.
You can’t pour from an empty glass, rayon.
Of course this post will draw ire from the popular crowd, but as a lurker I have to weigh in. This is not facebook, people have to remain conscious of that. Think of how you feel when you post on Facebook and it’s ignored, and then you see some attention whore post her cleavage and get 100 likes. That’s facebook and people know it’s for stupid superficial shit like that. But this is where people come to die, to attempt a desperate plea for help, to reach out. And it’s beyond a fucking insult when some stupid Facebook-type thread has 100 comments while someone’s desperate suicide note gets 0. Yeah so sure, you popular kids can go ahead and attack me for not posting help but I have my reasons for not getting involved which I won’t get into. At least I don’t add to the implicit shaming of people by posting a picture of my cleavage 2 minutes after a kid posts his suicide note with 0 comments. Don’t you people have Facebook where you can friend each other and carry on your banter? Can’t you email each other offline instead of parading yourselves in front of people who have guns to their heads? Wake up and remember where you are is all I’m saying. Be as silly and off topic as you want but IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
In the right place, Star? What’s the right place? Facebook? Can you see what you’re writing? Maybe your own pain blinded you too but the ‘popular kids’ that you hate here so much – we’re also suicidal, we also have shit we have to deal with and we also feel pain that we’re trying to distract ourselves from. Our posts may not have words of death and pain in them but those that got to know each other still know it. I don’t mean in as an insult in any way. I just wanted to see if you can understand. Facebook and other social media is for the world ‘outside’ where we need to lie and pretend, where people just don’t get it. Here we have a simple mutual understanding od emotions and thoughts. I sense that your own pain blinds you to our own, just like ours blind us to yours. But you really can’t pour from an empty glass. How can you encourage and help others if you feel too broken, too miserable yourself? You know yourself how thoughts and emptiness can haunt you every waking second. We’re trying to distract ourselves, to talk and forget and if our talking annoys you – just ignore us. SP is the only place we can throw most of our masks off and just let ourselves feel. What’s so wrong in that?
“popular kids”? I’m sorry but it cracked me up. it’s usually just 2 or 3 people talking to one another.
plus, you are the one who seems to be delusional about what this place really is. it is not a suicide hotline. the Internet is not the right place to look for someone to save your life. and whoever posts their suicidal note under such impression is just as delusional as you are.
and honestly I can be a better help to those who want to discuss suicide methods than to the ones who want to see some kind of a light at the end of the tunnel. I don’t see such a light and I’m not here to pretend that I do.
Starfallin77
Are you really making a comparison of someone posting their tits on facebook for ‘likes’ and someone who makes a post that resonates with many people on here?
Wow.
These same people, i guarantee you, you will still find on other threads trying their fucking hardest to help other people.
‘parading yourselves in front of people’ what the fuck? You actually believe that? I feel like fucking shit sometimes, do you think i would go into someone elses thread and say ‘you guys are bang out of order for feeling a little less suicidal today?
Have you seen how many people come on here and do ‘hit and run’ posts?
Not saying that’s the case with everyone, but sometimes you see a certain poster who never responds back at all. After offering support so many times and there is not even 1 response back (every single time) how long before you see that name and think *sigh* i’m just wasting my time even trying to get through.
You are using the term ‘popular kids’ as if it is a crime to talk with several like minded members.
Do you honestly believe that people come here on a bloody suicide site of all places just to be popular?
Many a discussion had been had about this same topic here, through various forms.of question/statements, and everyone’s opinions on it are different.
The problem is that it’s difficult to find a balance between the two sometimes. For some people, posting seemingly random pictures that they took or drew for example, which can be seen as “superficial, is what is helping them get through their day.
Everyone knows exactly where they are. It’s a suicide site. Suicide is no joke. However, focusing on only the serious, all the time, is in and of itself, just as depressing. It can equate to going to a job you hate, everyday, engilfed in the shitty monotony of the job, just to have to do it again the next day.
Replying to everyone’s posts is extremely difficult. Replying with something beneficial and helpful is even harder, especially when you’ve never experienced what that person has. A point was made that this is not a support group. Noone here is a certified doctor, therapist, etc (and even if someone here was and somehow prove it, you should still see your local doctor/therapist/etc. for any issues), and not everyone is here for, or should be obligated to “help” others on the site. People try to help others here because they care, because they want to, but that doesn’t mean that the people who seemingly don’t are heartless… Lots of people are lurkers, and just read posts, usually one’s that they can relate to. They are, as fally said, “knee deep in their own shit”.
So before you post, just remember,
1. Everyone knows where the are, and to be honest, it’s their own choice how they use the platform, trolling(unfortnately) or otherwise.
2. Noone here is a certified doctor or therapist, at least, and noone here is obligated to help anyone else.
3. Posts like this suck because you’re singling out a lot of people who you may or may not realize is reading your posts.
4. Unless you’ve been through something similar, it’s difficult to formulate a proper response to truly help someone.
As predicted, I’m attacked by the popular kids. I love being right. My phrase “popular kids” was facetious and intended to apply to those who dominate this website by a ratio greater than 50:1 of people actually talking about suicide and reaching out for help. Read the fucking rules: off topic material is not welcome. I’m not going to report anyone because this isn’t my site and I don’t ever plan to return (yeah celebrate, he popular kids, you may resume telling fart jokes). Forgive me for thinking this was a rare corner of the internet where people took suicide seriously, at least serious enough not to blatantly ignore the real posts in favor of childish drivel. There’s nothing wrong with childish drivel IN THE RIGHT PLACE. Facebook, email, reddit, please take your exclusive parties and inside jokes where they belong and leave this “suicide project” to discussions and support pertaining to “suicide”. It’s in the fucking FAQ in case none of you cared to respect the site creator’s intent.
what do you think will happen to us “popular kids” if we act on our suicidal thoughts?
well, the answer is nothing. our friends here whom we party hard with, are going to say oh, man that sucks, what a shame, and that’s it. we are forgotten the next day and everyone will back to their routine. point being; no one cares that much. believe it or not. we are just random people on the net. for most of us, even our family and relatives won’t care let alone online friends.
and since you ignored every point made here and just paraphrased what you had previously said, I’m going to have to repeat your answer again; no one is going to save you on the Internet. you just share what is in your mind and others participate if they think they have anything to say. there is no obligation and as other posters pointed out, there are many occasions that you just don’t know what to say even if you care because we are also suicidal, if we could help anyone, we would’ve started from ourselves.
from the freakin’ FAQ that you keep bringing up:
Can I post on any topic here?
Umm, generally no. This is a suicide support site, and a place to share your stories of suicide despair and hope. We’d prefer posts stick to things like that.
as you can READ, this is about the topics and not the comments, plus that it is said that such topics are “preferred”, which is exactly what’s happening now. the majority of topics are dealing with subjects that are preferred by whoever wrote that FAQ.
so yea, go on and repeat yourself as much as you want and pretend that you won this conversation by ignoring all the points mentioned here since “you love being right”.
No this isnt a hotline. But how much can those do? Encourage you to be commited if your losing it. SP is a place where a lot of folks who fall through the cracks come. No, we dont have the capabilities to relate to everyone. Some people still silently delete their posts because no one responds, or just leave off entirely. mindlessgamer and Potato have decent points when it comes to commenting. I think theres been a decent comment range lately, though. What is supposed to be the right place? The internet, here particularly is a decent resource with a higher chance of finding likeminded. Words can help, other perspectives can give pause. people have posted with one intent and held off, or at least momentarily felt reprieve. No its not a place to be saved, but people can understand, something far too often lacking offscreen. end 2 cents
By the way, not that something but… Well, a new person coming now to SP, already suicidal and on the edge, suddenly seeing the post with a happy ‘You guys really suck’ title… Yeah, I’m sure it would help them a lot.
I’ve admitted before that when cliques start to bother me, it’s time to leave. Simply ignore it if you don’t like it.
These people you speak of actually help others here by giving advice or just simply relating. So they do actually help. Ignore the long threads if it bothers you so much.
Remember, we’re all on the same team. We’re all fighting battles.
Very Very Classy !
Cleavage? Where???
OK…getting slightly more serious…Starfallin: I see where you ‘re coming from, and maybe it’s not fair…but it happens. This is not one of the resources below, where you will have your call/chat answered. We all do the best we can with the resources and energy we have available. If I had the time and energy I’d slip into my FarahLajeenNourAlDeen costume and be here 24/7 🙂 But I can’t.
I think you said you were unable to participate in posting. That’s fine, but if you’re worried about saying the wrong thing, well, don’t.
One more thing: I was really pissed last week and posted. I think there were over 100 responses. There were a lot of side threads & general silliness. But that was people blowing off steam. Healthy. I believe more people than I were helped by that post.
I really hope you reconsider.
We all suck, if you stop to think about it. Everybody’s got their thing. Either it’s long-winded, well composed and thoughtful postings about meaningful substance, or it’s ranting, or it’s shooting the shit with the other transients.
Personally, I like non-personal, nebulous and abstract musings about non-issues that never touch on my life or reveal much about me as a person. What’s your thing?
I agree with this post. Nobody comments to those who really need it. F*ck that. Instead all the comments go to attention wh*res. This makes me angry
If you want people to read your post, here are a few pointers:
1) Use PARAGRAPHS. A wall of text is just off-putting, regardless of whether its about the gun you have to your head and the noose around your neck and the dagger potruding from your wrist.
2) Ask a question. Some people have evidently discovered this hack, because they will ask the community literally anything that pops into their head. So much for Google.
3) Use the Read More tag to make your post take up less space on the timeline. And create a cliffhanger by inserting it in a sentence like so: “I had a dreadful day today. Imagine my horror at coming to school and realising[…READ MORE]” I shamelessly use this.
4) A picture allegedly makes it more likely that someone will notice your Facebook post, so maybe it works here?
This is all to do with form, not content. You can be at your wits’ end with very serious points to make and still the above advice will make it come across better than if you just post a wall of text.
we dance around the fire of death, where it is warm, neither death nor help can touch us there.
Thats really poetic.
You should be a writer