I want you thoughts on why….
Why are the majority of the users on this website male’s?
Why do we have pink ribbons for breast cancer and nothing for prostate cancer?
Why campaigns to stop violence against women but not men?
What is it about society these days that is causing so many young men to kill themselves these days?
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I think one factor is society is stuffed. Most of us are drones that get programmed for work until we drop dead. If you start to question the dominant paradigm you are destined for unhappiness. Better to go about your day like a zombie and self-medicate.
Maybe men don’t have good support networks where they can safely express their true feelings? In most societies it’s not considered a masculine trait to show vulnerability. I find that even for women this is becoming more prevalent. We are all supposed to smile and be happy and love our lot.
Only my opinion. I think it’s a very complex issue.
I think you nailed it there. Men are expected to show no signs of weakness. A woman with no friends will essentially have men approach her and make conversation so they generally always have someone to talk to. If a man has no friends he’s screwed. Chances are nobody’s going to talk to him, and if they do and he opens up they think he’s gay or insane. Thanks society.
I don’t know if it’s necessarily easier for women tbh. Solo women can be preyed upon by some very unsavoury characters. It’s happened to me over and over.
I think it can be difficult for both men and women when they have no-one to open up to in an honest way. Sometimes I think it’s a better option to not rely on other people too much for moral support (in my case). I’d rather try and sort out my own fixes.
I think there should be a brown ribbon for colon cancer. But seriously, it’s because of identity politics. Any attempt to support one side over the other is within that domain, and that domain is ridiculous.
why bother trying to live up to society’s b-s expectations? we’re human. it’s like we’re being taught to be ashamed to be human. “show no feelings. act this way. talk this way. look this way.” it’s all bullsh**.
Pretty much. We are all expected to be good little carbon copy drones for the machine.
“Society” is a work in progress; as the majority of people change, so will society as people are what makes a society. The more people realizes how BS their shallow standards are, the closer to evolving from our current sh**ty state.
Why are the majority of the users on this website male’s?
Where did you get your information? Personally, I notice more females here.
Why do we have pink ribbons for breast cancer and nothing for prostate cancer?
Because someone cared about stopping breast cancer enough to start the pink ribbon movement. If you or anyone care as much about testicular cancer, there’s no one stopping you from starting your own movement.
Why campaigns to stop violence against women but not men?
Same answer as above. But probably the underlying reason is that males are responsible for 70% of violent crimes against women. While women are responsible for only 40% of violent crimes against men. Simple math.
What is it about society these days that is causing so many young men to kill themselves these days?
It has been published in many studies over the years, women are more likely to attempt suicide, but men are more likely to succeed. This is because women generally attempt overdoses (low success rate) while men use firearms (high success rate).
In summary, everything makes sense once you research the sociobiology of crime and suicide. There’s no conspiracy “women vs men” if that’s what you were thinking. Bottom line: biologically men are more violent and resort to more violent measures. Deeper studies have been made blaming testosterone, so again it’s all biological, no conspiracy theories.
Don’t start down the path of biological generalizations. Down that path lies very bad things. The next thing you know, the women will get all obstinate and start buying guns just to spite the researchers.
Haha and men will start being sensitive and nurturing to spite the stereotype. Joking aside, the biological generalizations are just a possible explanation. But the fact remains that men prefer guns to kill themselves while women prefer pills, by huge majorities. So there has to be some natural explanation why men gravitate toward violent means while women prefer to slip away peacefully. And unlike things which you could say were conditioned in school (football vs home ec), suicide was never taught anywhere so people’s chosen means are a pretty good reflection of their true (biological/genetic) nature.
There is no natural explanation for it. There is an entrenched cultural explanation for it. There is this prevalent idea that women are docile and men are fierce masculine creatures that obviously relish blood sports and conflict. Women take a passive role while men fight the wars. This is absurd and biologically silly. We’re all women in the womb. We have the same genes, and the same hormones drive us the same way. But we have this stupid culture that’s built on past stupid cultures, and human beings really love traditions, even when they’re meaningless and stupid.
Exactly. When one holds on too tightly to old ways, they will never grow but instead deteriorate.
I have heard that men are very concerned about the appearance of competence. Using a low success rate approach to death therefore might seem repugnant to men.
I’ll tell you the reason. One of the reasons men like me have higher rates of suicide is because society now has become so dysfunctional that it tells us acting like a man is bad.
If someone pushes you around, decide that you have had enough amd fight back, then you are bad.
If you confront someone about their behavior, you are bad.
If you are physically active in school, run around as a child and act like most male children do, you are bad.
If you get into a conflict and get physical, you are bad.
Simply put, you are punished for being male and acting like a male. You can’t do anything because the state now steps in every time you do something and you can’t even defend yourself from whatever it is you that is bothering you. Males also get no support and are expected to just suck it up, lest you appear as a “whiner”. And we wonder why men now have higher rates of mental illnesses bothering them and kill themselves at unprecedented rates. It seems society has become less honor bound and punishes men for acting like men in this world.
Why does a man act like that and not any other way? Are diplomats and peace-makers not also men? This anti-modern nonsense gets under my skin. Mainly because the argument presupposes that the corollary position (the wimpy, passive, servile man with his head down) is the binary alternative and there can be no nuance. Any other position is therefore weak and bad, which is just as ludicrous as all this hypermasculine nonsense. People should be able to live how they damn well please, and they can. They might encounter some social static for certain choices, but that’s the price you pay for living in a society full of people who may or may not agree with you.
So to sum up, I think you should go outside, find the nearest mime, and punch him in the face. You might feel better. Or you might not. I don’t know. But you’re free to do it if you wish.
I guess if the over high suicide rates of males have nothing to do with them being male I suppose being raped, since both males and females can be raped but most rape victims are women but that probably has nothing to do with there gender. Right guys? Wouldn’t want gender generalize,
I would have to much fun replying to some of these snarky comments, pass.
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Yeah agree with one of the comments above and another too… certainly men are not supposed to appear as weak, or they will be seen as a ‘*****’. Theres also the… no matter what a man does, its wrong, or not good enough. Domestic violence campaigns seem to completely ignore men as far as I know. Police are biased towards men in domestic violence cases, so, if the woman is the perpetrator, and the male is the victim, the male still gets treated like the perpetrator and is put away. When male victims are raped, people think they are making it up or laugh at them or tell them that they are lucky and should be grateful. If a male gets divorced the woman can pretty much take everything including the children. Males are constantly seen as creeps, women are brainwashed to believe that all men are predators and only want one thing, and that women should always be ‘extra careful’ around men. If a man goes to a playground, people will think he’s a pedo. If a woman goes to a playground, nobody will think shes a pedo. (female pedos exist too, newsflash). huh, thats all that comes to mind for now.
certainly men are not supposed to appear as weak, or they will be seen as a ‘ p – u – s – s – y’. the word got filtered…
That’s true. Those are generalizations that result in unjust treatment of a whole swath of the population. If only rich people would quit trying to distract us poor peasants by pitting us against each other, we could maybe get to the business of making the world a little better than it is.
Agreed. Socially favoring one gender over the other is sexist and just creates more problems. These generalizations are so outdated because I’ve heard plenty of stories of female molesters, abusers, and killers; it’s because society underestimates women, thinking that women are incompetent and weak and are fragile creatures to be protected. Guess who made that generalization? Ancient men who viewed women as personal properties and not as equals. Men get punished because “properties” can’t do any wrong because they’re weak and stupid. This is men being sexist against men while being sexist against women, ironic isn’t it. That’s why gender equality should go both ways. Even if Men are more prone to crime, that doesn’t mean male victims don’t exist. If they keep criminalizing male victims, they’re potentially pushing them towards that path and that’s how new generations of sexists are made. Speak and bring awareness so things can finally change.
I went to the zoo with a friend and at one point we passed a father scolding his daughter for crying. “Fine, you want to act like a little girl? We’ll treat you like one. No more four wheeler, no more video games..” gender stereotypes arent a onesided issue. Your second point also isnt just directed at men, And the rape comment is Definitely applicable across the board. No argument with the divorce or domestic violence, tho, however jack it is. If i see a male who can easily pin me down, yeah im going to usually avoid him on principle, past usually beats out the idea of goodwill. When a dude comes up and sits on the bench next to mine at the park and after a minute of small talk asks if i want to make some money, i *will* think he’s a creep. Yet ive hitched rides from men to no ill effect. Any adult who goes to a playground alone to watch children is a bit suspicious, though there can be an innocent reason.
It’s quite tricky when you consider the biology. Mentally, both genders are capable of criminal offenses but if you compare which have more natural strength (minus martial arts and training), men are more flag raising against women when perceiving a potentially dangerous scenario. Take for example the domestic violence scenario; the husband/bf is physically abused by the wife/gf and he can’t fight back/defend in fear of the law being against him or just because he’s against violence against women. Both him and the law are sexist. Even if a man is or looks capable of overwhelming a woman when in physical conflict, the law should never make discriminating assumptions or take any of their words for facts. We have lie detectors, why aren’t they using it? It’s like always assuming that a monkey can’t hurt a lion so therefore the lion is always guilty. Even if the lion is physically stronger, the monkey can still kill it in numbers or in it’s sleep.. who knows?
Still, if a monkey sees a lion coming towards it, the monkey will be on guard but if it’s the other way around.. the lion isn’t worried because it’s physically stronger. Even if the world does become more lawfully equal, that kind of discrimination by women won’t change because biology made men physically stronger and women aware for self defense. Best for the guy to just try his best to prove he’s not hostile.
Statistically, women attempt suicide more often than men but they usually fail.
Men attempt less often but have a higher success rate because they employ more lethal m*ethods. (Don’t take my word for it, look it up yourself).
The reason why more men than women die from suicide is because men do what’s necessary to get the job done. (Again, read the statistics regarding methodology).
I don’t know if this is scientifically proven or anything but I think that the level of pain also dictates how much you want to succeed. IMO because men often have no support, they remain in greater pain compared to women who more often can express their pain and get some comfort for it therefore I think men want to succeed while women’s method is subconsciously based on hope so they fail more often. That and also because I think men are more logical while women are more emotional when choosing their methods, can’t really make the best choice when you’re in a hurry to end yourself because your dark emotions are clouding your logic. FYI the keyword “more” because it could be the opposite, just that what’s generalized is more common IMO.
Isn’t it then, the art of dying, the same as the art of living.
But then again, what would you really know about it … between the bliss.
Hiya Bisban; You’re right, what the hell do I know about anything? Nothing, except for statistics, experience and observation.
“Isn’t it then, the art of dying, the same as the art of living.”
– Wise words from Bisban.
You either fear life enough to end it or fear death enough to stay alive. Death is short, Life is long. It hurts to stay and it hurts to go, the difference is life has possibilities when death has none.
Easy. It can be described in one word:
EMASCULATION
One of the worst hells there is to endure on Earth. Second only to physical pain like torture, getting eaten alive by piranhas, etc.