I want to know if trying to stop self harming for others and not yourself is an effective way to stop. Because right now it’s New Years and i am tipsy, alone and all i can think about is cutting myself, deep!
Please let me know what you think. Maybe you will persuade me?
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solace,
Yes don’t be a hypocrite! Jk but please if your strong enough do not hurt yourself don’t it! Why are you alone?
What is so bad about self harm?
Why stop me when it is the one of the only things that help me through this torturous life?
Also, i am the only one up in my house, everyone is in bed….
HELLO SAFE HARM! the name alone tells you it’s not good for you,
i’ve never done it so i don’t understand, everyone n bed i thought you were like really alone. read shit on here talk to some people on here but don’t hurt yourself.
oops self
It helps me through this life, this suffering. It makes me feel better. So why would it be bad?
If it stops me from seriously hurting myself isn’t that good?
And i am really alone, do you think i could wake someone up and tell them my feelings? NO! haha.
solace,
ofcourse you wouldn’t wake them up,my old lady doesn’t even know i go on here! look i don’t know enough about that stuff it leaves scares don’t it?
Yeah, and if you read my other posts i think they are the most beautiful things in the world. I love my scars and i only regret not having more.
If you are so against self harm, why should i stop?
solace,
are you being serious? and yes i’m agaist it it’s like taking a hammer to your car cause your upset about something then you ride around in a piece of shit. show up to work or graduation in a clucker!
Of course i am serious. I don’t think we can connect one this. It is one of the most amazing and awesome feelings in my life. To feel the rush of cutting myself, to feel the happiness of finally doing it after so much anticipation.
I guess if you have never felt the depths of anguish that lead you to actually harming yourself then YOU will never realise it’s potential.
relating a shitty car to the essence of self harm is a naive and ignorant thing.
Maybe society has just conditioned us into believing self harm is wrong, even though it has been evident throughout history in diverse countries. Maybe this tells us that a percentage of the human race has survived by using this method. So if you value life so much, why not rejoice self harm?
solace,
So you didn’t like my analogy? I was pretty shity I guess, you are really into this stuff! Look I just don’t like for people to hurt themselves, including me, I’m self-destructive in other ways and all it does is makes matters worse.
@rocketman – I completely agree with your logic and i’m pretty much in the exact mind set as you regarding self harm – i just don’t ‘get’ it (actually tried it when i was a teen and found it to not be for me)… but that said, and getting back to the point – despite it being hypocritical to persuade others to stop something you’re doing yourself – perhaps it can help solace to search for the correct reasoning among like-minded people to find a solution to ending the behavior – provided that solution is a positive one – and by positive, i mean, no longer self harming and not attempting/committing suicide.
alternative dawg
Dawg,
bravo!
Okay so just to clarify, i was NOT looking to be persuaded in a way that i would stop any actions, more i would be persuaded by mindset to think differently. Also, self harming doesn’t always lead to suicide or attempting it.
I just want to know what is so wrong with self harm. And why do people perceive it as such a negative act, that is all.
Hello Solace,
I understand the need to self harm…but the act of doing so has incredible repercussions. I tried cutting as a teen as well…didn’t get me what I wanted…answers. All it got me was negative attention and ridicule. I got smart and found a new way to self harm…one that was not likely to land me in the nut hut or destroy my future potential.
No you won’t always feel the way you do right now. But the scars you are making will haunt you for the rest of your life. At job interviews, meeting new friends, getting to know a new partner…….and your gonna be a real hit in the nursing home…ayup.
The whole problem with self harm is this….haven’t you been hurt enough? Don’t you think you deserve to suffer LESS?? Why not address the issues that are causing the pain?
I dunno…old woman here
Peace
Amakua
@solace – you can convince yourself and spin it any way you like – the only “potential’ to self harm is damage to a perfectly good vessel – self harm – logically and practically – is breaking something that isn’t ‘broken’ … fire can warm us but that don’t mean i wanna burn – rocket’s analogy is spot on – the naivety is that someone who has been conditioned otherwise will recognize it as practical – it’s not about what society thinks/accepts that makes it right or wrong – society could really care less about anyone’s well being or condition on the micro level – they ‘care’ in the abstract but when it comes to looking at the millions of individuals – they’re overwhelmed and do their best to just ignore it.
the fact is throughout human history is it survives DESPITE using this “method” – and who’s to say in prerecorded history that those who adopted such behavior did in fact actually survive – the world is littered with races and species that did not adopt the more viable means of survival
Understandable you will disagree with everything i say – and THAT, i “get” – because i’ve learned that self harmers have made a completely different association in regards to damaging themselves and how they process pain – in truth it’s something i cannot comprehend – so please don’t take my comments as a negative – i’m more trying to enlighten rocketman as so the neurological difference in how the action is processed – there is no “right and wrong” – but it makes people like me and rocketman sad and hurt for you to know that you are doing something that can have long term ramafications well beyond the time that you feel like this is a viable path to follow.
I hope you find a way to stop – but if you can’t – i understand – but applying your experience to help others to stop is worthy
clarity dawg
Hello Solace,
I understand the need to self harm…but the act of doing so has incredible repercussions. I tried cutting as a teen as well…didn’t get me what I wanted…answers. All it got me was negative attention and ridicule. I got smart and found a new way to self harm…one that was not likely to land me in the nut hut or destroy my future potential.
No you won’t always feel the way you do right now. But the scars you are making will haunt you for the rest of your life. At job interviews, meeting new friends, getting to know a new pa.tn ,,er…….and your gonna be a real hit in the nursing home…ayup.
The whole problem with self harm is this….haven’t you been hurt enough? Don’t you think you deserve to suffer LESS?? Why not address the issues that are causing the pain?
I dunno…old woman here
Peace
Amakua
Self harm is ineffective, immature, and inconsistant with healthy living.
It doesn’t solve any problems.
You are not working out your issues by cutting skin.
You could work out physically and cut muscle and get healthy and still feel
the pain and natural pain killing high of cutting, while living positive.
You could have a tone sexy body and enduring tested and tempered
mind that can face any problem but instead self harm produces an embarassing molested shell and a fragile mind that runs to its bad habit at every uncertain moment.
Next time you want to cut try a pull up. Shit hurts when you are out shape!
Hey Solace,
If selfharming helps you to cope, well its better than not coping at all. If you want to stop cutting because of others, you could try the butterfly thing. Everytime you want to cut draw one small butterfly on your arm or anywhere, give them names and thebutterflyproject for more.
And
I think if you love people like very very much and all and you have many supporters well it could work but you should do it for yourself in first place.
@end – i disagree with your choice to call it “immature” – but agree with pretty much everything else … self harm is a problem multiplier – not a problem solver – and it is short sighted – but i think it’s also a type of addiction which we know addictions defy normal logic – as with most addicts – they’ll ‘quit tomorrow after one more fix” not seeing the long term damage – only focused on this moment and this need. most addictive behavior is only a band-aid or temporary reprieve from the long term underlying issue – band aids don’t fix a wound – they only cover them over for a while but they’re still there.
arithmatic dawg
What are the long term affects of self harm then?
If you’re going to say regret or being ashamed of your scars etc, well no. As an individual, i love the look of them and i don’t care what others think so why would i ever regret them?
And exercise like that is not an option for me, for reasons i don’t wish to talk about.
My main discussion point was if I stop cutting for others, whether it is an effective idea especially when i don’t see a need in stopping at all.
Like Saph said, at least i am coping.
You guys have called cutting immature, unhealthy, addictive and haunting, but no one has told me WHY?
Also, @Amakua2309 you said i won’t always feel the way i do now, countless professionals have told me that the depression i have now will most likely be with me for the rest of my life. I have worked hard on my reasons for feeling this way and still i feel like this. Sometimes i don’t even need to feel in pain to cut myself.
So just because your decisions have hurt you and you regret them, don’t generalise your situation and outcomes to others so easily.
I agree that cutting is addictive, but why is it so bad when it’s such an effective coping mechanism?
Hello Solace,
I have suffered from Melancholia since birth. I have been told similiar crap from psychiatrists. Believe what you will. You asked for opinions…you got them. In the end you will do as you please. I just happen to know that you will not feel like this in a few years…whether better or worse will be determined by you…but nothing in life stays the same…not even you. Your choice. But remember…you are coping…I am healing…big difference. 🙂
Amakua
Yes, i guess it all comes down to perception.
You believe you will get better, which is great. But i don’t really care if i do. I am indifferent and i know my body, i understand it.
Ten years ago my depression was worse, and although now i still feel depressed i am coping better through many ways. So i would perceive that as a form of self healing too.
And yes i wanted a discussion, which is great but you should be aware that when you include yourself in a discussion it is common for others to reply to what you have said. Keep that in mind
🙂