Well, today school got too much for me and I made myself sick so I got to go home. When I was sitting with my mum, we got onto the topic of suicide somehow, (she doesn’t know I’m suicidal) and she said that people who commit suicide are selfish. Do you know how much that stabbed me? I can only think of what she would think if I ever plucked up the courage to do it.
But in my view, not that it matters, people who commit suicide aren’t selfish at all. They’re miserable, and they’re trapped. They need an out and they find one. If anything, the people wanting them to continue to be miserable, are selfish for keeping them in the darkness.
I don’t know. Some people find a good way out, they find a purpose and they live for it. They begin to get better and they live life how they should. I don’t see myself doing that, at all. Not much is worth a smile, these days.
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All mums say that at first. If she knew how you felt she wouldn’t have said that. It takes time to understand and I think if you need to you should tell her. She won’t risk it.
Perhaps you’re right, but my mum isn’t one who understands things like this easily. She’s stubborn and if it’s not her opinion, then it’s not right. But thank you anyway, maybe I’ll try.
I understand. My dad worked in a factory and wasn’t educated so he can’t really relate to some of the things my mum can but does his best. I’m lucky really, they were both cool.
Your badly out of sorts. It doesn’t matter whether she understands or not at this stage. It’s about getting you back on track and that’s exactly what’s going to happen. Don’t worry about it, nothing terrible has happened yet and but you must get to work on yourself. There are lots of things that you can work on and options still available
So because your hurting hurt the people you love?
Yes
jordy, you missed the discussions yesterday about this. @people_do_care thinks suicide is extremely selfish
A while ago I heard something similar, from a random stranger in a store and she had me thinking. And the thinking had me on google. I’m obsessed with quotes and because of what that woman said I came across this quote.
“It is not seen as insane when a fighter under an attack that will inevitably lead to his death, chooses to take his own life first. In fact, this act has been encouraged for centuries, and is accepted even now as an honorable reason to do the deed. How is it any different when you are under attack by your own mind?”
-Emilie Autumn
I found this inspiring, having those same suicide thoughts and hearing someone claim suicide is selfish, after reading this quote I realized something.
Those who are suicidal are not thinking about anything, but the pain they hold, and they have no other option in their mind. That’s their business. If someone chooses to claim suicide selfish, then I say it’s murder.
And the murderers are those who don’t stand up and help us. All it takes is someone telling use that life with us wouldn’t be the same, that in some way we make things good.
Suicide is both a choice and an option, some people make the choice to take the option of suicide, because it seems to be the only choice and option.
For your mother to say those who commit suicide are selfish, them I believe she is selfish not to see how much suicide victims need someone else to prove life is worth living.
I hope this made sense and helped. I’m new and am just trying my best to help.
Selfishness is a good thing. Depends what someone’s belief is. If more people were selfish & considered their own needs instead of having the disease to please, this world would flow a lot smoother. I’m not encouraging you to do one thing or the other, but I would let you know that if someone tries to make you feel bad, that’s about them & that is an attempt to take away your God given power to make what ever decision you feel is best for you. Good luck.
Everyone is selfish.
It’s fuckin’ useless to point out that suicide seems to be, too. Don’t worry about your mom’s feelings on the subject- it matters more what your viewpoint is.
Nothing is ever worth a smile, just like nothing can ever earn your tears. But we all smile and cry anyway, because we’re people and that’s what we do.
There’s really no way a life should be lived. Sometimes the best thing is to keep doing what you always do, and keep living just to show that you can.
Spitting in life’s face is always fun.
But I’m only 14, so what do I know?
Everyone has they’re point of views, mines is that it is selfish but someone people are very selfish I can’t change they’re minds and others agree