I’ve had a chronic pain condition since I was 24 (I’m 42 now), it comes and goes and it’s not horrible most of the time but sometimes it gets so bad I can barely function for months at a time, I’ve lost up to 40lbs in a few months when it happens, the pain is so bad I can barely sleep, to me if I had to live like that all the time it would better to be dead. I’m not religious, though I have studied some eastern religious and I find them fascination, still I have this fear if I kill myself I will go to hell. I’m not depressed and I don’t want to die but I just can’t live in constant pain without any relief.
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You’re afraid of going to hell. You say it as if it’s an actual place like Paris or something. Do we have any selfies from hell? Any wormhole that takes us there?
It’s been said it’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they were fooled.
If you live decades more will that prevent you from going to hell if you were going to end up there anyways?
What a horrible place to imagine and what a sick mind that created it to scare people into following their evil religion.
Why worry about something you really know doesn’t exist? You KNOW there is no god, you only fool yourself into thinking there is, same goes for heaven, hell, angels, devils, these are just products of human imagination.
Have you ever seen any of these things, outside of claims in man-made “holy books?”
I’m not encouraging you to do anything. I’ve had health issues, some pretty severe and I experienced some extreme pain like with my back. And I agree, I could never live with such people, I’d rather end my life.
Fortunately I healed up from everything bad I had, but there’s no way I’d allow myself to suffer long term if there’s no hope of getting better. Life sucks already, no need to add to it.
Anyways, you have your answer. There are no heavens and hells, this is the only life you ever get, what you do with it is entirely up to you.
Don’t listen to that guy^ but try cbd or medication
Rick, what exactly are you objecting to? Are you claiming hell exists? Do you have any proof of this aside from fairy tales written by bronze age goat-herders?
correction to my post above: I could never live with such pain (not people)
I think the whole “suicides go to hell” thing was made up during the black plague/middle ages when they needed every live body they could get, same thing happened with birth control… there’s nothing inherently wrong with a self caused death, or birth control…..
You’ve got to remember that for thousands of years religion was the guardrails, the only helping profession. Most of the nonsense people get upset about regarding religion aren’t required elements, they’re things that bigots latch onto.
I believe, at least a bit, and I think if you’ve done all you can and the pain is impossible to stand, God should understand such a thing. If he doesn’t, I don’t want to spend my afterlife with him…. like if hell is being apart from God, it might be better considering who represents him down here.
Imagine if people believed Santa Claus was real and you had a holy book he wanted you to follow.
That’s what all religions are doing. It’s just that they’re brainwashed, so they can’t thinking logically and realize they are brainwashed and there gods, heavens, hells ARE NOT REAL! They’re all fiction.
People call other ‘bigots’ when they don’t want to admit they believe in a pile of nonsense. It’s just a smear, an ad hominem. But fortunately more people are waking up thanks to the internet and realizing that all religions are a pile of BS.
Yes in a pre-scientific age, when we knew nothing about the world, religion offered us answers. Now an 8 yr old child knows more about the universe than primitives from 2000 years ago.
This is the only life we get, there is no afterlife and I demand you provide evidence if you claim there is.
I won’t even begin to say I understand your plight. *hug*
Perhaps, if you are interested in Eastern philosophy, consider Simulation theory. It has helped me cope some with my own predicament.
And, the FEAR is healthy skepticism. No one knows what is afterwards or beyond this realm. There are stories, of all sorts some of which are very similar.
To discount them would be foolish. To believe them wholly equally as foolish.
Perhaps it is all mind-virus bs. Perhaps not. Nuggets of “truth” pointing to a potential consequence?
If there is a Creator, She gave you a mind for thinking and for seeing through all the various shades.
Whatever path you take, I hope you find Harmony. May The Dark Mother guide you.
Samandhakara
The metaphor of hell is real… most of us are in it already. Whether we’re talking about fire & brimstone & a guy with a pitchfork, or whether we’re talking about the suffocating agony of regrets & loss, pain is pain. I guess the $64 question is, does pain exist after we die? And if it does, is it forever?
I’ve heard a scientific definition of hell that terrifies the shit out of me. Scientists theorize that as you die and your brain shuts down, you experience distorted time. It gets stretched out. That’s why a lot of near death experiences talk about how it feels like hours pass even though it was only seconds.
The terrifying thought is as you hit the actual point of death. What if that moment is stretched out for what seems like years, or lifetimes? And you’re stuck with the realization that you just blew your brains out, or you just hit the pavement AND YOU’RE STILL ALIVE, thinking, conscious, aware. Because your concept of time is stretching that last 1 sec of life into years. To me that could be the hell of suicide. Stuck in that distorted time bubble where you can’t even die.
I dunno if the op was talking about theoretical stuff like this, or about literal Hell and spirituality, but either way I think it’s possible that we haven’t seen the last of pain.
Beloved, there is healing, there is hope. Ask for help and you will receive it. I’m really sorry that you have been feeling chronic pain for years. Does one ever get used to it? I send you love and hugs and, well, please do not feel downcast or without hope, because there is always hope <3