I think a lot of things could help but most of us dont have access to those things. could be as simple as a swim in the ocean or as tricky as the right drug cocktail. Or a reliable friend who can drag you out for coffee… I know certain things can break me out of a nosedive. But when you dont have those things, yeahh tough luck yer fucked
right- the lack of access to things that ACTUALLY work is the problem.
1-I need money to afford healthy living- healthy food, healthcare, better living environment, FREEDOM to do whatever I want and live whereever I want, etc
2-I need the right medical care (not the shitcare that is American Healthcare). Having #1 = having #2.
3- I need REAL friends. Sigh, having #1 gives me a better chance of having #3. Not having money means I don’t go out and do things to meet people or have hobbies that involve meeting people, etc -_-
4- Purpose in Life. Again, if I had #1, I can dabble in things which might lead to purpose.
rn I am broken, with no will to do anything as everything is so meaningless. Also lack the physical energy to do anything either due to health. But languishing in this state = doom.
bingo, that’s why I hate the phrase “help is available” with a passion. Sure, technically it’s available, but that’s like saying “Flights to sunny Hawaii are available! *fine print: It’ll just cost you $5k and then hotel that’s another $5k per week, plus what are you gonna eat… dude just stay home and rot bc that’s all you poor ppl can do”
The DIY fixes, fresh air, exercise, distractions, those are like bandaids for a gushing wound. First ya gotta stop the gushing before those have any effect. And when you’re this far down the hole it’ll take a LOT to stop the gushing.
Also like you said, everything snowballs. If you don’t have $$ you can’t be healthy. If you can’t be healthy you can’t have a positive attitude. And if you don’t have a positive attitude then kiss your friends goodbye because nobody wants to associate with a suicidal headcase. Then the coup de grace: without social relevance there’s no point in existing.
the whole thing is like a freight train heading for disaster, you can’t stop it once it picks up momentum. welp I guess all we can do is sit back and ‘enjoy’ the ride 😐
“If you don’t have $$ you can’t be healthy. If you can’t be healthy you can’t have a positive attitude. And if you don’t have a positive attitude then kiss your friends goodbye because nobody wants to associate with a suicidal headcase. Then the coup de grace: without social relevance there’s no point in existing.”
This is EXACTLY what happened to me. Now I’m stuck in this pit of loneliness, shunned by society and me hating society for it’s lack of empathy and care.
i’m just so angry and bitter at this point. everyone has been such shit to me for the past 14 years that i’ve been sick- not just not helping me in the slightest, but i get shunned for simply BEING sick- and i’m being blamed for being sick- like it’s my fault- GTFOH.
homosapiens sicken me. i now hate humans, which obviously doesn’t bode well for you know, making friends and socializing, which i no longer bother to do.
unknown, since “help” is such a wide scope. Take some of the strain? Sure, I can go with that. Books, gardening, swimming and playing with my dogs all take some of the strain. But wider than that? I don’t know, too soon to say. Make us as capable of those who are perfectly healthy? no, I’d say you are correct that we’re fucked in that regard, but we always were.
I think the greatest help is a lowering of expectations, that people be ready to fill gaps we can’t fill ourselves and accommodate our problems. If that kind of help is available, I imagine it would be quite effective. People have unrealistic expectations, I’m glad for any day I get out of bed and do more than sit in my chair all day. It is my understanding this is considered a low amount of expectations, but since it’s that or be so depressed I cannot achieve any function, I’d say it’s a win.
yeah i’m not looking for a little something to just “take the edge off”- i need the universe or someone to give me something that will actually change my life.
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I think a lot of things could help but most of us dont have access to those things. could be as simple as a swim in the ocean or as tricky as the right drug cocktail. Or a reliable friend who can drag you out for coffee… I know certain things can break me out of a nosedive. But when you dont have those things, yeahh tough luck yer fucked
right- the lack of access to things that ACTUALLY work is the problem.
1-I need money to afford healthy living- healthy food, healthcare, better living environment, FREEDOM to do whatever I want and live whereever I want, etc
2-I need the right medical care (not the shitcare that is American Healthcare). Having #1 = having #2.
3- I need REAL friends. Sigh, having #1 gives me a better chance of having #3. Not having money means I don’t go out and do things to meet people or have hobbies that involve meeting people, etc -_-
4- Purpose in Life. Again, if I had #1, I can dabble in things which might lead to purpose.
Well FML.
rn I am broken, with no will to do anything as everything is so meaningless. Also lack the physical energy to do anything either due to health. But languishing in this state = doom.
bingo, that’s why I hate the phrase “help is available” with a passion. Sure, technically it’s available, but that’s like saying “Flights to sunny Hawaii are available! *fine print: It’ll just cost you $5k and then hotel that’s another $5k per week, plus what are you gonna eat… dude just stay home and rot bc that’s all you poor ppl can do”
The DIY fixes, fresh air, exercise, distractions, those are like bandaids for a gushing wound. First ya gotta stop the gushing before those have any effect. And when you’re this far down the hole it’ll take a LOT to stop the gushing.
Also like you said, everything snowballs. If you don’t have $$ you can’t be healthy. If you can’t be healthy you can’t have a positive attitude. And if you don’t have a positive attitude then kiss your friends goodbye because nobody wants to associate with a suicidal headcase. Then the coup de grace: without social relevance there’s no point in existing.
the whole thing is like a freight train heading for disaster, you can’t stop it once it picks up momentum. welp I guess all we can do is sit back and ‘enjoy’ the ride 😐
“If you don’t have $$ you can’t be healthy. If you can’t be healthy you can’t have a positive attitude. And if you don’t have a positive attitude then kiss your friends goodbye because nobody wants to associate with a suicidal headcase. Then the coup de grace: without social relevance there’s no point in existing.”
This is EXACTLY what happened to me. Now I’m stuck in this pit of loneliness, shunned by society and me hating society for it’s lack of empathy and care.
yeah, “help is available”- only to those that can afford it or have family/spouse/friends who can help them.
i’m just so angry and bitter at this point. everyone has been such shit to me for the past 14 years that i’ve been sick- not just not helping me in the slightest, but i get shunned for simply BEING sick- and i’m being blamed for being sick- like it’s my fault- GTFOH.
homosapiens sicken me. i now hate humans, which obviously doesn’t bode well for you know, making friends and socializing, which i no longer bother to do.
I’m old. We’re fucked. Some days ~ years, even ~ are better than others. But that bus is always around the corner.
Yup. Life is an orgy, and we’re the participants. Any “help” is just a temporary distraction.
if life was an “orgy” it wouldn’t be so bad. but life is a pile of shit that some of us were given.
unknown, since “help” is such a wide scope. Take some of the strain? Sure, I can go with that. Books, gardening, swimming and playing with my dogs all take some of the strain. But wider than that? I don’t know, too soon to say. Make us as capable of those who are perfectly healthy? no, I’d say you are correct that we’re fucked in that regard, but we always were.
I think the greatest help is a lowering of expectations, that people be ready to fill gaps we can’t fill ourselves and accommodate our problems. If that kind of help is available, I imagine it would be quite effective. People have unrealistic expectations, I’m glad for any day I get out of bed and do more than sit in my chair all day. It is my understanding this is considered a low amount of expectations, but since it’s that or be so depressed I cannot achieve any function, I’d say it’s a win.
yeah i’m not looking for a little something to just “take the edge off”- i need the universe or someone to give me something that will actually change my life.
Sometimes getting through it is remembering that we live in an age of indoor plumbing and penicillin. We’re better of than 99.9% of human history.
I’m fucked. I’m leaving as soon as I get my affairs in order.