Just wondering if anyone else out there is curious as to what really happens when a person dies. I am not exactly religious so heaven and hell may not apply to me, or they could. I do have nothing against that way of thinking though. But honestly I wanna know some other peoples views. What do you REALLY think happens when you die?
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We had a discussion similar to this a month or so ago…
Personally I’m not entirely sure. I’m not religious, so I don’t particularly buy into the heaven and hell idea – but I cannot prove it wrong per se. I think it could be literally a cease of existence, no more you no thinking no nothing. You just cease to be. Maybe we do have a soul of sorts and there is a heaven-like thing? Maybe you’re reborn in some manner? Maybe you’re forever dreaming? The list goes on…
I think I lean more towards a cease of existence, nothingness. You’re not thinking, you are not afraid, you’re not sad, you’re not anything. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think the other things are slightly possible…there’s hope I guess?
What do YOU think?
Well i’ve thought about many things. The whole hell and heaven thing are possible but I feel as if they’re almost there to give hope you’ll know where your going after death. But since nobody truly knows its crazy to think of the possibilities. I think about animals and plants and the way they die and their bodies can rot back into the earth giving it nutrition. Not to say its happening with my body. But I dont think animals really have spirits/I am not sure if I believe in the whole spirits and ghosts thing anyways. So honestly similiar to you I think everything just stops. We go brain dead so we can’t feel our think. definitly something alike ceasing existence I think.
But one of my teachers was talking about it once and he kept bringing the point up that after we die we go back into life, so there is no point of commiting suicide because you may as well continue through it. I FREAKED OUT AT THE THOUGH OF THIS. Basically he is implying there is noo way out. I really hope were just no longer there. Alive in peoples heart and minds…nothing more.
I think “God” is to the Universe as I think “Mother Nature” is to Earth. It is just the way things are. I don’t see “God” as an omnipotent sentient being, but “God” is what we all are part of as energy before and after we are singular living beings. Energy is not used up, it’s used by changing it’s form, so the energy we are becomes something else when we die. We are all part of everything, we just take a few moments to be an individual, to have the opportunity to feel and wonder about existence before becoming part of everything again.
I liked how you tied energy into that. I really have to agree with you.. your on to something!
Yea, I should start a religion, LOL! I am a scientific person, but I don’t want to mock people who believe in something. I just don’t do churchy stuff, and yes I have read Scientoligy but it just didn’t grab me…
@Wraith: So Pantheism sort of?
I can sort of see that as a possibility and it’s a nice thought.
I’m skeptical about the whole energy and everything is apart of the same energy. Last topic had a whole debate about that heh.
What can I say? I’m a skeptic…
@Rakel: Yea, that’s how I think of heaven and hell – more like they’re there to comfort and enforce rules…not much else. But I doesn’t mean I don’t think there could be some sort of afterlife – I doubt the whole “eternal punishment” thing though…sheesh.
I’m not sure if I believe in the whole ghost or spirit thing – but who knows? Can’t prove the metaphysical… Isn’t that such a harsh thought though? You just stop being, you are no more? Somewhat a relief, somewhat interestingly creepy. You don’t think of the time before you even existed as odd, but you think of afterwards being that way( but I guess you have a taste of life now ).
I understand the scientific stand point that yes dead things rot and then release nutrition. Though I don’t think your molecules and your nutrition is YOU… Sure maybe those molecules/atoms are continually used – but it isn’t like your consciousness is connected to it. Consciousness is from the BRAIN, and no brain means no being – at least as a scientific stand point. I don’t think the teacher had a good point really… You don’t walk around on the grass and feel / think of the dead things that died to become the soil and grass do you? Does that seem plausible to you? Aye, I think death is like the eternal sleep – you no longer are, you no longer worry, no pain…nothingness. You had your life, now it’s time for the forever break from it.
Ok u guys will probably think im lying or a freak or attention-starved ect. believe me ive heard it all but i can see well i guess u would call them ghosts, spirtes whatever u get the idea. Im a median and so is my mom to a lesser extent, now most of the ones i see are hanging around waiting for thier loved ones, but there r a few that r “stuck”. Theres actually quite a few at my school, one girl was shot, another one hanged herself in the drama room and a guy fell down the stairs and broje his neck, just to name a few. Feel free to not believe me, ive only told 5 people in my life, 2 believed me the others told me to go to church cuz i need Jesus
I have had 2 encounters in my life like that, I didn’t see either one but felt them and knew they were there. I don’t, or havn’t talked about it with others. I also sometimes see, or actually feel things in dreams that come true in the next few days but those rarely happen and it’s been a long time since I have had one of those.
I don’t think you’re a freak or crazy. I can’t say your wrong, and I think it’s at least possible. ( Oh is that why you’re afraid of the Queen Mary?? ). Would hate to be those stuck…why do you think they’re stuck? I think they haven’t let go…though you would think those who committed suicide would…guess that can be a lesson for if you’re truly ready for it. I lol’d at those people saying you need jesus.
You can call me crazy but I’ve been having insane deja vu for months…and it’s frequent. I had the random thought what if those theories of an infinite amount of universes and maybe they overlap, or you die and continue in another? But that’s me being crazy heh. I guess I have to have something, since I can’t feel or see ghosts – at least to my knowledge…
Wwiw ok dont freak out but i think u may be an old soul. A reincarnate u know? Deja vu is a big one for them and most can feel atleast something around souls. Yup thats why i cant stand the queen mary, its an overload and almost all r stuck. Most r stuck because it was a quick unexpected death that they dont want to leave, with suicide its usually they cant let go of thier anger ir resentment. Ive only talked to a few mostly when i was younger. I think im an Old Soul too but ive never tried to test it(to chicken haha) thanks for not thinking im a freak 🙂
( not going to freak, don’t worry heh ). Old soul? As in I’ve been around for a long time? Hm, guess my soul is feeling ready to go eh? Yea, the deja vu is freaky and I can NOT get it out of my head…it’s so strange. I may feel souls, and just don’t know? But like I said, not to my knowledge. Ahh, I did not know that – well I didn’t see or feel anything, but maybe that is because lots of people were around? I can understand those who had an unexpected death… I don’t know about those lingering souls of suicide – like I said I think I’d use that to show maybe they felt like suicide was the right choice, but it wasn’t for them and plus they had anger or sadness or something keeping them here and not letting them go on… who knows eh? Oh, you’ve actually talked? Do you remember the conversations? How do you mean test it? If anything you seem like an Old Soul by your definition. Mhm, of course not.
Theres a few ways, u can go to a reading(most physics r complete phonies though) or u can just ask using a weggie board. Im against weggie boards cuz my cousin insulted someone on it and she had a pretty bad couple days, she was pushed off her balacony but was alone in the house she had to back on and apologize haha. The only way to really explain is that its like a window, everyone has one and has the ablitly to open it and let stuffin but most choose to ignire it and keep it shut. My window is slightly open, not so wide i can do other things (slyvia brown google her, now SHE is strong, her windows all the way open haha). The weggie board opens your window up, which is why its so dangerious, NEVER play with a weggie board, just dont, its got some bad stuff going on haha
Hey just saw the new vidoe for RHCP, gotta say i like thier old stuff better
I cannot imagine myself sitting and getting a reading from a psychic heh. Mostly because I do think it is for “entertainment” rather than seriousness – therefore people are just trying to give you some giggles and random advice. Weegie boards, never used one… So what do I know heh? I feel as though I’d subconsciously move it or something heh, probably find it hard to believe it – but hey, doesn’t mean it couldn’t be a spirit or something( I’ll keep my mind open ). Dangerous to have the window open though? ’cause spirits can affect you more? I’ll google her, especially if she’s got a wide open window, probably some interesting things heh. Bad stuff eh? Heh. Though the story of the cousin being pushed off her balcony…is bit creepy/interesting.
I haven’t really watched their new videos. I think I’ve seen one, but definitely not as good as their old ones. I like their new stuff, I mean the band has to change it cannot always be the same and I don’t think it was BAD per se. But I do like old stuff a bit better than the new.
I am hoping for a cease of existence and nothingess.
No more anything for me.
Because no existence will ever be worth being a part of for me even if it is one of the many afterlives proposed by the multitude of human beliefs.
The info is out there if you want to research it and all good sources say the same thing. You’re consciousness survives death. Check out Abraham Hicks on youtube and search death…you’ll get all the info you need. This world has put a negative stigma on death and 150 000 people go every day. Best that your intentions are pure for going and you have good reason. You re emerge with the non physical energy and are helped on the other side. All that truly exists is unconditional love and light…but on this plane of existence we experience contrast and it’s tough to connect with that truth. Good luck!
softsoul,
If you are so sure that “…helped on the other side. All that truly exists is unconditional love and light…”
Then why haven’t you gone there yet !?
“This world has put a negative stigma on death…”
So are you here to suggest death, to have an early death for the righteous people, and for as many people as you can help to understand to forsake life for the better ? Or that, you are trying to say, helping people to die, as the euthanatizing is morally sustained ?
I can almost die or be “dead” for a time and claim I was in heaven or something of the sort…but it’s just a claim. You have to also take into consideration that people like attention and to be unique – plus it could be what your mind does when it’s dying…give you a sense of peace. But like I said, I can’t prove them wrong so doesn’t mean it isn’t possible.
I think a negative stigma is put on death too, but I don’t think it is something to be strived for…More like it’s an inevitable natural thing. It’s no good worrying your whole life thinking about death, accept it and live life accordingly…
Not sure about the whole “righteous” thing, well more than just “not sure”.
Are you against euthanasia, fireflies?
There can be no hard and fast rule as everyone’s individual circumstance warrants a different approach. My comment is clear and simple. Whatever you want to read in to it is up to you…. When I go is my choice and no one’s business but my own. When you go…that’s your business. Life can be simple…act out of love for yourself and have the courage to trust that that process is better than acting out of fear.
Forgot to mention, we’re meant to learn about love on this plain of existence and all lessons we agreed to learn. For the most part, if you go b4 your time, you’ll come back…so it’s not my time. Cheers!
@softsoul So your implying that if you take your own life and it’s not your time you will come back?
It is my understanding that if you cross the spiritual barrier (meaning leave your physical body) before doing so while in the physical, by the laws of incarnations a repeat will be necessary as all that was to be learned while in the physical was not integrated during that life cycle. But for someone to take their own life is their choice, and it is free will. It is not a negative thing, it is a choice. Confusion ensues when we judge, or when we allow the dogma or institutions to govern our free will and choice. It is entirely up to that soul and the circumstances they are faced with at the time. The Universe is here to help us and love us. It’s our resistance to that flow that keeps us from feeling and experiencing that truth because we ‘think’ a little too much.
I guess that would only count if I believed in reincarnation. Hmm.