It’s my body. I should be able to do with it what I want. I know assisted suicide is legal in some places, for people with terminal diseases. But it should also be legal for those who have depression. What is the point of living if we feel there is nothing else left to live for?
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Hmm… for me it’s a tough call on that one. I’m generally in favor of the freedom to kill yourself for everyone, but the “assisted” part makes me wonder…
In many cases (or at least mine), depression alters your ability to make rational choices. In the case of cancer patients and people suffering with terminal diseases their minds are still more or less able to make intelligent, logical decisions. So if they choose to die but can’t do it on their own, I believe society should help them. But with mental illness, you never know what’s a sane choice vs. what’s brought on by a fit of emotions or temporary delusions.
If there were assisted suicide clinics for people like me, I promise you I wouldn’t be alive today. The first bad day I had, I would be checking in and checking out. So while I’m 100% in favor of peoples’ choice to kill themselves, I think society “enables” people in moments of weakness, that’s a grave mistake. Interesting topic though, I wonder what everyone else thinks.
suicidal ideation is not a product of a defect of the mind, at least I don’t think the defect is as bad as to make someone mentally and rationale impaired. Depression is a reaction to circumstances whether they are internal or external and who is the judge whether their reaction is rational or not? everyone has different brain chemistry and different genetics so we act individually rather than in a consistent pattern when exposed to the se environment. I believe that a mature, clear minded person should be granted the right to kill themselves – the the most basic right we should possess. I also think that people who suffer under terminal or pertuale medical ailments should be allowed to kill themselves. It’s all subjective so there should be no objective one-size-fits-all legal law.
ugh forgive my typos i’m typing on a mobile phone and I hate it
what you have to keep in mind a suicidal ideation IS a a rational response to outward circumstances. The brains primary function is to problem solve and rationalize, so would it be that hard to say that the brain has rational come up with a solution for a problem it could not solve?
From an outside perspective suicide will always look like an irrational response to circumstances you might not think are difficult, which leads us back to every person is different and can function under different levels of duress. i stand by my statement that suicide is a rational response to a life you feel like you have lost control of. because what happens when your computer stops functioning? you trash it
“granted the right to kill themselves – the most basic right we should possess”
Absoluitely, no arguments there. My problem is with society *assisting* suicide for people whose minds are, by definition, unstable. I can’t speak for anyone else’s depression, but I know mine comes in torrential waves. The up days are awesome while the down days I just want to stick the first sharp object in my face. That’s what I’m saying it’s society’s responsibility to differentiate the “right to die” from “facilitating death”.
Again I totally agree & stress that self-imposed death is our right, and if anyone tries to forcefully stop me when I decide to do it, they may end up inadvertently joining me. But for able-bodied individuals, suicide must be a personal choice and a personal act. No assistance needed or wanted here.
what gives the state the right to dictate what a person does to themselves? does that mean the state owns us, therefore is allowed to infringe on our decisions that don’t affect anyone else? it’s all a messed up system that should be discarded as it’s founded on no judicial logic
The state, i:e the government has always felt like it owns its people.
Legalise drugs first
Righttt ???????? sigh.
I feel like some ketamine
Special K?!? Fuck. That. Shit.
They gave that to me after a massive bout of acute pain, and I spent three hours in Minecraft land, watching Steve and the doctors take me apart limb by limb, and send my body along a conveyor belt. That was the most shitty, out there fucking trip I’ve ever been on. I saw dead people, but their faces weren’t theirs, along with some other fucked up shit.
It did help the pain though.
I tend to think it’s a good thing because many people would off themselves without giving themselves a chance. However, the people with chronic suicidal ideation brought on by depression and/or circumstances would finally have a legal way out. I say if somebody is over 18 they have the right to their own body and mind. They can make up their own mind. However, I can still see how a society such as ours wouldn’t and couldn’t allow that to happen. It’s in our nature to fight death. Basic instinct. Like our survival instinct. We want to see others survive. We know deep down in ourselves that death is so final. It’s a tough call.
If most countries in the Western world don’t even have the death penalty, they’re sure as hell not going to legalize assisted suicide.
I couldn’t agree more. I reject the idea that my depression makes me incapable of deciding for myself that I should die. In fact, my depression is pain. That’s all it is. And anybody is capable of rationally assessing that they’re in pain. I was on the therapy and medication treadmill for so long that I must have taken dozens of various combinations. It never helped, I never saw even marginal improvement, it frustrated my therapist and my psychiatrist, I got frustrated, and the whole thing was nothing but a waste of time and money. People like me deserve a painless way out if we want one, although personally I don’t. A way out, yes; a painless one, no. Besides, even if my state (California) does enact the proposed assisted suicide bill that’s been proposed, there’s no way in hell it will ever cover someone in my position. I’ll have to go it alone, let down by everyone else, just as usual.