As a depressed person, I always hear “Stay strong, God will help you.” or “God had better plans for you.” and a whole lot of other shit. Neither me nor my friends believe in God. Why would we? If God is so great, why would he let us suffer like this? Why would he let some people take their own life? Why would he put us through Hell? I’m a much firmer believer of The Devil than I am of God. If God really existed, he wouldn’t make us stop believing in him. Get your shit together! Open your eyes! God. Is. Not. Real!
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I don’t like it when people say god isn’t real!
….I already know! Fuck!! lol 😉
Haha ^^
God sounds like a fairy tale for gullible adults. Everything will be fine. The good will be rewarded and the bad will be punished in the afterlife.
Do something now for those who are suffering rather than preaching God… Well said, OP!
And the belief that people who commit suicide go to hell is absolutely obnoxious.
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I believe in the decency and good will of others. Far less folk lore than the bible I’d say!
I mean.. We are here together on this planet and most of us insist on revolving each of our worlds individually around an entity we can’t even see, designed to provoke fear, loyalty, and an altered perception on morality and integrity.
I turn to man when times are at their lowest because man is here with me, not god. I can’t thank a god for my life and I can’t blame one either so how can god exist? Man exists, why not put faith in the good will of men? It’s not a fucking unicorn!
Decency and good will of others? If that isn’t naive I don’t know what is.
See this is what you don’t get…
It takes strength and compassion amongst other things, to believe in man! To believe that he/she has the strength to be better, despite all hateful interactions with the world of “man”!
That’s the catch with suicide..it’s only for the weak! You can’t say you understand one person from another if you can’t even attempt to live past all failure and down falls and the deceitful nature of mans ignorance. If you don’t want to have faith in the good nature of those living in this world then that’s a choice. Like its a choice to believe in a god. To say you have no faith in yourself or others is not saying that you have no choice in the matter.
I have faith in every person on this forum, aside from how the world is and how it’s wronged you so badly. I have strong faith that each person has a strength inside themselves that needs to be believed in, in order to bring out the good that makes life worth living. It takes the good will of every man and woman to create a world worth living in.
That’s why I keep my faith in that respects.
Thanks
Humans are fucking miserable creatures. There is more pain than happiness in this world, and it’s because humans are selfish bastards. Yes, if we wanted to change the world to be a better place we could do that, but as long as there are way more selfish than selfless persons in this world there is no point in trying.
Actually believing in the “good will” of humans is not like believing in god. There is no evidence of god, but there is lots of evidence that humans are fucked up (just look at how many wars are raging right now, or how many crimes were commited this year only).
If people who believe in God are stupid then people who believe in the good will of all human beings are even more stupid.
Like I said.. Weak
I’m actually curious as to where this is all coming from. What’s your general experience behind your reasoning? How old are you and why do you want to hate the world and kill yourself in the first place? You kinda just came out with this adamant objection to my mentioning of good will. Seems kinda transparent.. So give it some depth or leave me with this impression of you if you want.
You don’t even listen to what I say. If rational arguing makes you a weak person the I am weak.
I guess people are just killing each other out of the goodness of their hearts. Suicide bombers actually only want to help you get into paradise. “Good will”
You seem very stuck in your way of thinking.. “You don’t even listen to what I say” that’s cuz there isn’t any listening involved, it’s reading. You aren’t thinking rationally. You are just spitting out hateful words on account of some past bad experience. Talking about suicide bombers like I not already acknowledge that the world has problems. You can build your wall of fear and hate but it isn’t doing anyone any good buy saying that there isn’t any good in any one. That’s just foolish talk. To believe and love a god over having faith in man out of spite of man is pure ignorance based on negative reactions to your own life experience. Many people get along just fine and have been through worse. Trust that. Grow the fuck up and give a real argument if you insist on arguing.
I’m done with this convo cuz it’s pointless reading your vague replies
I encounter people like you on this site regularly, and the only thing I feel for people like you is pity. Google Dunning-Kruger effect. But wait, this same thing points out that you will never be able or willing to understand what I am saying. It’s just me thinking “There have to be smart people out there.”, but everytime I read posts like yours I lose faith in humanity a little more.
Hey there,
I have to respectfully disagree with you.
God doesn’t make us do anything, we have a free will. We can choose to believe or not. We weren’t made to be robots… We don’t HAVE to live a certain way. We don’t have to believe anything.
Bad things happen because we are human and we make mistakes. We screw up. Sometimes horribly. And sometimes we’re on the receiving end of someone else’s mistake. That’s just going to happen no matter what; God/Budda/Zeus/Higher being or not. We all have our crosses to bear, whether it be depression, anxiety, loss of a loved one, job loss…etc.
It doesn’t matter who we are, where we live, what we do…bad things will always happen. It’s just life. We just have to decide if we want to carry on or not. It’s our choice to die by our own hand.
But I hope the best for you. I really do. If you ever want to talk feel free. I don’t judge, honestly. I respect everyone’s views and decisions. I just hope you don’t mind me throwing this out there.
Take care 🙂
as an atheist, i think it’s possible that a god could exist… but only in such a way that would be completely inconceivable for the vast majority of people.
I will say this though: none of the holy books are even close. They’re all wrong. All currently known religions are wrong.
It’s possible that other people have reached similar conclusions as i have, but it’s incredibly rare for me to actually meet or even encounter any of them.
One thing is for sure: “praying” isn’t going to work. If you want to manifest changes in physical reality, you have to use your physical body, and those of others, to create/manifest them. In fact, that may be the entire point of all physical existence in the universe: to manifest a physical universe. ^^
As for the selfish vs selfless argument… it doesn’t need to be divided into contrasted halves.
It has to be both. Everyone has to care about both themselves and others, at the same time. If everyone could do that, and cooperate toward universally beneficial progress, the world would significantly improve. One of the major obstacles to that, is the people who want to use their advantages to control others, for their own personal gains (i.e. selfish). But being totally selfless often unnecessarily squanders one’s own potential, and dilutes their potency, and gives energy to people who are not really deserving of it, or even qualified to understand how to most appropriately utilize it.
I wish i could bring everyone to my level, all at once, but too many people started from too many different places, and as a mortal being, there’s just not enough time… and as a critically depressed being, who likely doesn’t have much longer in this reality, i just don’t have the energy to explain everything to everyone a thousand different ways, especially while most of them will resist anything that contradicts their preexisting convictions. I would like to be able to put everything i know, into a refined work of literature, so that those i didn’t have time to help, can still learn from what i learned, after i’m gone… but it just seems like an implausible and unattainable goal. Sometimes all i can really do is try to have some faith in humanity, in that they will eventually figure it out for themselves. Meanwhile, knowing what i know (which doesn’t include everything, and will surely be misinterpreted…)… i just want to live in relative peace, and not have anyone initiating aggression against me, just because i don’t want to go along with the ways most people seem to think i should be. I know better, and i won’t comply. I won’t initiate aggression, but i will defend myself if an aggressor removes the other choice. And even so, if i ever have to harm someone to protect myself from their aggression… i will still feel remorse for whatever damage is done, even if i know they deserved it. Why? Because they could have listened, they could have made a different choice, they could have chosen wisely, instead of to destroy. It takes an unhappy person to choose destruction over creation… and most people are only unhappy because they hurt from what other people have created. The only way to correct that, is to stop creating anything that hurts anyone unnecessarily.
Minimize the creation of undue suffering for everyone. It doesn’t matter if you’re imperfect or make mistakes. It matters that we all try; for our own sake, as well as that of the world.