just opened fb and saw this phrase, dont know who said it but… it pretty much resumes all im feeling!
“Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees”
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adolf hitler best example
really? well he commited suicide as well… didnt he?
he didnt want anyone to put him down
his ego made him commiting suicide
it was something brave about him i think. after all he did was a huge mistake… at least had the guts to admit defeat, not that he was wrong but that he was defeated.
He did. It was he’s only wayout. The war was lost and soon the red army would be at his bunker. Berlin was in on the front line now. And RAF had bombed it into ruins. The fall of the third reich was Interment. And National socialism.
yes, that or being enclausurated for eternity or whatever would come his way. im really enjoying learning about whats behind this phrase 🙂 what i appreciate here is that im at the same step as he was. im admitting defeat too. and i prefer to do it standing.
I think he said They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. Then killed him self.
My miss take that’s from a movie. Troy i think.?
blahh what u meant?
what u gonna do?
ah ok but that sounds good too. nothing just yet, but in plans yes
what plans baby
Yes what plans? That quote has nothing to do with suicide BTW. Not to me. It is saying it is better to stand up for yourself and fight for freedom, yourself, what you believe, anything than serve someone else, be a slave on your knees. It’s about living to your fullest and the furthest thing from suicide there could possibly be.
i have approved your comment just to say youre not on my head, you dont know how i think or how i read it and definetly not how i perceive it, you cant and are not me or anyone else. to me has everything to do with suicide, has all to do with being defeated at my war (life) my way of doing things is up to me my way of knowing what i mean is up to me too. if you want to fight fine im actually very glad and happy for you just dont ask others to feel the same as you thats utopia hun, just saying…
youre sweet… i will skydive soon!
Blahh, I get it and immediately thought of suicide (not a stretch for me). My plan is to make people think I’m on my knees so as to get the supplies I need to live another month or two and make my exit. I must grovel, humble myself, agree with the vile things my family thinks of me…but just for a little while, and all for the greater good of finally standing and finally being able to take matters into my own hands.
I called the Samaritans in UK today. The woman helped me to realize how much I need that N for a feeling of some kind of control in my life that is otherwise completely beyond my control. Even if I never use it, I must have it available.
Sky diving seems like the perfect way of having some control in an uncontrolled situation.
i do the opposite, i look like im standing to everyone but i know im defeated and before im literally on my knees i acknowledge i have only 1 way out.
you realise skydiving is only the door to what comes after dont you? yes im always open to whatever comes next but at this moment in time i do know whats intended with it.
Blahh, I think what you’re saying is not that skydiving will be the exit route, but rather a prelude to it. I just hope you’ll let yourself have that complete skydiving experience and live long enough afterward to remember how it felt.
im actually pretty scared of it idk what will happen in the meanwhile or afterwards, but i know i could control myself pretty well for most of my life. im just so curious about my reaction to it though 🙂
Curiosity never killed a cat that had a working parachute.
Good quote. I can relate it to my unwillingness to compromise my beliefs and conform to the masses just to go on living a lie.
Also, FB is evil.
Skyyyyydiiiiiiiiiiiviiiing <3
so true, i could not conform to the masses either and compromise my beliefs at all. Its all part of me, i could not lie to myself.
😛 <3
This is to Blah – I wasn’t telling you how to think or anything else. OBVIOUSLY you can interpret it however your previous little heart desires. What I did tell you is what it means and the context of it. It can be seen as you saw it, however that isn’t what it was meant to refer to.
As someone who has struggled with suicide my whole life it is not my intention to get in a pissing match with you. Debate who is in more pain or whatever. I was concerned with your plan whatever that may be. I’m sorry your head is so clouded that you can’t see I CARE ABOUT YOU as a human being.
So save me the passive aggressive BS. That isn’t going to work on me. I am an expert in that.
I won’t be back to read your reply, just know that people out there do care. Yes even ones you have never met. I wish you well and all the peace in the world.
im sorry it offended you, it did offend me and the reply was not a payback. do as you wish, i do care about you and all others here and im sorry you have dealt with suicide all your life. the pain its just not bringing my love back. so if you deal with it you have your reasons and so i have mine. its not the lack of caring that makes me do it… i dont talk about my plans because theyre personal and when the time comes you will know whats up… i love you all we are all in the same boat whether same problems or other type but we are all at this one point: here, and its always just a matter of time!
You know what I lied. I did come back because I care and I’ll chalk your crappy attitude up to life. I’ve been their my friend. It sucks. I’ve been suicidal, I am a recovering self injurer as well. Again my intention wasnt to upset you or make you feel anyway except to see that giving up isnt the answer. So please don’t. Hang in there! As I said people care. I care.
I like this quote. I am rather exhausted from living on my knees and pretending to be on my feet. I’m thinking of skydiving too!
Good God, Blahh, you have the right to express yourself just like everyone here does! Some souls here are VERY touchy and easily angered and set off, and easily attack others they admit they don’t even know.
Keep speaking your truth and challenging people if their feedback makes huge assumptions or is another generic, do-gooder-type response.
MeganMoody, It is never ok to encourage someone to try to kill themselves. But it’s also not real appreciated on this site when strangers respond to a post giving advice and making sweeping statements like ‘suicide is not the answer.’ That might be true for you or what you need to believe, but many of us here do not feel that way.
It’s also great to make up and apologize, but you name-called (“crappy attitude”), which is hostile and also not ok here unless it’s done in a joking fashion with those you know well. JUst saying.
thank you catchthebus… i will keep telling the truth!
THank you Megan i apreciated your comment. I just wonder what upsets you so much in people wanting to die.
Honestly you want to know Blah. I feel like killing myself all the time. As I said I also am a recovering self injurer. There is no worse feeling than knowing nobody cares if you live. Lying on that bathroom floor having done horrible things to yourself knowing not only does nobody care, but you can’t even tell someone because they will judge you. I am here to tell you I care is all. I don’t want anyone to kill themselves. I recently went to a funeral. A good friend of mine. Anyway as I stood there saying goodbye it dawned on me. We all will be here someday. Lying in a box like this, going through this process. We all will die. If death is guaranteed no matter what, why hurry up and die? Life sucks sure, but so does dead and we’re going to die soon enough. Now do I still think about suicide? Unfortunately yes and I know it is unnatural. It isn’t what we are meant to do. We are meant to love each other and care for each other. We each have our reasons for wanting to die. That is mine. Nobody has ever cared. Maybe I projected some of me onto you. Maybe you have people who care. If that is one of the reasons you feel like dying – nobody would care though – it isn’t true. Megan cares. And I suppose it just irks me that people can sit around and discuss suicide like it is this great thing. I may have suicidal thoughts A LOT, but even I know it’s not normal to sit around and talk about it like you have already decided this is what I am doing. Don’t take this the wrong way, but it is almost like attention seeking. Or a weird way to make friends. There should be no shame in talking about suicidal thoughts in our society and our feelings. That is a big problem. BUT it is not as great as everyone thinks it is. Even I know that.
And do gooder response? Really catchthebus?
well i care, people care about you at least here, but does it stop anyone from killing themselves or even being good to others or loving eachother? does it really change the way most behave? does it change the world? life sucks i have real painful downs i dont know what comes next or even how bad itll come and how long itll last this time. it gets you tired. and thank you for sharing… <3
Sorry Megan, I appreciated your post and understand much better what you meant. I guess being depressed is making me a little testy, too. Hope you’re feeling a little better.
blahh,
haha! blahh i believe most of us are already dead but we just won’t lay down 🙂 we don’t know better!
funny you 😛