Sorry, but this is a religious question for those who are not religous.
So I have been thinking about this with one of my friends that if I commit suicide then I go to Hell, but I don´t understand. The reason I am confused is because if we commit suicide, but we believe in God, or what ever religion you may be, people say that you will go to sin and go to Hell but if a man who murdered thousands of people, and believes in God, then he will go to Heaven. So I am wondering if I commit suicide and believe in God, will I go to Heaven or Hell?
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I was thinking about this last night and I came to the conclusion that I hope I go to hell because I prefer the company of non-religious people. Anyway, I don’t think there is heaven or hell. My theory is people draw up fictious fairytales in their down time to entertain, boss people around and control to the masses.
I don’t really believe in this myself, but technically the christian belief is that suicides end up in hell. Personally I think that’s just stupid. Even if heaven and hell and all that was real, you’re not hurting anyone, it’s your life, it should be your choice what you do with it.
Only catholics believe that when you commit suicide you will go to hell
I think it is stupid that they believe both that there is a thing such as God, who is suppose to be omnipotence and omniscience, made a plan for everyone. Including the people who is going to commit suicide. So yea, that is like saying god is purposely sending people to hell. And that is dumb. I don’t think the person that wrote the Bible in the first place knew what he was talking about.
My take on this is really, no, you are not going to hell because you die. But because you hurt the soul of the people who love you so deeply, not because you offended god’s gift to you.
I am not a catholic, nor very religious of anything so I might not know a lot of things i just said though
Yeah but the point is I’ll admit it I’d rather be in Hell
You’re confused because the people who created religion did their job correctly. Religion is supposed to confuse, because it has no logical, evidence based structure to support it. It began as one man asking ” I wonder if there’s a god”, and has spiraled out of control since then, becoming nothing more than an opinion based ideology maintained by constant bickering over intangible concepts that, in the end, solve nothing, answer no questions.
Religion is just a guess. Who needs religion – us, a bunch of scatter brained idiots trying to find meaning while simultaneously destroying ourselves, or the universe? Look to religion for answers, you’re just inviting confusion, because religions don’t operate in the world of reality, they operate in the world of “should be.”
Noone knows for sure what comes next.
You can choose to believe in a fairy tale god who is supposed to do this and that, or you can look at the world around you and see evidence of a universe that really doesn’t give much of a shit and provides no clear cut answers. You won’t go to “hell” If you commit suicide, you’ll escape it.
Religion heavily contradicts itself many times over, go ahead and believe in God but please heavily reconsider the religions you have been “taught” all were weaved by mere mortals and you know how corrupt us humans can be.
In no right mind would taking your life make you get punished by an all loving deity.
So if someone believes you will go to “hell” for suicide, their God may aswell be named after the devil himself.
That’s the last lie they tell you.
If you believe in god and commit suicide, then you return to the state you were in before you were born. Whether you’d call that heaven or hell is another question. I’d call it being subsumed by the universe.
I don’t see why you all find this so confusing. The christians believe god is the creator of life, so they believe he created us all. Our lives are his to decide about so if we take our own life we destroy something he made and he punishes us for that. The example you gave about the one that killed 1000 people: if he asks for forgiveness he might still go to heaven. But: if i slap you in the face for 6 weeks every day, and i ask you forgiveness it’s possible you forgive eme. But if i ask: please forgive me because i’m going to slap you in the face again this evening, you would say: just don’t slap me in the face again, why should i forgive you if you can still decide to change your mind about this. Suicide is the same thing, you can not ask for forgivenes before you commit suicide, and after suicide it’s to late because you are not alive annymore. I don’t see what is confusing about that.
I think the confusing part lies in suicide being a sin in the first place. It’s like punishing someone for having endured unbearable pain and suffering in life, by forcing them to endure unbearable pain and suffering for eternity.
Remember that all the good people are in hell. All the interesting ones, at least.
If you go to heaven, you will be hanging out with irritatingly pious do-goodies and priests with an unhealthy appetite for choirboys.
Yes. I am looking forward to eternity with Metallica and the Rolling Stones. I doubt they’ll be playing the Pearly Gates Convention Center anytime soon.
You’re forgetting that Metallica went after Napster, which gives them V.I.P. access to heaven. As for the Rolling Stones, are you sure they’re even mortal?
Lol!
I tell myself that it does, because that’s what keeps me from doing it.
Well done for fighting it! How is your pet tarantula?
He’s doing okay, I think. He’s fasting right now which means he might molt soon. I know that he’ll probably be fine, but as a new mother I can’t help but worry, haha.
No, you dont go to hell as a christ, not evan catholic. If you believe in Jesus, not even suicide can send you to hell. But you must believe…
BTW there is no afterlife… sorry 😉
How do you make humans behave morally their whole lives?
You dangle a huge carrot (heaven)/stick (hell) at the end.
How do you make children behave all year?
Santa Claus.
With so many opinions already expressed I wonder if one more will be useful. But I was thinking about this post from when I saw it at work. I have been thinking about this question since my youth. Now I am 60.
Here goes: I use the bible for my point of reference. The bible mentions many instances and aspects of suicide. The interesting thing about reading of suicide in the bible is that the word suicide was coined some 1600 years after the bible was completed so it takes a bit of searching to find the many, many suicide situations contained in it.
Now to answer your question: Does suicide send you to hell? The bible has not one word spoken against suicide. It teaches that those who believe in the God it reveals are going to heaven. Some prominent believers in the bible offed themselves with no ill effect whatsoever being mentioned.
I love that you put so much thought and knowledge into this. Thank you.
Believing in hell is a logical fallacy, and here’s why.
1) God is all-knowing and all-loving.
2) God created a place where He can eternally torment the creatures he created and claims to love.
That makes no sense. Why would an omniscient diety who’s filled with love intentionally create a group of people who are destined to suffer for all of eternity?
Maybe God is a sadist or a narcissist, or maybe God only exists in the imagination of those who have been brainwashed into believing in Him. Religion has always been a powerful tool in controlling the behavior and thoughts of the easily led hordes of humanity. Maybe it’s time to start employing critical thought and (un)common sense instead of relying on blind faith.
Subvert the dominant paradigm and say no to the Koolaide.
God is love, though. Granted a shifting connotation of that word, of course. Just like how Islam is the religion of peace, and like how Charmin toilet paper offers a money-back guarantee.
I’d be interested in learning the Christian definition of the word “love”. Does that word translate as “being born for the purpose of burning in a lake of fire for eternity if you’re incapable of believing in unverifiable claims”?
If so, I’ll pass on the love. Thanks but no thanks, JC.
Well, given how the old testament played out, I’m not sure anyone could properly summarize it. God works in mysterious ways, man. Those ways might not make sense to us mortals, but that’s only because His ways are internally inconsistent and weird.
It’s funny you say that.
Whenever I asked my hardcore, Bible thumping fundamentalist Christian mom a theological question she couldn’t answer, she’d say “we can’t understand how God thinks”.
Whoa.
Doesn’t tyranny flourish when the oppressed stop questioning the oppressors?
If we understood God to our complete satisfaction, leaving no inexplicable questions of thought or behavior, he would not be God.
That’s probably why people keep insisting they know what god wants – if nobody can understand how god thinks, then who can say if they’re wrong? It’s like a tree falling in the woods when nobody’s around to hear it. It probably sounds like winning the jackpot on a slot machine.
Q: Why did the girl fall out of the swings?
A: Because she had no arms.
Terrible joke, that’s what this thread reminds me of.
Heya! I’m now speaking from a totally different point of view, my previous “religion” believed in past lives and all that stuff. Supposedly, when you commit suicide you come back to earth with a “sin to pay”, that is, your suicide. And that kinda sucks, because the purpose of suicide is to never come back to this planet, yet this religion not only says you’ll be back, but you’ll suffer even more? That really sucks! That’s why I’m on my way to become an atheist and I find comfort in believing what my atheist friend said: “When you die, it’s lights out and nothing else, your existence is erased”. Because that’s where I would want to be, floating in the nothingness.
Then again, that is my personal wish as someone who is terrified of the idea of reincarnation that my religion taught me.