I have just lost my daughter today from the exit bag. She did this on Thanksgiving morning. The EMTs got a pulse, and she has been on life support for a week. She actually left her license on her bureau to donate all of her organs, which she is doing as I write this. Please, please anyone out there, do not do this. We tried so very hard to fix her. We needed more time. It is so very, very unfair to those you leave behind. We will never be the same. This is so very unfair… You may be so very, very troubled, but you need to seek help. Others are destroyed by your actions. Do you not realize all the people you are leaving behind? The devastation, the hurt — that they will probably die because of a broken heart? All we every wanted to do is help you. WIN OR LOSE, BUT NEVER GIVE UP TRYING TO GET WELL!!! The author of this book meant this for terminally ill people, and even, then I would not be able to do it. This is the most selfish act you can do, even though you are sick. I HATE this author. He should be punished and arrested. The world is not better off without you. Every one has a purpose on this earth. PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS. GET HELP!!!! I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT MY BEAUTIFUL PRECIOUS BABY GIRL. IT IS SO VERY, VERY UNFAIR. PLEASE GET HELP. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP!!!!!! People love and cherish you.
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Because you have just lost someone close to you, I will only point out one thing. You stated you tried to “fix her” and you “needed more time.” You did not have the power or the ability to fix her. If she was anything like a lot of us on this board, the pain and the guilt she felt while making the decision to end her life was probably unbearable. Is it selfish to commit suicide, or is it selfish to force people to live who live everyday with a debilitating disease that is painful beyond comprehension? In my opinion, it isn’t simply what is right or wrong…what is right for one person may not be right for another. For example, I have been in therapy for 15 years almost, have been on almost every medication imaginable, and actually work in the mental health field. So ya, I’ve helped myself and fought and struggled for years. Maybe it was wrong for your daughter to take her life. No one can say what was truly going on in her mind. But just because it may have been the wrong choice for your daughter does not mean it is the wrong choice for everyone else on this board.
Im so truly sorry for your loss
It breaks my heart to think of the ones who get left behind
My deepest sympathies to you and your family
I wish there was something more i could say or do to help you
at this terrable time.
I’m sorry for your loss. But through her methods, she had obviously thought it through. It was not a rash decision. For many of us here, the only thing making us reluctant to take the final step is worrying about how sad our family will be. I’m sure she felt that way too for a long time before making her move. I hope one day you can bring youself to see that this was what she really wanted and she is suffering no more. I believe that is how she wants you to feel too, instead of thinking it’s a mistake.
Thank you for your reply. I do agree with you. I know how tortured she was, but you have not ideal how tortured we, as a family are. I sincerely believe we will never, never get over this. There are people on this pose that are so calious, but I sincerely appreciate your response. Please do not do this. You have no idea what you leave behind. If only she gave me more time. My daughter was such a happy, happy child and teenager, and I can prove it through photos. I only want to make a difference here. I cannot see another innocent life taken. Please, please read my responses and reconsider. Thank you.
I’m sorry for your loss.
Just been looking at thr press. But can not find any reporte’s of any suicide’s use in a exit bag on thank’s giving.? ( why.? suicide’s use the Exit bag are not common and get press.) Cause i’m interested in the hole Exit bag thing.
Cause alot of people who try it say it’s not relyable.
You say suicide is selfish.? I say the people who call it selfish are selfish. If you Daughter was salfish why she donate her organ’s for.? (if this post is real which i don’t think it is.?) That’s Selfless not selfish.
Maybe she just had enough.
My daughter was the most kind-hearted unselfish humaritarian ever. She was selfish to her family because she knew we could not go on w/o her. She thanked us in her letter and told us we were the best parents she could have had — always trying to help her. You don’t know my family — do not judge.. yes, she was tortured, but I always taught my children, “win or lose, but never give up trying.” For us, it was a fleeting moment. Perhaps, you should reflect on your soul… You cannot even spell correctly!!!!
And why didn’t any press.? Girl killed her self use in Exit bag donate her organ’s.?
Was she a member here.Sorry for your loss.Don’t beat yourself up,sometimes there is nothing anyone can do no matter how much help you give someone
It is not unfair or selfish. Everyone should have the right to keep living or choose to die.
I am very sorry you lost your daughter.
And from your perspective what she chose may feel wrong and selfish.
With more time you may have possibly helped her enough to want to keep living.
Thing is leaving is a personal choice and for whatever reason she felt it was her time.
Since you mentioned she was on life support for your sake maybe she will come back.
For her sake it may not be as welcoming.
For you to condemn suicide as the wrong choice for everyone is rather a bit much.
For myself it is the right thing no matter what my family thinks. And from what I have been through it may be selfish of them to want me to keep shouldering the unwanted load of life to spare their feelings. Especially when their perspective gives them a reason for accepting things.
Again my condolences for your daughter.
I’m sorry for the loss of your daughter but I just wanted to point out one thing.
“The author of this book meant this for terminally ill people”
Yes, maybe he wrote it using the words like Cancer, making it seem like that was it’s purpose. But try imagining what it’s like being inside our heads. No our insides might not be rotting away, but our minds, our sanity and hope are. Depression in a way is too a terminal disease. It might not be killing us psychically but mentally it’s destroying every single one of us.
Sorry for your loss, but for someone to take their own life means they are experiencing terrific pain…. I obviously know nothing about your daughter but I want to explain something from a suicidal person’s perspective…
I don’t consider my suicide a selfish act because although my family might experience some pain or loss, I doubt very very very much that the pain would be in any way comparable to the pain I’ve gone through for the last ten years through depression…. The thing about people who’ve never been depressed is they can’t understand the pain and the misery that we endure….. Because it’s not physical, people who aren’t depressed can’t see the pain, so they don’t appreciate how bad it is…. But let’s say someone was being physically tortured, beaten and maimed in a torture chamber every day for ten years, would you tell them to continue living through this torture if they had the option of suicide, even if you knew the torture might never end until the day they die… would you ask them to live through that pain day after day for the rest of their life because you don’t want them to die? Which is the selfish party in that situtation?
Obviously some people can be treated successfully… I personally feel as though I can’t be because it’s the losses I’ve suffered that make me depressed… The loss of my childhood because I was bullied and beaten since before I can remember… I was raped by my own brother… My dad first played away from home when I was a baby, just to ensure I grew up in a miserable house…. He cut me off from all of our relatives, even my granny who lived next door…. He eventually left my mother and moved out, didn’t even leave me a note…. So you see these miserable b*stards ruined my life, and I can’t get it back…. So I don’t feel like talking about my problems are going to help me, nor is medication, because I lost out on a childhood and so much more that i won’t go into right now…. But I’m depressed because of the effect of all of that and I’m not going to get that back….. So do you think I’m selfish committing suicide, or would you advise I live on and be miserable for the rest of my life, always thinking I could have been so much more?
I so so understand your pain, and I wish I knew you to tell you that you life means something. Thank you so very, very much for responding to me.. I know you are hurting and very, very badly, but nothing compares to the holes in the hearts of the people you leave behind. My daughter said in her suicide note to her father, mother (me), sister and fiance that she could no longer live on. She needed to try harder. The suicide thoughts were only from May 2011. I would have went to the ends of the earth to try to fix her and so would my family. I feel as if you do not have any family support. I would love to speak to you to make you realize that you are a very “special” human being and that you are in God’s plan, even without family support. Please do not do this. You can be so much more. You can get strong (school), and help those that are in the same situation. Wouldn’t you feel satisfied that you saved a life? I know you would. Just because, and I know how devastated you are that you feel your childhood was terrible, does not mean that you cannot make a difference in others. You are just the right person who can!!!!!!! My daughter was on various different meds since she was 15. Obviously, they didnot work, nor did the many phychriatrists or cognitive therapy specialists. I understand that the author of this book meant this for terminally ill people; but you must admit that troubled young people are using these devices; hence, I truly feel they should be policed. If only the people who love you knew what you were up to, would definitely stop this and try to help you. You were born and God has a plan for you. Please, I am begging all of you do not do this. I have such a hole in my heart, I cannot tell you. Today, we made all of the funeral arrangements. My eldest daughter is running on adrenalin now because she wants everything to be perfect. My daughter felt she was imperfect in life, even though she was perfect—in death, she has contributed all of her organs including her corneas, heart valves, veins, bones, tissue, etc. She will save about 15 people. I am so very proud of her, but I WANT HER BACK, even if she were to be disabled. She had the most wonderful man in her life, but she was so, so troubled. It is not fare for you kids, you need to keep on trying. PLEASE DON’T GIVE UP!!!! If I can save one life, then I have done my daughter proud. I will be involved in this going forward to honor my precious baby daughter.
I’m sorry for you loss. What was here name.
I am sorry for your loss, but you have to understand that mentally ill people should be treated with the same rights as a terminally ill person, if they have spent years trying to get better. Because society has such a stigma for mentally ill, they are not treated with the respect and dignity that should be afforded to them, just like physically ill people who are suffering. Anyone who does not suffer from these kind of illnesses will not understand. I agree with the above post, people say it is selfish, because of the people who are left behind, but it is equally selfish to expect someone just to exist and suffer just so their loved ones won’t feel pain. If your daughter had had a terminal illness like bowel cancer, trust me, you would want her to be able to die peacefully and with dignity. The same goes for those who are mentally ill, and have been this way for years. IT is no different. I am sorry for your loss, but she obviously was in too much pain to suffer on this earth any longer.
Horrible…I have been a life-long patient (for over thirty years), rather sadistic experiment, for the “science” of psychiatry. There is no “fix”. It is all just sadistic humans keeping me here so that they can laugh at my perpetual agony. No one, for any reason, should be forced to exist in hell, just for the amusement of others. How completely disgusting this world of humans truly is…
Perhaps it was selfish. I can’t say because I don’t know you, and I don’t know your daughter. I don’t know how long she held on for your sake, suffering what she did so that she wouldn’t hurt you. I know that I do exactly that for exactly that reason. The question for us, or at least for me, becomes “How long?” How long should we suffer before we decide that a little selfishness is finally right for us? How long should we be unselfish before it’s just too much to hold on any longer?
I’m not going anywhere for now, even though I want to. But there may come a time when I no longer have the strength to keep going. Some days it takes everything I have just to show up, shut up, and do what I must to sustain a halfway decent lifestyle. A lifestyle, I might add, that ultimately means nothing to me, only to others. But for their sake, for now, I’m sticking around.
she wasn’t broken