“Suicide is selfish. It creates so much pain for those left behind.”
…yet noone speaks to the arrogant selfishness of those who choose to reproduce and create so many fucked up humans. Where’s the outcry about that brand of selfishness? I guess it’s overlooked in all the cute baby pictures and other crap. This species and all its crap…the universe will be a better place after we eradicate ourselves.
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I feel EXACTLY this way too.
Life is a pyramid scheme, like subscribers to a monetized youtube channel, or rallying a crowd for political power, the economy needs to keep feeding a vast number of units so as to support the few at the top. This is why that whole ‘pro-life’ movement seeks only to preserve life at quanity, but at no consideration to the quantity of life.
We feel the pyramid at work in having to fit in, fight of every last penny and conform to the dreams of others, while the fatuous jingle of ‘success/being made/fame/fortune, is dangled before us like a carrot in forcing our compliance.
This is a horrible nasty place and it is, in my view, most selfish to force anyone into this life By my personal experience thereof, I’ll not pass this reject for an existence on.
you could talk about how it would be selfish for them to make us continue to live in pain therefore having a comparison within the same subject; suicide, but instead you choose to talk about something that 1) is needed because without it the human race would completely die out (not that i disagree with that) and 2) no one can know or plan for sure, not everyones life sucks and its a really unfair blanket statement that just isnt true. also for the ones where it does suck, it mostly only sucks because of other humans (depending) which unless the problem is the parents, has nothing to do with the parents and yet somehow theyre still at fault? what do you want them to do? raise the whole planet?
I think as you have already discovered, there is a market for that attitude, and it is actually fairly common among the childless.
I’ve decided as a matter of fact, to try and disassemble the mechanisms of cruelty as my new life purpose. I don’t know how I’m going to do it financially, but given that society refuses to let me neglect myself to death, they must consider some value in my remaining, it follows logically right?
So my joy and purpose is to make life difficult for the comfortable, which is not only fun, but cheap entertainment indeed!
It’s just perception. Life sucks for some people, but it’s amazing for others. Everyone views life differently.
As I once said, we are royally fucked as a civilization.
I honestly agree, I would much rather humans just not existing. A reason I’m not going to have kids. Others can have kids if they want, there’s nothing wrong with that. But yeah, I’m not.
Agreed with this post. Whether people are in favor or against having babies, everyone needs to man up and admit that creating new humans is “selfish”. It is an act that is purely motivated by the individual. SelfLESS parents adopt. That’s one way to share the supposed joy of life without creating a new life form who has not been consulted in the decision.
If I ever beat depression and get to the point where I see life as a miracle, I’ll adopt. I’ll rescue a life that would otherwise go down the path of misery we all know too well. Anything less would be hypocritical and selfish. Ooh lookit MY genetic material. No thanks, I prefer to rescue.
I’m pushing 60 and have no children. I would’ve probably been a neglectful father, and with my mental health issues, would’ve made life very difficult for my offspring. Any child in that situation would have difficulty dealing with a neglectful, depressed and anxious father. I am glad that I am not passing this genetic blueprint for depression and anxiety on to a person who “didn’t ask” to be born, as is so often said. It wouldn’t be fair, if fairness even matters…it does to me. While I can’t fathom why anyone WANTS to have children, I can only imagine that if I had reproduced knowing that I was passing along a disposition towards dep/anx, it would have been an extremely cruel and selfish act. Why put someone else through this kind of pain when it’s just not necessary? There are less damaging and selfish ways to fill a void. Unfortunately, that’s not usually part of the decision process of parents who are only envisioning the wonders of parenthood and child rearing.
what about adoption? i get the whole mental health thing that was one of my big ‘why i will not’ reasons. but if one can get them controlled and has a stable, helpful SO, then adoption could still be an option. i mean theyre alive and need a loving family anyway
I wouldn’t adopt or reproduce. I don’t want the responsibility, I’m much too selfish and would only add to a child’s unhappiness. Children don’t need my issues in their life.