I knew it. I knew this rock bottom thing was bullshit, and now I know why. This is all a money-making racket. As 99% of most things in life boils down to the root of.
If ppl think they need to hit rock bottom, they won’t stop their destructive behaviours, bc they think they have to hit “rock bottom” first. And also, friends /family will refuse to help, and many are specifically told to NOT help from AA groups and counselors/therapists bc they “need to let the person hit rock bottom.”
Basically, if family truly help the person, and if friends are sympathetic, the person might actually recover, which means no money for addiction centers, hospitals, clinics, counselors, and everything supporting this massive industry.
So all they have to do is teach the counselors and the public to parrot the whole “rock bottom” bs. That you should NOT help but instead allow the addict/depressed person to fall deeper down to rock bottom, and somehow, the addict/depressed person is magically going to get an epiphany and make changes to their life and turn their life around.
That is UTTER BS. When someone is an addict or depressed, you HELP THEM, NOT WAIT till they fall deeper and deeper into addiction or suicidal. Once someone hits a new low, the harder it is to get back up. It’s like falling into a 3′ hole. Then 10′. Then 20ft. Then 100ft. The deeper someone, falls the HARDER it is for the person to climb out.
The whole rock bottom thing is complete bs and completely opposite of what it should be.
-Just like how the medical industry lied to us about cigarettes (with drs recommending certain brands).
-Just like the USDA lied to us about fat, to switch to low fat or not fat foods. And replace it with carbs/sugar. Which obviously *now* we know that sugar is super bad for us. But not before a ton of damage was done.
-Just like how the USDA taught us to eat breads, pastas, and cereals as the base, and to NOT eat fat, which is filling. The Food Pyramid has since been shown to be a fraud, and was created by Big Agrabusiness. IE eat sugary cereals, sugary breads and pastas, bc it has no nutritional value so you’ll continue to be hungry and you eat more, meaning you’ll buy more and more. If you eat fat, you get full very fast, meaning you won’t keep buying and eating.
Everything that is “told” or “taught” is literally the OPPOSITE of what we should do. So I distrust the whole “rock bottom” crap. Even if I wasn’t distrustful of what is pushed to us by the mega health/addiction recovery, just on a personal note, I keep hitting bottom time and time again, and it just gets worse and worse. For 18 years. I’m about as bad as it gets. There is no bottom. Bottom is death.
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https://www.changingthenarrative.news/hitting-rock-bottom
“Hitting rock bottom” is a common recovery slogan. It implies that people with addiction must face dire consequences that result in great suffering and humiliation before they are ready for treatment. Compassionate efforts by family and loved-ones to help is regarded as “enabling” and prevents someone with addiction from “hitting bottom,” further delaying the recovery process.”
“There is no scientific evidence that backs up the idea that “hitting rock bottom” or experiencing extreme negative consequences is what prompts recovery…. If someone relapses, a new bottom needs to be found, which can occur repeatedly”
“In fact trying to create or simply allow negative consequences to affect a loved one can be a dangerous practice. Families are sometimes instructed to cut ties with loved ones or call the police to have them arrested so that they can “hit bottom.” Instead of recovery, this can just as easily lead to worsening addiction, even death.”
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This whole thing reminded me of something dark I came across awhile ago, that I’m not sure if most people are aware of; a lot of the space of dealing with severe issues is occupied by people with an agenda.
I think about it more this time of year because of the bell ringers in front of stores. They come from an organization that puts extreme strings on help, they split up families and in ways exploit those they claim to help. This is extremely common with charities where I live, and charities occupy MOST of the “help” available.
Which is why I’m more for public sector solutions, because you can audit them, they have a lot more of a problem having an agenda (though they still sometimes do)
Anyway I remember a conversation I had with someone higher up in one of these charities, and I asked them; “Why not focus on prevention? Offer help without strings, wouldn’t that help more people?”
and the response, paraphrased was ‘If we did that people wouldn’t be desperate enough to embrace our beliefs.’
and I’ve talked about the sometimes cultishness of 12 step groups, and it occupies a lot of the ‘recovery’ space. They are not motivated by minimizing harm, they want to convert people to their views. So ‘rock bottom’ is code for desperate enough to do ANYTHING to get help. And some people die before they get there. It’s made harder by the few people who really want to save people, who are then forced to work within a structure that relies on pain and despseration.
Most people are more willing to accept some evil to get to help some people, and I’m the rare exception of someone unwilling to participate in corrupt power brokering. Because these things do come out, and more often than not they take down people who really wanted to make a difference. The really exploitative people are hidden by layers of bureaucracy and plausible deniability. The rest are sacrificial to scapegoating bad behavior on individuals when the system itself is sick