i’ve always thought of this because these young people deserve the time to get better but is it alright if they did actually kill themselves? just to think of it if their depression comes from internal reasons that kind of depression never goes away does it? or is it just that they don’t know much of life so that they cannot really just die? it may seem like a dumb question but at which time is it acceptable to give up. i’ve wanted to die since 11 now im almost 19 nth changed and yeah that maybe is nothing but when can i just say fuck it and leave?
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When can you say fuck it and leave? I think the most reasonable answer to that is when you think you have enough. We all have limits and if you think you have succeeded that limit then I guess it’s just enough reason to go. I don’t think there’s hardly any exact time to die or kill yourself. If you think you must, then off you go. But if you still have something even though it’s just as tiny as a small piece of thread of hope keeping you from going then I can say that it’s not your time yet.
honestly i do agree with that. it’s all circumstantial tho. some people hold on to fake hope just because they want someone to notice. do you think it’s about being brave enough to let go?
Well very hard question, when we talk about children especially, I don’t believe any children should be able to make that decision under normal circumstances I don’t think they should be able to vote either , when they leave the nest and are responsible for their own actions as an adult sadly I feel they have a right too.
In a perfect world adults should be watching after them, but the world isn’t perfect, let’s say their being abused and that’s why they want to die, they deserve to live and the abuser deserves to die, maybe I MIGHT GO ALONG WITH LETTING THEM PULL THE TRIGGER! 🙂
i mean yes absolute children shouldn’t but what if they knew they are going to be doomed that the future holds nothing for them ? how better can it get ? a little? yes they shouldnt be allowed to die but that’s in a perfect world. in this world parents are the ones killing their children and no one is saying shit
Why wouldn’t they?
Why not? I mean, if you’re an individual, nobody can stop you from wanting what you want, doing what you’re going to do, and the dumb flock of monkeys we call society can think what it wants about it. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, right or wrong, but I don’t know the answer to those questions.
i do think so too. but sometimes some people want to die for changeable reasons. if it makes sense? so we like should try to stop them but if it’s not possible it’s their life after all
Not a hard question for me.
The human brain does not stop growing until about age 25.
This means, literally, your entire personality as well as the way you interpret pain and hardship is in flux until your mid 20s.
So to me, people committing suicide under the age of 20-25 is like a kid committing suicide because he has acne.
Obvious exceptions for victims of severe physical and sexual abuse which no one ever seems to recover from. Barring that, if it’s just depression, loneliness, confusion or feeling weak, I say give your body and your brain a chance to grow. If you’re still suicidal at age 30 then it’s up to you.
If most countries in the world recognize that children under the age of 18 shouldn’t be given alcohol, cigarettes or sex with adults because they aren’t fully aware of the consequences, the same sure as hell applies to killing themselves.
the end, Yes I totally agree with you conman since, As bad as the world has treated me at time’s, and as an ADULT to condone that little children can kill themselves is beyond the pale for me. To hear the stories of that is heart breaking most of the time it’s from bullying. I don’t codon that either, these kids that bully maybe have been bullying themselves it sad that they wish to inflect that pain on another to feel better, I guess misery love company at that age.
@rocketman that’s a good point about bullies being bullied themselves. They probably don’t even realize what they’re doing because they’re too young to understand. I’ve seen bullies get severely punished and that just makes them meaner and then they grow up to be total psychos. So I agree, adults need to be extra understanding and supportive of kids and teenagers because suicide shouldn’t be an option. It’s heartbreaking like you said, to think kids are killing themselves before they’re even old enough to drive.
so you think it’s better to wait 30 years in misery instead of give it up and go to peace? like i absoultly understand where you are coming from but .. why should anyone endure that. if it’s something that changes then alright they should seek change but if it’s not whats the point you know?
the end, Thanks It really was a tough question for many on a suicide site, I want to die why not let them! We have to remember were talking about children, the most defenseless little human beings in the world we need to protect them.
it is very very heartbreaking but.. what would they do if the people who are supposed to protect them just abuse and fail them.. isn’t that even more heartbreaking?
Of course it is, there are many ways to look at it, some are bad no matter what you do. Those will do it if they have a right too or not.
This was a question that made me stop and think which doesn’t happen often so you, my friend, have my attention.
I can answer this only from my own life experience and fully understand that other situations exist that I never endured so my answer is for those who had normal lives then got hit with depression later in life. For those, the answer is God please NO!
I’m in my mid 40s and have TRMDD (treatment resistant major depressive disorder). Medication never has and never will work for me. Any one here with real lifelong depression understands the kind of dark hole this puts you in.
But I remember my teens. I remember the depression I felt then. It was angsty, horrible, miserable, and I wanted to die a bajillion times for one reason or another. However now looking back through the eyes of real depression i can see how so much of that misery was…sadly…normal. it was hormones, and passion and my brain just trying to figure out my place in the world. It felt so all consuming back then but now I’d give anything for that to be all that was wrong with me. I wasnt abused. I was raised in a loving home. I had a normal life. Ive been different people at 15, 25, 35 and now and can answer that it is only my 45 year old self who has the right to let go. Because she has the wisdom to look back, can appreciate where I held on, and can cherish those 30 extra years a memories I collected because I didnt give in when puberty made me a roller coaster.
Teenagers are so young and as hard as it seems, I can PROMISE you, there are beautiful days coming their way filled with so many wonderful firsts that they should let themselves experience before letting go.
i’m glad it got your attention i really wanted people to talk about such things more. i do see your situation and i get it cuz i feel the same. but i cannot bear the idea of having depression till forever. the thought alone makes the reasons to die more valid in a way? yes people may have it worse i legit dont have a good good reason to die and most of those kids who die from bullying don’t either if someone stuck up to them but the whole thing is that.. no one will.. i am glad you survived and you hopefully enjoyed it.. but it’s hard to think that everyone should
only adults should be able to
I’ve wanted nothing other than to commit suicide since around 11. I was supposed to commit at 18, because I had no clue how to kill myself other than gunshot to head and you have to be 18 here to get guns at the store. Now I am 25. I have a feeling I don’t know how I’ll die if not by suicide by gun. I might die by cop shooting me because when I am in public I am frequently used as a scapegoat.. just randomly. Plus with how I look I would not be surprised if a random cop shoot me for no reason at all. I might be scapegoated so bad that I’ll have to rot in a cell for them because that would please them that I would be forced to stay alive to rot in a cell and they’d do that to me before they would let me kill myself.
i did read your story and you are a fighter. you really really are. hopefully you’ll get your peace while living or passed away.. i wish you well really