Lemme guess: You got crushed by society and never pursued your dream either, right? Yeah, that’s how it goes. Artsy female? Wonderful. Artsy male? May as well hang it up and become a NEET like me.
Its a shame that males get so much flack for being artsy and emotional. They’re human too, and as a female, I don think men should be displayed for such things. When artists are famous, such things don’t matter. But when they aren’t, it seems everyone judges them. And it isn’t fair.
Idfk anymore, I'm just here I guess8/13/2021 - 5:57 pm
I specifically meant art as in a hand-drawn/painted medium, not so much music. That’s hard to succeed in regardless. I mean more along the lines of what plainwhite said. Idk, I haven’t really analyzed it but male artists don’t get far in this day and age. We’re not allowed to be sensitive.
again, David Bowie. He was a painter, sculptor, actor, musician, author. In the tradition of Da Vinci a true renaissance man, sensitive af and proud to show it. in the painting world theres Warhol, basquiat, xiaodong, keith haring just to name a few of my faves. my point is if you believe in your art you should flaunt your sensitivity and say fu to anyone who laughs. I guarantee all the people I named including Bowie were bullied but they didnt let it stop them
Interesting story; used to be as far as visual arts. As a teenager I started getting exposure to professional authors, and one of my high school art teachers gave us the “You’re never doing this for a living, best find something that gives income to low level workers”. He was a real piece of work, actually all of my teachers up to college were real pieces of work, or disengaged and forgettable. I might be overstating it, but not by much.
My cousin, who is the closest I’ll ever have to a twin (behavior wise, we don’t look as much alike as we once did), went into art. He burned out of art school in his 20s, and now in his 30s has completed a degree in teaching art. As I felt he had that half covered (our family doesn’t reward redundancy) I decided to find another way.
So, I write. I write like I breath. Every now and then I figure out a way to get paid for it. I’d love to go into poetry and fiction…. maybe I will, not like life has anything more meaningful. I’m a very emotional man, to the point that for awhile in my younger years I thought I might identify as trans [didn’t, but it was an interesting time finding out]. So, that’s how it is. I’m also taking an interest in landscape architecture. Not in a professional way, but it is fun.
I dont think being emotional/artsy has anything to do with gender.
But even if you are atsy, male or female, most people dont care anyways. There are a million painters, musicians, dancers already. You’re just another grain in the sand. And there will always be an endless line of people who are better than you at it..
I think that for someone who can draw/paint, there are actually many employment options for you in game art design. Most indie programers aren’t great at art and are always looking for someone to make their characters, levels, props ect. Just going through kickstarter games, or craigslist, or linking your email on game development sub reddits will get you a job really fast. That’s just 1 possibility I guess, I know it might not be what you want to do.
I’ve done some graphic design and coding. It still feels like a fantasy to think about doing it for a living. One of the big things holding me back from coding for a living is that I don’t have any physical reserves left, and there is a problem in the industry about working people to the point of disability. The video game industry specifically is the worst offender on that score, often working people long hours leading up to launch, then either laying them off or forcing them to quit.
I am on a seemingly endless hunt for someone looking to launch an indie game. I would love to work with Chucklefish as an example, but Activision/Blizzard? EA? Bethesda? I’d rather be homeless.
I was looking at things like the Unity asset store, Fiverr, ect to maybe sell something for game developers. Whether it be meshes, maps, animations. Maybe that could give you some money? I feel underqualified but you sound more qualified. Maybe it can lead to a large profit? I know you want to make your own game, I just thought I would mention that.
And maybe if that does financially stabilize you, you can focus full time on your dream game.
As far as working freelance, more than anything else I think the real struggle is just the fact any artist is in a competition with a whole ocean of millions of other artists. Having skill is important and you can’t get by without it. However with the artists I’ve met that have made it, personality and social skills have been a bigger influence because they built communities around themselves that advertises them and draws in clients.
Yeah, probably the same here. I’d have to morph into another person entirely first. Might be able to get into another community for something unrelated to art and just get known as an artist there though. Still needs socializing and stuff but that might be a bit easier and more feasible.
For me being artsy is like being a producct that people don’t give a shit about, like pretty craft things and toys that are baought dirt cheap and thrown away a few weeks later. When someone is ‘Made’ in art, doing legendarily well, it means they can just pay their bills without having to supplement with a menial position. Now that computers and AI machine learning can create amazing art, people like myself are no longer just worthless but straight up redundant in societies parameter.
Being an artist is like landing up with all the rejected bits, the soul that landed up with the crappy attributes as it were, that other souls knew better than taking before coming here, the last tatty and mouldy school text book that the late student has to settle for.
While others get cool mathematical, analytical and other logical skills, people like me have shit that nobody cares for or wants unless its free.
Truth is the economy needs turnover, thats it, it doesnt care for humans, or life, its designed to destroy a planet with exonential force and has duped an entire species into feeding it’s parasitic operation, even if said species invented it.
Art will mean jack shit outside of stupid corporate ads and “branding” so long as the world is the mindless machine it is.
For me being artsy is like being a product that people don’t give a shit about, like pretty craft things and toys that are baought dirt cheap and thrown away a few weeks later. When someone is ‘Made’ in art, doing legendarily well, it means they can just pay their bills without having to supplement with a menial position. Now that computers and AI machine learning can create amazing art, people like myself are no longer just worthless but straight up redundant in societies parameter.
Being an artist is like landing up with all the rejected bits, the soul that landed up with the crappy attributes as it were, that other souls knew better than taking before coming here, the last tatty and mouldy school text book that the late student has to settle for.
While others get cool mathematical, analytical and other logical skills, people like me have shit that nobody cares for or wants unless its free.
Truth is the economy needs turnover, thats it, it doesnt care for humans, or life, its designed to destroy a planet with exonential force and has duped an entire species into feeding it’s parasitic operation, even if said species invented it.
Art will mean jack shit outside of stupid corporate ads and “branding” so long as the world is the mindless machine it is.
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Its a shame that males get so much flack for being artsy and emotional. They’re human too, and as a female, I don think men should be displayed for such things. When artists are famous, such things don’t matter. But when they aren’t, it seems everyone judges them. And it isn’t fair.
I dont understand why. I can point to many male artists……idk any females that i can think of.
(Because im sure someone will misunderstand, ‘i dont understand why’ is in reference to the stupidity in society.)
male female nonbinary doesnt matter, if you believe in your art you will succeed.
i submit as proof david bowie
Good example
I specifically meant art as in a hand-drawn/painted medium, not so much music. That’s hard to succeed in regardless. I mean more along the lines of what plainwhite said. Idk, I haven’t really analyzed it but male artists don’t get far in this day and age. We’re not allowed to be sensitive.
again, David Bowie. He was a painter, sculptor, actor, musician, author. In the tradition of Da Vinci a true renaissance man, sensitive af and proud to show it. in the painting world theres Warhol, basquiat, xiaodong, keith haring just to name a few of my faves. my point is if you believe in your art you should flaunt your sensitivity and say fu to anyone who laughs. I guarantee all the people I named including Bowie were bullied but they didnt let it stop them
Interesting story; used to be as far as visual arts. As a teenager I started getting exposure to professional authors, and one of my high school art teachers gave us the “You’re never doing this for a living, best find something that gives income to low level workers”. He was a real piece of work, actually all of my teachers up to college were real pieces of work, or disengaged and forgettable. I might be overstating it, but not by much.
My cousin, who is the closest I’ll ever have to a twin (behavior wise, we don’t look as much alike as we once did), went into art. He burned out of art school in his 20s, and now in his 30s has completed a degree in teaching art. As I felt he had that half covered (our family doesn’t reward redundancy) I decided to find another way.
So, I write. I write like I breath. Every now and then I figure out a way to get paid for it. I’d love to go into poetry and fiction…. maybe I will, not like life has anything more meaningful. I’m a very emotional man, to the point that for awhile in my younger years I thought I might identify as trans [didn’t, but it was an interesting time finding out]. So, that’s how it is. I’m also taking an interest in landscape architecture. Not in a professional way, but it is fun.
I dont think being emotional/artsy has anything to do with gender.
But even if you are atsy, male or female, most people dont care anyways. There are a million painters, musicians, dancers already. You’re just another grain in the sand. And there will always be an endless line of people who are better than you at it..
I think that for someone who can draw/paint, there are actually many employment options for you in game art design. Most indie programers aren’t great at art and are always looking for someone to make their characters, levels, props ect. Just going through kickstarter games, or craigslist, or linking your email on game development sub reddits will get you a job really fast. That’s just 1 possibility I guess, I know it might not be what you want to do.
I’ve done some graphic design and coding. It still feels like a fantasy to think about doing it for a living. One of the big things holding me back from coding for a living is that I don’t have any physical reserves left, and there is a problem in the industry about working people to the point of disability. The video game industry specifically is the worst offender on that score, often working people long hours leading up to launch, then either laying them off or forcing them to quit.
I am on a seemingly endless hunt for someone looking to launch an indie game. I would love to work with Chucklefish as an example, but Activision/Blizzard? EA? Bethesda? I’d rather be homeless.
I was looking at things like the Unity asset store, Fiverr, ect to maybe sell something for game developers. Whether it be meshes, maps, animations. Maybe that could give you some money? I feel underqualified but you sound more qualified. Maybe it can lead to a large profit? I know you want to make your own game, I just thought I would mention that.
And maybe if that does financially stabilize you, you can focus full time on your dream game.
As far as working freelance, more than anything else I think the real struggle is just the fact any artist is in a competition with a whole ocean of millions of other artists. Having skill is important and you can’t get by without it. However with the artists I’ve met that have made it, personality and social skills have been a bigger influence because they built communities around themselves that advertises them and draws in clients.
Oh man, not in my wildest dreams would I be able to facilitate any of that. I can’t even make lasting friends, let alone a community.
Yeah, probably the same here. I’d have to morph into another person entirely first. Might be able to get into another community for something unrelated to art and just get known as an artist there though. Still needs socializing and stuff but that might be a bit easier and more feasible.
For me being artsy is like being a producct that people don’t give a shit about, like pretty craft things and toys that are baought dirt cheap and thrown away a few weeks later. When someone is ‘Made’ in art, doing legendarily well, it means they can just pay their bills without having to supplement with a menial position. Now that computers and AI machine learning can create amazing art, people like myself are no longer just worthless but straight up redundant in societies parameter.
Being an artist is like landing up with all the rejected bits, the soul that landed up with the crappy attributes as it were, that other souls knew better than taking before coming here, the last tatty and mouldy school text book that the late student has to settle for.
While others get cool mathematical, analytical and other logical skills, people like me have shit that nobody cares for or wants unless its free.
Truth is the economy needs turnover, thats it, it doesnt care for humans, or life, its designed to destroy a planet with exonential force and has duped an entire species into feeding it’s parasitic operation, even if said species invented it.
Art will mean jack shit outside of stupid corporate ads and “branding” so long as the world is the mindless machine it is.
For me being artsy is like being a product that people don’t give a shit about, like pretty craft things and toys that are baought dirt cheap and thrown away a few weeks later. When someone is ‘Made’ in art, doing legendarily well, it means they can just pay their bills without having to supplement with a menial position. Now that computers and AI machine learning can create amazing art, people like myself are no longer just worthless but straight up redundant in societies parameter.
Being an artist is like landing up with all the rejected bits, the soul that landed up with the crappy attributes as it were, that other souls knew better than taking before coming here, the last tatty and mouldy school text book that the late student has to settle for.
While others get cool mathematical, analytical and other logical skills, people like me have shit that nobody cares for or wants unless its free.
Truth is the economy needs turnover, thats it, it doesnt care for humans, or life, its designed to destroy a planet with exonential force and has duped an entire species into feeding it’s parasitic operation, even if said species invented it.
Art will mean jack shit outside of stupid corporate ads and “branding” so long as the world is the mindless machine it is.
Apologies for the duplicate