I wish self harm wasn’t forbidden in my religion.
Sometimes I feel like everything would be a lot better if I could just carve myself up once in a while, y’know?
I mean, I beat and scald myself sometimes, but that’s only because it doesn’t leave any marks, so I figure it’s not technically wrong (or at least not as bad). But that’s not enough for me anymore. I really wish I was allowed to bleed.
I’m already not allowed to kill myself. He’s forcing me to live. Why can’t He allow me this little concession that would make my forced life a lot easier?
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Why would you follow a religion when life is so terrible on earth and all religion is lies. Self harm in every way possible. =)
Religion forbids a lot of things.
Drinking
Drugs
Tattoos
Sex out of wedlock
Thinking for yourself
Autonomy
Equality
Questioning dogmatic bullshit
Why would anyone who’s not brainwashed voluntarily follow any religion?
Free ashes one day a year for Catholics. Doesn’t get any better.
Espicopalians do the same thing. I’m not Episcopalian anymore though. Currently denomination shopping.
I have changed which denomination of Christian church I attend several times during my life. For example Baptists often put down alcohol as a beverage. Aw c’mon, the Bible is full of positive references to alcohol as beverage. So, I changed from Baptist to Community Churches where they did not worry about it as there was no need to worry about it just to worry about it. So that’s alcohol.
I mean the Bible does not say “Thou shalt not cut.” I just encourage you to take a closer look at what a Bible does not forbid and if your religion puts down whatever perhaps you could consider that to be their doctrine and say oh well that is what they think is right and meanwhile you can think about cutting in the way you need to. My 2 cents.
Haha, thanks, but I don’t think there’s *any* denomination out there that approves of cutting. Y’know, “the body is a temple” and all that.
I am afraid you are right there. My present denomination isn’t exactly keen on suicide, gee there is a surprise. Happy denomination hunting, I am on my forth one. There were things I liked about every one of the first three.
As to self harm and the like, Sucks to be us doesn’t doesn’t it?
I thought only like 40 people were allowed into heaven anyway.
I read a much higher number.
It is higher but I was making a point. It’s still only a very very small fraction of how many people there are alive today. Not to mention the estimated 100 billion already dead.
Like the 72 virgins?
I’ve read about that in the past I will have to revisit the topic. Thanks.
There seems to be a general lack of empathy when it comes to religion. I’m sorry that your beliefs are being attacked.
I do not know which deity you worship, but I promise no higher power will punish you for doing whatever it is you need to do to make it through the day.
Life is full of enough suffering. You needn’t force it upon yourself like this. If drawing a little blood will help heal your soul, then why should you not?
Thanks. I’m mostly used to it, though.
As for the rest of what you said, unfortunately, I believe in a God that expects obedience even when obedience makes my life harder. If I only do what He says when it’s convenient for me, then I’m a hypocrite.
But I appreciate your words anyway. Maybe one day, they’ll convince me.
To be honest, I just made this post to vent; I don’t expect to get any actual solutions. I don’t think there is a solution. I just need to whine about it a little to keep myself sane.
@whiskered-fish Wine and whining are both good I say.
@TMicheal Interesting point you make there about not being punished for doing what it takes to make it through the day.
My religion forbids self harm and other bad stuff too.
You WANT to start self harming? Wtf. Whoever told you self harm helps, or is glamorous, can stuff it. Like a drug addiction, it just makes your shitty life twice as shitty. I’ve been struggling for 4 years to get it under control but that’ll never happen. You don’t want to live the rest of your life looking like a victim in a horrible farming accident.
No one ever told me that physical pain would help me. I had to figure that out on my own. And it does help me. Don’t ask me why, it just does.
I’ll admit, I don’t want to be covered in scars. I hate scars, and I hate the idea of people seeing them and thinking I’m an attention whore. I also really hate the thought of having an(other) addiction, and I know cutting quickly turns into an addiction. But at this point, I’m desperate enough that if those were the only things stopping me, I’d start cutting today.
i used to cut. i cut where it could easily be seen, but also on the back of my forearm, where it would less likely to be seen. the scars are there and will always be. it’s a shame, really.
I’m sorry to hear that you regret it, suicidaldreamer.
Instead of self-harming, what about an elastic band around your wrist, arm, thigh, ankle, etc. Simply snap it whenever you want.
I only make this suggestion as you made the comment that you already scald yourself.
That’s not really the same kind of pain. But thank you for the suggestion.
Do you believe in religion? Seriouly? And yet you are miserable. Interesting. Seems like god doesn’t care to much about you huh
That’s a very 2-dimensional view of religion. I’m not religious, but I know that most religions teach that you must earn God’s help. i.e. just because you believe in God doesn’t mean your life is peachy. I hate when atheists ignorantly attack religion, it makes me look bad.
Wow god is so good!! He doesn’t help even knowing you need. What a great father he is. I think I am a believer now
@wanttodie2 I repeat, stop spouting ignorant sarcasm and hate, you’re giving legitimate atheists like me a bad name. I suspect you actually believe in God but are so bitter that you attack religion. True atheists don’t ascribe any “personality” to God because we view it as a null concept. But if it floats your boat, feel free to invent a God for you to hate, if that floats your deistic mind.
I don’t believe God is under any obligation to make my life better or easier, and I don’t really ask Him to.
I am (or was) religious too. But I’m in such a state of mind that I am doubting about god’s existence..
I’m sorry to hear that.
Wow, I should’ve known that the comments on this post would be complete cancer.
Do you believe your god loves the people he made? What about all the suffering in the world? Do you know there are a lot of woman and children been raped right now? Do you know there are people who dont have anything to eat? Do you know there are people who dont have legs or arms.
Oh yeah god has no obligation, he just made us and loves us.
I didn’t make this post to spark any theological debate and I refuse to engage in any theological debate.
All I’ll say is this: the problem of evil is a very old, very weak argument against God. There are plenty of videos and books on the subject. You have Google and YouTube at your disposal. Go nuts.
@whiskered-fish, just delete wanttodie2’s comments as he is the only person here incapable of discussing theism rationally. I’m an atheist, but I love talking to religious people because I see many interesting parallels in our “faiths” and I learn from new perspectives.
On topic, I did want to say it’s interesting and beneficial that your faith forbids self-harm (as well as suicide, I assume), because if you believe in a creator God it makes sense that you would be acting contrary to his will by destroying yourself. If that’s what motivates you to remain alive and free of self-harm, it’s a good thing.
If I delete their comments, they’ll think I’m a coward and cry about censorship. So I’ll leave the comments up, but I won’t respond to any more of them.
Anyway, I’m glad that you’re respectful about this subject. Most of my friends are atheists, and I know that most atheists are decent people, it’s just that the worst ones are the loudest.
I also like respectful theological discussion, but lately I haven’t been healthy enough for it. My spiritual health is in the toilet, to be frank.
And yeah, I guess most people would consider the fact that my religion forbids suicide and self harm to be a good thing. It probably is a good thing, even if it doesn’t look that way from where I’m standing.
Tbh I wish there were some kind of voice, divine or otherwise, telling me it’s wrong to kill myself or self harm. The huge problem with atheism is that it quickly slides into “nobody gives a damn” and that opens the flood gates on a whole world of problems. Humans lack a sense of moral identity, and religion/spirituality tries to fill that void.
For me, it’s not that God doesn’t exist. It’s more like I am disconnected from any sort of God or cosmic power that regulates our lives. I envy those who are connected to it. But as hard as I try to believe, there’s nothing there.
Sometimes it’s a good thing, because I get to feel the thrill of complete freedom and the ability to (try to) be anything I want to be, saint or sinner. But during dark times, freedom feels more like emptiness, abandonment and lack of guidance. That’s where self harm and suicidal thoughts take hold and spin out of control. I’m actually surprised that more atheists don’t kill themselves, because really, in the absence of pleasure there’s really no reason to keep living.
That is the work of the devil and god and devil are in a constant push-pull tug of war battle