Here I am, inspired to write again after two seconds after the last post I just put up. Here’s an argument? Is suicide really immoral??? is it really that bad to suicide. Is it considered selfish? (Directions to do: Read this paragraph and comment. Then proceed to next part, if you are just browsing and won’t comment then go ahead.)Â
You may feel guilt that it is. You may think others will suffer. They will suffer but is it wrong to do it?
I ain’t a religious person, I am an agnostic atheist, so as a matter of speaking, if God made humans and the devil made them a mistake. Then humans are considered different from animals, right? Are animals perfect? They have to be, because nothing in the bible says they ate the apples from the forsaken tree, so therefore they haven’t sinned and they are perfect, right???Â
Now after that idea I implanted to your head (through inception jk). Animals must be perfect. I am speaking of the dolphin. A majestic creature of great intelligence, they are really close in comparison to humans. I watched a video in school about the marine mammals in Sea World. A dolphin was in containment for too long. A man was taking care of it and noticed it seemed “sad”. For an animal, depression isn’t commonly thought about. Guess what the dolphin did?
If you guessed “take a breath and go underwater to suicide”, then you are correct. Why would a perfect bein/animal kill itself when everyone considers it immoral and stupid. An animal in containment, who is mistreated and only pleases it’s captors.Â
The man tried to carry the dolphin to the ocean but got arrested for a week. He then decided to talk about and against captive animals, that they must be released after an amount of time. If there was no possible way of escape from captivity. Then what is there left? Use the dolphin as a argument…….
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Interesting argument, and I think it speaks strongly against keeping animals captive. However the argument for suicide being immoral falls apart if you’re not Christian, because there was no garden of Eden or forbidden fruit or whatever. But I do like your logical sequence, it was thought provoking for sure.
Exactly but I used to go to church all my life for 16 years, but that’s just based off of what little I learned that is surrounded by bullshit. Anyways, your saying that since I’m not affiliated with any religion that there is a flaw in my logic since I don’t believe in it? Well agnostic is pretty much my being unsure about a god. And in case your wondering as I like to explain myself I was a Jehovah’s witness back when I was brainwashed by my father.
Oh no, I don’t mean it’s flawed because you’re agnostic. I mean it’s flawed to anyone who doesn’t believe in Christian god, such as myself. But as I said, I like your train of thought even if I don’t believe/agree with some key points.
Oh yeah sorry misinterpretation but yeah I don’t believe that crap but I was talking of that because all of our oposers towards our suicide would he religious idiots saying that’s sinful and family, but yeah I know. It struck me out of the blue, I was posting my other post and decided to write that. Though I was hoping to get correct comment to each paragraph as I organized it but anyways I have a much greater argument against my opposition now.
An yeah I see. I agree it’s bullshit to say suicide is immoral or a sin. I don’t condone it ad a good choice, but I mean I’ve thought about it. I am on this site after all haha. But I lost a very good friend to suicide when we were 17. So I know what it’s like. It’s horrible. It’s the reason I sometimes want it myself. Things can always get better though, I don’t believe suicide is ever the right choice.
Well, Yeah I’m sorry about your loss. I must be lucky that I haven’t lost anyone close to me but I surround myself by SPers and eventually I may get hurt after I get too close to one and (sorry he rambles on, he has a problem, yes this is rogue) it will really hurt me when It does eventually happen.
I have tried to make myself emotionally and psychologically strong but I still can’t get the same feeling of a loved ones death as to train my brain for someone’s actual death.
Well maybe with some extreme exceptions like terminal illness.
Yeah I want to say euphoria but that’s the after effEct of a drug or something what’s that word for putting a human down out of their misery?
Euthanasia that’s the word
Yeah, euthanasia. I’m okay with that. I never want to be a vegetable. If I’m old and I’ve got terminal cancer or something I’m not gonna get chemo, fuck that. I’m going to jump out of a plane, or off a building or a cliff or something. So that I can feel alive when I do. So I can be free. That’s the only part of my friends suicide note that I know. He apparently said he wanted to be free. I want that before I die too. I love the feeling of free fall. It’s a minor obsession actually, I think it would be liberating. Anyways, just my crazy rant haha
Haha don’t worry it’s a good rant way better than mine. I wonder if I have cancer cuz my family already had 3 relatives with cancer. Well yeah anyways that I wish were to happen to me euthanasia
I often wonder if I have cancer too. Maybe thats why I’m fucked in the head haha. I’ve had a couple really bad headrushes too where I start shaking uncontrollably. I even fell over and shook on the ground once a couple years back.
i don’t believe it is wrong to make people suffer. i mean, pain in life is inevitable. and i like to believe that even if it may be selfish, the people that beg you to not do it (if anyone knows about the suicidal thoughts) are just as selfish. not wanting you to end your suffering, just so that they no longer do.
thought that finally got through my head after someone telling me, suicide Would create a chain of events. and that’s quite ridiculous..
anyways.. humans and animals are different. obviously. as we are more advanced in intelligence and whatever else. animals live in a constant state of consciousness. if they get angered (due to invasion of territory or what have you) it is brief and then done with. they move on. they cannot hold grudges.
i liked that post though. it made me Think.
sorry to interupt the conversation. lol.
mann, i get upset when people talk animals and the mindless/souless oppression that humans have dealt them in.
i was in the the other going insane because i was thinking about how i went to the groomers(for my dogs the other days) and they dogs there. And,,, they’re kept in a small behind a glass window …. and I was looking at 1 of them … and he just looked …. iono like he hasn’t slept for years …. or maybe the other way around, (it’s eyes red sagging/dragging down lookin just out of it..) And he’s just looking at me and he’s probably thinking …..
What … is this?
Why … is this?
Who are you?
What am I?
why…
can you help me?
please..
they sell*** dogs there**********