I know that the immediate impact on people around the person who suicides might be pretty intense for a short while, especially if they are someone who cared about the departed. But soon enough life goes back to normal and people move on and find other people, so aside from the grieving emotions which are short-lived I wonder if affects the evolution of our species. Does it strengthen the species by having less weak individuals to pass on genes, does it mess up the balance in favour of the rich (and poor) arrogant assholes, does it perhaps weaken the species as the bereaved individuals are usually more sensitive than the average and the species loses some of this diversity? Or maybe is the human race left unchanged? Does it do anything to the psyche of the community in which you lived? What are your thoughts? Are there other aspects that you can think of that might be positive or negative?
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I dont think it really changes the species, mate. One person… In a world of billions? Thats kind of like one leaf willingly jumping off the tree, and landing on the forest floor.
And by that comment, I don’t think you understand the process of natural selection…
Lol I wonder if any of you really understand evolution… It’s all a change in DNA, not a completely new strand, just a change. If you wanna get real technical with things, everything is changed by germs… even the way we think
@TC – I am very intrested, how does DNA change with viruses and germs?
It would definately narrow the diversity of the species. I think it’s fair to say that in general, those who suffer from depression are more sensitive and empathic. Those characteristics lend themselves to creative arts and comunity/social work. So lets say all those people dropped dead – maybe you would have a stronger species. But I think, it would be a less empathetic and creative one – argueably, it would be less humanistic.
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Yea there definitely seems to be a tradeoff between being less sensitive to the needs of others consequently being better equipped for survival and passing down such neural pathways, and being more sensitive and so more vulnerable and perhaps passing on a nervous disposition (epigenetics has shown that people who have high levels of stress hormones can pass on excessive levels of neural pathways for stress hormones in the child) – which in the end might make the species more expressive, or even repressive depending on circumstance.
In the end, I’m not sure if it really matters in the context of our own life. Evolution is such a slow process that our own lifespan is but a millimeter on a scale that spans the cosmos and we will never see anything beyond our own life – although one might be able to foresee the next step from precursors which are evident, from change that has been set in motion.
I guess if in your heart you have love for humanity then that will keep you going to reach beyond your own lifespan and make your mark on the history books of our species – even if it is just as a brief mention or a footnote.
I’m not sure where to go next with what I wanted to say as I am very drunk and baked. Thanks, one_day though, you’re the only one who actually answered along the lines of what I was asking.
I just read what I wrote and realised that there are also people who are sensitive but not empathetic… if you get what I mean… like they understand acutely what is happening but don’t want to extend help. Like me. I don’t extend or ask for help. Just spew bile which sometimes can make sense
Empathy is not neccesarily about the desire to help. It is the capacity to put yourself in someone else’s shoes and feel what they feel. Either way, I think in order for our species to better itself we do need diversity of character… society collapses if there is only one type of person.
Honestly I think empathy is the key to understanding ourselves and our place in the universe. That understanding is intergral to almost all technological advances (space exploration, study of evolution, a lot of things are driven by the desire to know where we come from and what our role in the universe is…) so empathy and the pursuit of knowledge and understanding is largely responsible for how far we progressed as a species.
I am also a little drunk so I think I went off on a tangent.
PS i also want to add that there are different types of progress – one is purely physical survival. The other is humanitarian (what we can accomplish, how far we can evolve). Personally I feel the latter is more important.