not sure if…

…and it all comes down to how people are taught to form expectations: incorrectly.

Expecting perfection doesn’t make sense. It is irrational.

So if that’s why you’re depressed, then your depression is not rational, but irrational. You could fix that by adopting rational thought methods. In that case, the solution is to think differently. It can be fixed.

But when you have a fucked up life, it’s almost always because of stuff you can’t fix, that is beyond your control… even if some of it is actually your own fault, due to accidents or bad decisions. If what is wrong comes from the past, but cannot be presently changed, or changed in the future… then there is no way to solve it, no matter how or what you think. That is “real depression.”

There are also those who have a “chemical imbalance,” where no amount of actively altering their own thought patterns, or applying actions to themselves and their environments, are going to stop them from feeling inexplicably depressed, just because their brains are producing the wrong amounts of chemicals. Sometimes meds can help with that… but it’s not just going to go away, and it will likely need perpetual management, and likely cannot be solved with any conclusive finality.

Of these 3 categories of depression types, the first, born from fallacious thinking and excessive expectations, can be not just solved after the fact, but can even be avoided entirely, in the first place, by teaching people how to think, and how to form realistic expectations of themselves and the world. But due to the established paradigms in place, this doesn’t happen… and so a lot of irrational depression and subsequent extended impacts, are allowed, even forced to occur, simply due to people refusing to accept reality, and instead, opting for a fantastically false perspective of the world, based largely upon sheer ignorance and fear.

There is treating symptoms, and then there is curing the source of those symptoms. And then there is preventing the source of those symptoms from ever occurring in the first place.

We all “know” which solution is best… and yet, due to widespread irrationality, that solution is rarely used to its potential. And that ruins lives. And not much seems to be changing, in that regard… so we can expect this type of thing to continue indefinitely.

My comment wasn’t any longer than yours.

it’s silly for anyone to be “depressed” over imperfection.

I learned not to make promises i couldn’t fully expect to keep. I learned not to romanticize my own reflection.

I know exactly how it feels to both love, and hate, so much that it is physically and mentally unbearable. Sometimes all i can see is red, and all i can feel is fire or acid in my veins. Hellish fury, infernal rage, spikes and waves, and it is almost completely uncontrollable. When it comes again, all i can do is brace for impact and try not to let it do what it wants. Sometimes i’m not even sure why i should even try to control it.

I don’t know about “craving betrayal,” but i constantly crave vengeance, retribution, and disproportionately severe retaliation to any transgressions that i find unreasonable or unjustified. But if someone makes an honest mistake, or at least has acceptable reasons, then i can’t be too harsh with them… or rather, i shouldn’t be too harsh with them.

You’re right about one thing, though: there will always be a “distance” between all of us on SP. None of us will ever “truly know” each other… which is one reason it’s so important to say what you mean, and mean what you say; we’ll never understand, otherwise. And even when we do understand some things, no one will ever fully understand another person in entirety. But maybe it’s not necessary to “fully understand” another person. Maybe close enough can be close enough, in the absence of the possibility of “perfection.”

“Oh, and clevername why would anyone want to be depressed? Haha.”

I know this is going to sound bizarre (because it is), but you might be surprised… some people actually do enjoy sorrow, even to the point of creating it out of otherwise “perfect” situations. It’s baffling. Maybe people who aren’t forced to be sad or terminally depressed, find some pleasure in voluntarily, but temporarily, and while in control of the degree and amount, experiencing it. Maybe those whose lives are just wonderful, get sick of the monotonous jubilance, and need some sadness to mix things up. Who knows. But i’ve definitely noticed that some people seem to be addicted to sorrow… as if they simply crave it, and make choices to produce more of it in their lives, when they feel it is lacking. I tend to try to avoid associating with people like that, for what should be obvious reasons. But sometimes i step back from this site and reexamine it, and realize that there does seem to be quite a lot of people here with that exact issue, who seem to crave sorrow, and actively, if subconsciously, make choices to produce it… and then they come here and cry about it. But i’m probably just being hypercynical… maybe they’re simply irrational, and don’t realize they are causing their own problems. That’s obviously not everyone. It’s clear there are others, who, like myself, have wound up in unmanageable situations, due mostly to the impacts of choices made by others, which are beyond our control.

Dude… fuck off.

You know exactly why you shouldn’t have posted that bullshit.

see previous comment.

when i say “see previous comment.” it means the one of mine directly preceding that one.

What amazes me is that you seem to get some sort of benefit out of antagonizing someone who thinks your beliefs are ridiculous.

Crusades much?

The word “persecution” ring a bell?

How about “hypocrite?”