Goodbye mofos, to all of those crying suicide because of a boyfriend or girlfriend just shut up lol seriously at least you were capable of love at one point in your life, you have screws tight and not loose, you’ll survive. I’ve been drinking wine lately to cope with the time until, well, you know. People of SP im not trying to belittle your reasons to die, your reasons don’t matter at all. Trust me, no one cares. You are born alone and will die alone, don’t expect a choir.
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We die alone, but we live among men.
Babies cry because they need their diaper changed.
Should we tell a baby to STFU?
Judging other people says way more about you than it does about them. 🙂
Do you think that martial arts zen masters became a master by being a petty, gossipy person who name calls or insults other people? No. True wisdom means being patient with others (and yourself). Everyone is on their own journey.
We all have problems, and we must solve them together or we die alone.
Don’t we all die alone?
Individual problems get solved by the individual, does a group think committee overcome these dilemmas?
How often does asking for help yield tangible results?
Compare that to fixing things yourself.
I think Icarus is talking about “co-existing in harmony,” “teamwork,” “being co-operative,” “reasonable law and order,” etc. That’s how I interpreted that, anyway.
Yeah, there are issues we might solve in our own time without consulting others, but most things need some sort of prior experience/ability to learn new things to know how to do that (including emotional problems).
@Morris
It depends upon whom you ask for help.
Social services? ADAA? IOCDF? Autism Society of America? Gamblers Anonymous? Narcotics Anonymous? The National Alliance on Mental Illness? Sex Addicts Anonymous? Tourette Syndrome Association, Inc.? Geriatric Mental Health Foundation? Job Accommodation Network ? National Child Traumatic Stress Network? National Domestic Violence Hotline? Suicide Prevention Resource Center? Alcoholics Anonymous?
Groups of people can, and have come together to help solve others’ individual problems.
If you fly too close to the sun with wings attached by wax, they’ll melt, and you’ll plunge into the ocean as your father watches.
Oh Icarus, you tragic Greek drama.
Must we have this conversation in the year 2017?
Please, go smoke a bowl. I’ll kindly front you some kine bud, free of charge. (30-JUN-84).
Vitriol. The name was intentional,. My dreams are too lofty, and I know if I pursue them, I’ll end up destroying myself.
Weed? Not my forte.
Manchester has been in the news recently, I was wondering about you.
The Midlands.
I sometimes consider random posters I meet on suicide sites.
Try to remember you’re in my top 500.
🙂
(I added a smiley face. That proves my authenticity).
Hey. I don’t understand the anger or the weed comment. Did I do something to offend you?
Maybe Morris thought you were someone else who used to visit here. (Originally, I thought so too.) You talk kind of similarly to that person.
@ neph I thought so too.
I don’t use drugs. Someone in my family used to sell weed, but I don’t talk to him much.
Pot is nice, it actually makes me show an interest in my family, but the culture that goes with it, I avoid, so I can’t get it.
That’s a good point, although I’m more focused on getting along with people while I’m alive (I won’t worry about “dying alone” until the moment of death).
I meant this as an addition to my prior comment. We do technically die alone, in a very literal sense, however, dying alone in the greater sense of being of no significance the world and leaving behind a story of hatred and petty conflict, and dying on your death bed are two different things.
I meant you no offense, you remind me of someone else.
I apologize.
If you are a pothead, I can’t really judge. Most of my friends are potheads. The rest are geniuses, and outcasts. Sometimes, all of the above.
One of my friends is so intelligent, that, all alone, he figured out how an atom bomb is built, you see. His IQ is 169. But he drops cigarettes, almost every time he lights one up. If he joins the army, it’s KER-BLAM! Body parts everywhere! Or maybe, they’d just be eradicated! Wouldn’t that be TRAGIC.
That was over the line. I really don’t want him to die. The sadistic lunacy bit has just always been my way of coping.
If I could find a way to earn a living as a cannabis cultivator that’d be perfect.
Profession?
Pot Farmer.
I love it, that’s the perfect answer for when my mother asks “what are you doing for a living these days’?
“Hey m inum, I grow and sell weed. It’s legal. Your dad was a farmer too, right”?
I dunno. I just like the idea of being an herbal farmer.
I like how you call “marihuana” its true name, cannabis.
Causation can vary, and without the adequate coping resources something so seemingly insignificant and perhaps even normal can result in thoughts of suicide. Although their path may be different, the pain experienced and end effect is the same.
“Trust me, no one cares” You miss the point, they are in pain, as are you. They care and focus on their own pain and attempt to alleviate that, just as you care and focus on your pain, hence the misguided post.
I would disagree that relationship issues are insignificant. I’ve spoken with many men and women of varying ages on this issue, and the verdict seems to be that especially when you become attached to somebody/have certain expectations of the other party, a relationship going downhill never fails to f**k you up. Just saying. (It doesn’t matter how many relationships you’ve had/people you’ve been with, either. This is a pain that DOESN’T decrease with age and experience.)
*I’ve spoken with many men and women of varying ages on this subject *
I think we agree. “*seemingly* insignificant” – To me, relationship issues are not insignificant. In fact, any cause which results in pain no matter how inconsequential it may seem is pivotal. Negative experiences often accumulate, sometimes the initial cause is even lost, although the imprint is sometimes carried for life, as are any subsequent associations and triggers.
It was in response to the post content. OP appears to categorise the subject as insignificant, so, seemingly insignificant. If OP holds these opinions I suspect others do too, though I do not and would never belittle someone’s pain, which is what this post is doing. How can you argue with the pain someone feels?
I had a conversation with someone yesterday about how each individual will always see the world through their own specific worldview, which is the result of their genetics and their experiences over time. Everyone is the center of their own universe, although many people still feel bad about negative criticism (like this post).
Ah, the environment’s constant inundation of new stimuli would alter our specific world view, making it fluid and dynamic. Genetics and evolutionary traits always play a role.
When elegantly conducted I respect and enjoy criticism (having my view challenged) and often debate a point contrary to what I believe to either dismiss or reinforce my view. The downside of course is the misperception of position. I believe it’s common amongst INTP’s, although I actually relate on some aspects more to an INTJ.
Yes, I also appreciate constructive criticism. How else can one learn from their mistakes, except by listening, observing and studying?
Hmm. That’s a good technique. I’ve done that before – argue for something I don’t believe, simply to try to “understand the situation from the opposing side.”
Exactly, good to know you have the prerequisite open mind to differentiate between a personal attack and debate, and see the worth. Yes, rather a debate against ourselves with an unwitting conversation participant, to share ideas, thoughts, and theories which are often not yet fully developed. So, criticism (considering biases) can be beneficial.
Looks like we’ll be here to the end.
The End is where the story ends, right?
Unsure whether you were born an asshole or it is the wine talking. Either way, it is unbecoming.
I was worried about you the other day, because you declared you were killing yourself.
Then I come back and find you insulting other users.
You are a piece of work.
As for people’s complaints about their significant others leaving them…
I used to think the same, but then once, when I was 17, I got drunk enough to vomit all over the floor. I woke up at 3 in the morning, I noticed the vomit everywhere and that my pants were for some reason off.
I went to the bathroom to vomit, and I ended up standing there in the dark at 3AM, and I felt… lonely. I had never felt that before. Suddenly, a huge, empty pit opened up inside of me and I felt it, loneliness. Desolation. In that one moment, I felt more sober than I had in my entire life.
The first thing that popped into my mind while I was standing there was “So this is why people kill themselves after they get divorced.”
If you have a trombone you will always be alone.
Good luck on completing your suicide. I wish I was going with you.
Wow did I spark this? I must’ve had too much wine because I can’t really make sense of what I was trying to say reading this now. I only have 3 more days so don’t worry this “asshole” will be out of a lot of people’s hairs. It must’ve been bitterness, who knows, who cares, we share the same oblivion I just want mine on my terms. Sorry if I insulted anyone.
It’s okay. But why do you plan to commit suicide?
I can’t explain it, it just needs to be done for the greater good of my family and for myself. When you reach a point knowing you’ll never become who you thought you were going to be and find yourself incapable of living functionally in this world with no hint of a hopeful change. Read my other posts I believe I explain it in more detail (rambling) in them.
Greater good. I hate this phrase.
Good luck, ShiSui. I hope you’ll find your peace. You’ll be missed.