Well thHeaven’s Gate, but you are about 20 years late to join that one. There was jonestown but you missed that one by 40 years. Sadly we don’t find out about these super secret suicide cults until they have already suicided and by that point it is probably too late to join. 🙁
Hmm. That might just work. The only difficult part would be convincing those crazies to let you in their club. They’re all related, and I think they only accept relatives.
Personally, I don’t think that I would ever outright provoke someone to murder me (though I might be willing to just ask them nicely and hope for the best).
However, I’m totally okay with the idea of being sacrificed by a violent cult. That’d be a neat way to go, wouldn’t it? Laying splayed-out and carved-up on an altar as an offering to some Cosmic Horror from beyond the veil. Sounds like a swell idea.
I am sure I could cultivate an inbred hillbilly look. I am certainly ugly enough for it. Just need to grow out some hoboish facial hair and not shower for a few months and I am sure I could pass myself off as cousin jimbob from California.
Funny thing now that you mention it. Tortured to death by some crazed cult of psychopaths probably wouldn’t make my list of top methods. My number 1 priority as far as methods go would be as painless as possible. Now if I could get them to just shoot me in the head that would be more like it. You can keep all those gory bloodbath horror film methods for yourself. Maybe you could be part of a real life jigsaw death game like from the Saw movies
To be honest, I’ve met a lot of hillbillies, and they look far better than the WBC people. I wonder if they’re inbreeding.
And funny that you say that. I actually can’t watch any of the Saw movies without getting really, inexplicably angry. Saw, Final Destination, Hostel…pretty much any film or franchise of the torture porn/gore porn variety.
I have no compassion for myself whatsoever but for some reason when it’s someone else I want to fucking puke. Usually, anyway. The vast majority of the time. It makes absolutely no sense and it’s frustrating, because it means I can’t use those sorts of things as outlets.
But yeah, kidnapped and tortured to death. Sounds like a plan, I am dead serious. No pun intended.
Any takers? C’mon…you know you want to…
It wouldnt surprise me to find out all the WBC are inbred. Who else would breed with them.
I would have thought that the gratuitous gore of those movies would have been very appealing to you. It still bothers you even knowing it’s fake? What about violent video games? Lol I bet you could find an extremely violent video game where it lets you really fine tune the appearance of the character, make a character that looks exactly like you and beat the crap out of her. What about those times you feel like killing everyone, can you binge on gore flicks then?
Yea I imagine you are serious. Having some one else kill you gets around that pesky suicide sin going to hell issue. Kind of unlikely to find any takers though.
Yes, it still bothers me even though it’s fake. Just knowing that somebody had it in their mind and decided to write it disturbs me deeply. I know, I know, I’m the queen of hypocrisy. But I’m not like that, really. I want to torture myself, I don’t want to torture other people.
Sometimes, I wish everyone and everything on the planet would spontaneously die, and yes that’s disgusting but it’s a different type of disgusting. There’s a fundamental difference. I don’t particularly want everything to suffer. And especially not on a deep, intimate level, as victims of torture do. I just occasionally want everyone to drop dead.
And that video game idea sounds like a lot of fun. Man. I need to find something like that.
Yeah, it is a nice loophole, isn’t it? I mean, I’m probably going to burn in Hell anyway, no matter how it is that I die. But just in case, being killed by someone else would be preferable to having to kill myself. (Though, maybe I’d get punished for causing someone else to commit a sin? Eh, maybe.)
Another reason why being murdered would be better? Because it would all-around be a more awful death. A torturer could do much more (as well as inflict a more diverse range of) harm to me than I ever could to myself. And I wouldn’t get to chicken out, either. It would be a guaranteed death.
Your obsession with having the most awful death possible is so very odd. It is also probably about as likely to happen as you winning one of those super lotteries. I suppose it is always possible that you could become the target of some deranged serial killer but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Actually holding your breath would probably be more likely to kill you lol. Maybe you could try hitchhiking back and forth across the country for the next few months to increase your odds.
That was something I never really understood. It seems like everything is a sin. That everyone sins a hundred times a day. So why would suicide be an automatic ticket to hell but all those other Sins you might have committed the day you died wouldn’t have been.
It is odd, definitely. But it’s who I am now. It’s a desire that has completely consumed my identity. Or, I suppose not completely, but very nearly. I guess I have my own terminal mind virus.
You’re right, there’s a very slim chance of it happening on its own. But maybe one day, I can amass a small fortune and pay someone to do it. You can find all kinds of sick fucks out in the dark corners of the Internet.
I know it’s an incredibly nïave and foolish idea, but ya’ gotta have dreams, right? That kind of hope keeps me going.
In the spirit of complete and total honesty, I have to confess that I’m not even entirely sure about whether or not suicide is an unforgivable sin.
Very recently, my uncle and I were having a discussion, and in that discussion he asserted that it in fact wasn’t. My uncle is a very deeply religious man, and very knowledgeable about the faith. So part of me feels inclined to believe him. Another part of me, however, just really doesn’t want to make that gamble until I’m absolutely certain.
Haha yea it’s always nice to have those hopes and dreams to give life some measure of purpose. People will do pretty much anything for money. Although if you are paying someone to murder you. Do you think that would be counted as suicide on your judgement day? I mean in a legal sense hiring someone to commit a crime makes you just as guilty as the person that actually committed the crime. That is taking an active role rather than just maybe putting yourself into situations of increased risk.
As you say that is quite a gamble to make. I don’t see how you could find certainty though. It seems like if there is any certainty it goes the other way. most people believe that it is an unforgivable sin. Not that the majority is always right but it never really even seemed like something there was much debate on. Although I suppose there are many different sects and they all seem to have somewhat different interpretations and beliefs.
Yeah, it could still be counted as suicide. Or at least as me causing another person to sin. We are definitely not supposed to do that.
If it isn’t obvious yet, I’m almost a nominal Christian. I cling to the beliefs as best as I can, but lately, I haven’t been very good at behaving myself. And I’m pretty sure that it isn’t Christ-like to spend most of the day fantasizing about how you’ll torture and murder a person (even if that person is only yourself.). I’m sure God hates me, which is fair. Or at the very least, He’s very furious with me.
You have a point about the historical consensus that suicide was a soul–damning sin. But historical beliefs weren’t always right. Limbo and Purgatory were both historically held beliefs for quite a while (neither of which were supported by scripture), but today Christians of all denominations generally consider them to be nonexistent places. I like to base my doctrinal beliefs on Scripture alone, and there is no scriptural basis for either side of the suicide debate. I’ve heard compelling arguments that it’s forgivable, and compelling arguments that it isn’t. So, I’ll just have to do more thinking about it.
Either answer would be both good and bad for me. If I find out that it is unforgivable, then I’ll be compelled to keep myself alive until my natural death (although I’ll likely be an emotional wreck for all of that time). If I find out that it isn’t, I’ll probably be a lot less mentally tormented, but it won’t really matter, because I’ll also be taking the first bus outta hear.
Although I am honestly not well read or well informed about anything to do with religion. I always thought Christians had a pretty sweet deal. Accept that Christ is your savior, that he was crucified to redeem you of all your sins, and from then on you have your get out of hell free card. So no matter how egregiously you sin after that you are covered as long as you hold onto that get out of hell free card. It would definitely make my list of belief systems I wish I could have faith in.
As far as God hating you or being angry with you, I don’t know. I mean he has 7 billion other people in his flock to keep track of. That and all the billions of souls that have already lived and died. As much as you hate yourself and think about causing yourself harm I am sure God has seen much worse.
So there is no passage in the bible that expressly forbids suicide as something unforgivable. Above and beyond all other sins?
Actually if I was a religious or spiritual person I would have probably already caught a bus to whatever the next stage of existence is. What mostly keeps me here is the belief that there is nothing else. Even though I may think this is all a boring empty meaningless waste of time. I still find that preferable to not existing at all. Now if I could convince myself to believe there was something beyond this. I would probably be the first in line to escape this boredom and try something different, pretty much anything different. Not hell though lol. Eternal suffering is not something I would be in any hurry to get to.
It’s not really a suicide cult but I thought about a mexican drug cartel. It would be just like suicide, it will make anyone who joins lose their head about it.
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Well thHeaven’s Gate, but you are about 20 years late to join that one. There was jonestown but you missed that one by 40 years. Sadly we don’t find out about these super secret suicide cults until they have already suicided and by that point it is probably too late to join. 🙁
There must be one somewhere
You can start one. I’ll join 🙂
How would we make one
It’s called The Church of Euthanasia. Not really secret, though.
“Save The Planet; Kill Yourself.”
There’s also the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, which is less of a “cult” exactly, but have much grander long-term goals.
Are yu for real??
Yeeup. Look it up.
They’re known for getting into tiffs with Pro-Life groups, endorsing cannibalism, and laughing about 9/11.
Oh cool, do we get a free “lifetime” supply of ******** when we join?
“Lifetime”!
Laughed way too hard at that. 🙂
I laughed, felt bad, then laughed again. 🙂
Jokes that make you do that are the best kind of jokes! 🙂
I might join that westboro cult. It would be kind of like suicide, just tell everyone that I am a member and wait for someone to kill me.
Hmm. That might just work. The only difficult part would be convincing those crazies to let you in their club. They’re all related, and I think they only accept relatives.
Personally, I don’t think that I would ever outright provoke someone to murder me (though I might be willing to just ask them nicely and hope for the best).
However, I’m totally okay with the idea of being sacrificed by a violent cult. That’d be a neat way to go, wouldn’t it? Laying splayed-out and carved-up on an altar as an offering to some Cosmic Horror from beyond the veil. Sounds like a swell idea.
I am sure I could cultivate an inbred hillbilly look. I am certainly ugly enough for it. Just need to grow out some hoboish facial hair and not shower for a few months and I am sure I could pass myself off as cousin jimbob from California.
Funny thing now that you mention it. Tortured to death by some crazed cult of psychopaths probably wouldn’t make my list of top methods. My number 1 priority as far as methods go would be as painless as possible. Now if I could get them to just shoot me in the head that would be more like it. You can keep all those gory bloodbath horror film methods for yourself. Maybe you could be part of a real life jigsaw death game like from the Saw movies
To be honest, I’ve met a lot of hillbillies, and they look far better than the WBC people. I wonder if they’re inbreeding.
And funny that you say that. I actually can’t watch any of the Saw movies without getting really, inexplicably angry. Saw, Final Destination, Hostel…pretty much any film or franchise of the torture porn/gore porn variety.
I have no compassion for myself whatsoever but for some reason when it’s someone else I want to fucking puke. Usually, anyway. The vast majority of the time. It makes absolutely no sense and it’s frustrating, because it means I can’t use those sorts of things as outlets.
But yeah, kidnapped and tortured to death. Sounds like a plan, I am dead serious. No pun intended.
Any takers? C’mon…you know you want to…
It wouldnt surprise me to find out all the WBC are inbred. Who else would breed with them.
I would have thought that the gratuitous gore of those movies would have been very appealing to you. It still bothers you even knowing it’s fake? What about violent video games? Lol I bet you could find an extremely violent video game where it lets you really fine tune the appearance of the character, make a character that looks exactly like you and beat the crap out of her. What about those times you feel like killing everyone, can you binge on gore flicks then?
Yea I imagine you are serious. Having some one else kill you gets around that pesky suicide sin going to hell issue. Kind of unlikely to find any takers though.
Yes, it still bothers me even though it’s fake. Just knowing that somebody had it in their mind and decided to write it disturbs me deeply. I know, I know, I’m the queen of hypocrisy. But I’m not like that, really. I want to torture myself, I don’t want to torture other people.
Sometimes, I wish everyone and everything on the planet would spontaneously die, and yes that’s disgusting but it’s a different type of disgusting. There’s a fundamental difference. I don’t particularly want everything to suffer. And especially not on a deep, intimate level, as victims of torture do. I just occasionally want everyone to drop dead.
And that video game idea sounds like a lot of fun. Man. I need to find something like that.
Yeah, it is a nice loophole, isn’t it? I mean, I’m probably going to burn in Hell anyway, no matter how it is that I die. But just in case, being killed by someone else would be preferable to having to kill myself. (Though, maybe I’d get punished for causing someone else to commit a sin? Eh, maybe.)
Another reason why being murdered would be better? Because it would all-around be a more awful death. A torturer could do much more (as well as inflict a more diverse range of) harm to me than I ever could to myself. And I wouldn’t get to chicken out, either. It would be a guaranteed death.
Your obsession with having the most awful death possible is so very odd. It is also probably about as likely to happen as you winning one of those super lotteries. I suppose it is always possible that you could become the target of some deranged serial killer but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Actually holding your breath would probably be more likely to kill you lol. Maybe you could try hitchhiking back and forth across the country for the next few months to increase your odds.
That was something I never really understood. It seems like everything is a sin. That everyone sins a hundred times a day. So why would suicide be an automatic ticket to hell but all those other Sins you might have committed the day you died wouldn’t have been.
It is odd, definitely. But it’s who I am now. It’s a desire that has completely consumed my identity. Or, I suppose not completely, but very nearly. I guess I have my own terminal mind virus.
You’re right, there’s a very slim chance of it happening on its own. But maybe one day, I can amass a small fortune and pay someone to do it. You can find all kinds of sick fucks out in the dark corners of the Internet.
I know it’s an incredibly nïave and foolish idea, but ya’ gotta have dreams, right? That kind of hope keeps me going.
In the spirit of complete and total honesty, I have to confess that I’m not even entirely sure about whether or not suicide is an unforgivable sin.
Very recently, my uncle and I were having a discussion, and in that discussion he asserted that it in fact wasn’t. My uncle is a very deeply religious man, and very knowledgeable about the faith. So part of me feels inclined to believe him. Another part of me, however, just really doesn’t want to make that gamble until I’m absolutely certain.
Well, as certain as one can be with a faith-based belief.
Haha yea it’s always nice to have those hopes and dreams to give life some measure of purpose. People will do pretty much anything for money. Although if you are paying someone to murder you. Do you think that would be counted as suicide on your judgement day? I mean in a legal sense hiring someone to commit a crime makes you just as guilty as the person that actually committed the crime. That is taking an active role rather than just maybe putting yourself into situations of increased risk.
As you say that is quite a gamble to make. I don’t see how you could find certainty though. It seems like if there is any certainty it goes the other way. most people believe that it is an unforgivable sin. Not that the majority is always right but it never really even seemed like something there was much debate on. Although I suppose there are many different sects and they all seem to have somewhat different interpretations and beliefs.
Yeah, it could still be counted as suicide. Or at least as me causing another person to sin. We are definitely not supposed to do that.
If it isn’t obvious yet, I’m almost a nominal Christian. I cling to the beliefs as best as I can, but lately, I haven’t been very good at behaving myself. And I’m pretty sure that it isn’t Christ-like to spend most of the day fantasizing about how you’ll torture and murder a person (even if that person is only yourself.). I’m sure God hates me, which is fair. Or at the very least, He’s very furious with me.
You have a point about the historical consensus that suicide was a soul–damning sin. But historical beliefs weren’t always right. Limbo and Purgatory were both historically held beliefs for quite a while (neither of which were supported by scripture), but today Christians of all denominations generally consider them to be nonexistent places. I like to base my doctrinal beliefs on Scripture alone, and there is no scriptural basis for either side of the suicide debate. I’ve heard compelling arguments that it’s forgivable, and compelling arguments that it isn’t. So, I’ll just have to do more thinking about it.
Either answer would be both good and bad for me. If I find out that it is unforgivable, then I’ll be compelled to keep myself alive until my natural death (although I’ll likely be an emotional wreck for all of that time). If I find out that it isn’t, I’ll probably be a lot less mentally tormented, but it won’t really matter, because I’ll also be taking the first bus outta hear.
*outta here.
That’s embarrassing. I’m tired, I guess.
Although I am honestly not well read or well informed about anything to do with religion. I always thought Christians had a pretty sweet deal. Accept that Christ is your savior, that he was crucified to redeem you of all your sins, and from then on you have your get out of hell free card. So no matter how egregiously you sin after that you are covered as long as you hold onto that get out of hell free card. It would definitely make my list of belief systems I wish I could have faith in.
As far as God hating you or being angry with you, I don’t know. I mean he has 7 billion other people in his flock to keep track of. That and all the billions of souls that have already lived and died. As much as you hate yourself and think about causing yourself harm I am sure God has seen much worse.
So there is no passage in the bible that expressly forbids suicide as something unforgivable. Above and beyond all other sins?
Actually if I was a religious or spiritual person I would have probably already caught a bus to whatever the next stage of existence is. What mostly keeps me here is the belief that there is nothing else. Even though I may think this is all a boring empty meaningless waste of time. I still find that preferable to not existing at all. Now if I could convince myself to believe there was something beyond this. I would probably be the first in line to escape this boredom and try something different, pretty much anything different. Not hell though lol. Eternal suffering is not something I would be in any hurry to get to.
I jus want to find a regular suicide cult
Those are really hard to find until the suicide happens
It’s not really a suicide cult but I thought about a mexican drug cartel. It would be just like suicide, it will make anyone who joins lose their head about it.