Im a bisexual girl n i have a struggle with fitting in with society cause i dress in boy clothes n stuff. Just another struggle i have to face. People look at me n judge they don’t understand. They look at my cuts n judge me. They look at my skin. Im native and i get marginalized for all these things. I get pushed aside. I battle addiction cause i feel that getting fucked up is better than dealing with this fucked up world… You know what i like this site because everyone on here is open minded i like that. Â U guys are all very unique.i dunno if i die today at least i would know i didnt die alone.
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I know how hard it can be to be different in this mad world. But, more often than not, we end up stronger and more proud of ourselves when we manage to find peace and some kind of hapiness. It’s good that you’re here and that you feel less alone with this web site. Please write as much as you need and know that who ever you are, you are not alone and you can have a good life.
Where do you live, Saudi Arabia? If you live in a Western country, I find it highly unlikely you’re suffering real discrimination or bullying. Are you sure it’s not in your head?
It could be worse. You could have a real problem–you could be genitally mutilated like me.
Apparently Lawrence has never been outside the little box he lives in. Don’t mind him.
@LN
lol and you’re crying about victim mentality?
What unreasonable point did I make?
Answer me that before you leap to her defence. I’m trying to get her to have some perspective. If she lives in a really crap country like Saudi Arabia, then I would understand. I live in the UK and my country promotes homosexuality and bisexuality as desirable. There are laws in place that prohibit homophobia.
I do not know what point you’re trying to make , aye. But then you subscribe to feminism and think there’s a patriarchy, so I don’t think I’ll be getting any rational discussion from you.
dont listen to every one else. cause you are you. you are special. you are unique. there is only one you in this world. we all have hard times. some worse than others. promise you will keep strong.
I’m pretty sure people experience a lot of bullshit in our modern world, only compounded by assholes who want to minimize or trivialize the suffering of others because they can’t relate to it. You know, like native americans living in reservations being told they’re lazy drunks. It stimulates a lot of callousness when someone comes in saying the only folks who experience hard times or discrimination are [insert demographic here]. Personally, I think those people can gtfo and shut up if they have nothing constructive to say.
There’s a difference between someone perceiving discrimination and discrimination actually occurring.
Gtfo and shutup you misogynistic prick. There, I said it directly. Come back when you have some fucking empathy for other people that aren’t identical to yourself.
How am I misogynist?
I’d like you to back up your statement. Go on. I shall wait for you by my toaster until you are ready.
That’s like a piece of wood asking how it’s related to a tree. Not going to dignify distorted perspectives with any sort of answer, but I will chortle at your cloistered worldview. You seem a lot like a narcissist suffering though a bout of narcissistic rage, imo.
So what you’re actually saying is you just called me a pejorative term but can’t prove how I fit the description of that pejorative term.
As I suspected. This is good toast.
No, I just don’t care enough to point out obvious realities to someone totally blinded to them.
Well if it’s obvious, then you should very easily be able to explain it.
There is nothing misogynistic I have said on this site, so I’m baffled at how you came to such a conclusion. Could it be projection?
Honestly, I just don’t care enough. I’ve met people like you, and you’re a dime a dozen. If I wanted to waste my life talking to people like you, I’d just walk outside my door and flag some pedestrian down. Why would I do it on an online forum? That sounds boring. Besides, this post isn’t about you, so why are you here trying to make it about you?
I barbequed bacon once on my grill. The grease from the bacon dripped onto the charcoal and started a nice little fire.
Alcohol and barbequing go well together, but alcohol and fire – not so much.
I wonder if I could grill toast on the barbeque grill?
So you don’t care enough, but you took all that time and effort to come back to this thread to call me a misogynist, a label you can’t uphold why you called me with evidence.
I haven’t tried to make it about me. Go back and read my post. Interpretation skills, laddie.
Why are you still here? Begone, narcissist, back to your narcissistic thread. Leave the good folks of SP in peace.
Good folks? Apart from one very nice chap called Slinky, all I’ve received from you guys is abuse.
I’m not going to judge all people who frequent this site by your behaviour though and that’s why I shall stay. I have faith that not all people on here are as abusive and unreasonable as you.
It’s not Lawrence that made this section about himself, it was you lot. You idiots.
I thought he provided some advice that could put the girl at ease. You live in an open tolerant society.
It sounds like you have issues with your sexuality and are blaming others for it. I know how you feel.
Let’s see, the very first comment you posted on this thread was calling into question the OP’s experience, and comparing it to the horrible fate that you’ve suffered, suggesting that the OP is not truly experiencing any sort of discrimination compared to your own. That’s the essence of narcissism. And you, sir, are an asshole for doing that. Get lost and go back to your hole.
I agree (obviously) with @lorax exactly, that’s why you think everyone is offering you abuse @LN. You can’t question someone’s problems and make the whole post about you and THEN, when people point that out, acuse US of abuse.
That’s not what the SP is about dumbass.
If you’re not allowed to question someone, how can we expect them to get better?
So if someone says ‘I’m going to commit suicide’, your recommendation is to just say nothing or agree? That seems to be your reasoning.
I was trying to bring some perspective to the discussion. This is why I asked her if she lived in Saudi Arabia. If she did, I would definitely take no issue with the reality of her experience.
I’m not calling her a liar, I’m trying to get to the truth. Are you saying that every suicidal person has legitimate concerns and nobody makes mountains out of molehills? Are you really suggesting that?
Wouldn’t it be worthwhile to try to make someone who perceives discrimination that either doesn’t exist or isn’t a huge problem, gain some perspective? Or do you think indulging someone and making their what might be insignificant problem into a huge deal is a good form of therapy?
No, you were trying to make it about you. That’s all. That’s called pathological narcissism. And you’re continuing to indulge in it right now. That’s not healthy.
Are you saying you are a telepathist, lorax?
Because if you are, you abilities aren’t working right now. That was not my intention. Unless you have proof that was my intention, it’s all speculation and your assertions are unconstructive.
It sounds like you’re taking out your anger on me. Please do not do this. Tell us about your problems. Talk to me.
@op: I can relate a lot with what you’ve said, and I apologize about the above exchange. I know it has very little to do with what you’ve posted – the world isn’t full of horrible people, although there are a good share of them out there. You seem like good people, reading your past postings, and you care a lot about your friends, which sometimes makes all the difference in the world.
@lawrence: I’m ignoring you from this point on because interacting with you is totally nonconstructive.
@lif3blow5 you’re never alone.
And may I add that living in a Western country does not fucking mean there’s no homophobia or abuse or judgements because of sexuality or looks. The world is full of douchebags everywhere god. Who cares if she’s living in Saudi Arabia, the US or fucking antarctica, if she feels judged it’s because she has been and I can totally understand!
“if she feels judged it’s because she has been ”
No, it just means she feels judged. She may have been judged, but the fact she feels judged doesn’t prove it happened. Sorry, that’s a very illogical thing to say.
She probably most certainly has been, society is fucked up. Pardon me for being illogical.
I’d like for you to explain to me how I’m a ‘narcissist’? Is the basis for this accusation because I tried to get someone to have some perspective by comparing a perceived problem with a very real problem like genital mutilation?
I apologise if I offended anyone, but I stand by my words. Maybe I just need to allow you all some time to reread my post, reflect and interpret it the way I intended it to be interpreted.
@LN, a “very real” problem? Did I quote that right? Does that make other problems “not real at all” or “made up”?
No, it doesn’t. There are other real problems. The OP’s problem may be real, but it may just be a perceived problem. If she can give some instances of real discrimination, that would be helpful because then we can describe it accurately as a real problem, as opposed to a perceived problem.
Do you understand what I am saying?
That doesn’t mean a percieved problem can’t be a source of depression, I think any type of problem that makes you feel as is if you need to fucking poste it on a suicide blog is important enough. The last thing I would want would be searching for a bit of support and only getting questioned. I just think we should show some respect, like I would for your problems, and I hope you would for mine.
I am a homosexual and I believe I understand how she feels, I just feel her hate is misguided. She feels bad because she feels wrong about her sexual desire and acts, therefore she is passing the blame onto others when actually, she lives in a tolerant open society.
Yes, I believe this may very well be the case. You’re saying she feels ashamed of her bisexuality, even though society accepts it? I could quite believe that.
Absolutely. She would never say this though as women never take any responsibility for anything.
Why should she have to feel bad? From what I read I don’t think she feels her sexuality is the way of the devil or something like that. Why can’t she simply feel neglected because people don’t accept the real her? Because there are some seriously fucked up people out there. Have you guys ever gone outside? I’m not perfect either, everybody judges. I know I’m on this page because of some reason. And it’s not because “society is so nice and tolerant and open-minded”. And if that’s your case, I’m happy for you and the nice people surrounding you.
I didn’t say she should feel bad. I was saying that I think she feels bad because she thinks society doesn’t accept her when actually, society is really accepting of these sort of things today so she doesn’t have to worry about anything at all. I go outside regularly to buy milk, so don’t give me that. Society will accept her. There are support groups and all sorts.
Do you feel bad for being homosexual??
Yes, homosexuality and bisexuality is an abnormality. It is a deviation from the norm and I don’t wish to tell people it is normal or healthy.
I once heard an enabler say, “I’ve never seen him hit her, how do I know she didn’t get those bruises by falling on a doorknob?” I shit you not. It’s a very narcissitic thing to do, and kind of expected anymore.
Lorax, you are a fat sexually deprived loner. Get a grip. It seems to be you making everything about you. Look at you “I once heard.” I all about I.
So you’re saying we should lock men up on the basis of a woman’s word?
So all rape allegations are rape and we should have no trial by jury and no need for evidence?
Help me out, because I want to understand your logic.
I’m actually not fat at all, and I’m not making this about me. But I bet you anything you have the same IP address as lawrence. Get a life.
This is my real name and I have no different accounts. Stop libelling me.
I’m not Lawrence at all. I’m ShowusyerwillE. I simply came on here, seeking to create a thread about my own issues and was shocked at the abuse towards the poor guy. Go and play with your Japanese manga toys and leave me alone.
@SUYW, you’re joking, right?
Oh my god…
Purplepain? Sounds like a large dildo brand. Something you’re not telling us?
That’s not constructive, ShowusyerwillE. I have to admit, it does, though. Thinking about dildos makes me depressed since I have a numb dildo for a penis because I was genitally mutilated.
Nobody cares, though, so I don’t expect any sympathy.
Yeah, what about you Mr. ShowusyerwillE?
My name goes way beyond your huge dildo fantasies, sorry.
@LN, still wanting more attention? You made a post about that earlier right? I sympathize for you. I won’t sympathize though when it seems you mention it for your own benefits without yourself having sympathy for others.
God, I wish SP had an ignore feature.
You have an ignore feature. It’s called logging out.
The Lorax (if past posts of his are anything to go by) has broken many woman’s hearts and smashed plenty of boxes in his time. Plus, I’ve never seen a chubby mofukka cut wood before.
But @lifeblows, it’s always good to experiment or “test & adjust” as we said at my old job. You’ll find your own preference in time, and if not – y por que no los dos?
(I kind wish SP had a like feature.)
Are you saying that you cut yourself? Why?
You say people look at your cuts and judge you. Are you surprised by this? I mean, if I cut lots of scars into my arm and people saw this, I would expect them to see it and be shocked. Your problem seems to be with how people react to your cuts. How do you want them to react? People who self-harm are unwell and that’s why they are often institutionalised, because they are a danger to themselves.
Have you thought about checking yourself into a mental institution or just seeking psychological counselling?
@purplepain
I didn’t mention it for my own benefit. That’s like saying the OP mentioned cutting herself to get attention. Actually, maybe that’s the case, but remains to be seen.
I never said I didn’t have sympathy. But you can have sympathy for someone who doesn’t actually have any real problems. Someone can be very depressed even though they have nothing to be depressed about. There’s no harm in trying to get someone to have some perspective.
Did you just ask why she cuts herself?
Maybe she means that people turn their back on her suddenly when they see her scars after trying to socialize with them for a while. She wrote a fucking paragraph, that doesn’t make US experts on her! Or have the right to question her for any reason.
And here I thought we could all relate to the feelings of others.
@lif3blow5 It’s true though if you need help you should seek help. I think I need help as well but don’t have the guts to seek it. I hope you keep your chin up and can eventually get things to work out better for yourself. It’ll be for the best.
It’s because she only wrote a paragraph that I require further information if I’m going to be able to help her. By your logic, psychologists and psychiatrists have to sit and remain mute in front of a client. We have comments here for a reason.
“Maybe she means that people turn their back on her suddenly when they see her scars after trying to socialize with them for a while”
Maybe. That’s a possibility. Don’t you think you should allow her to speak for herself, though? I did ask her and not you, because only she knows why she cuts herself.
Let it be her who replies to this, then.
So why did you make it sound like that kind of depression is less important than a “real” depression?
I think I nailed it with my comments earlier. She feels bad about her sexuality, not society.
What if she doesn’t?
Well there is a difference between being depressed because you have been raped or mutilated and depressed because you’re a size 8 instead of a size 6.
Wouldn’t you agree, or are you conflating all ‘depression’ under one umbrella?
Of course she mentioned it to get fucking attention. That’s what writing a post is about, calling out to see what kind of support other people can offer. Sorry if I’m getting the SP all wrong here.
If she doesn’t then she should get a grip as society is not exactly harsh on homosexuality, these days. I am a homosexual, I am well aware of this.
No, I meant lying about cutting herself in order to get attention. That’s a possibility too. Or she may cut herself but only to get attention.
I think I’m gonna shut up now.
Do you think the Labour Party are going to feel some purple pain after the Euro elections? I do. Vote UKIP.
What’s UKIP?
Right now I am just wandering a little around, but you made me think of the Eurovision Song Contest. This year it was won by a dragqueen with a beard. Conchita proved it possible and proved that not all people dislike someone for being somewhat different. Well, just one of those stories that there are some amazing people out there. And people who care. (In case you want to hear the song you can find the performance here: http://youtu.be/SaolVEJEjV4 )
It’s a party for real men. Lead by a very classy gentleman with supreme dress sense, wit and confidence.
I just looked them up. Oh, THAT guy. I’ve seen him. He’s amazing.
“purplepain
MAY 18, 2014 @ 16:18:54
She probably most certainly has been, society is fucked up. Pardon me for being illogical.”
Probably being the operative word.
no i live in canada and its ok to by gay here and im a proud to be one. as an individual but i still get judged and bullied because people are still assholes. people make fun of people who are like me cause they think its wrong or gross.i just wrote the post cause its just another struggle on how fucked up this world is. im aboriginal an native American. in canada we are discriminated and marginalized . i would give you a history lesson but i feel that you guys have the time to look it up yourselves. l dunno start with residential schools. that happened a awhile ago but it affects my people today. what im trying to say is that this world is fucked up. dont need logic to figure that out. im not trying to get attention im just getting it off my chest and i thought i could express myself on this site but i guess not…
Don’t even think about listening to these assholes who think the world is beautiful in western civilizations. I knew you felt proud to be gay.
I can totally relate to what you’re feeling and understand why you posted. KEEP POSTING! Best wishes, xx.
How can you feel proud to be gay? I’m a homo and I don’t feel proud at all. Something went wrong for me. I want to fuck men in their rectums and kiss them. This is pretty abnormal as it’s not even real sex. I have no desire to be proud of this.
Purplepain is a homosexual. He is seeking out ass.
Oh, I hope you didn’t take my comment as saying all is beautiful in Western societies. I was just trying to share something beautiful; and the hope that some kindness is out there in the world as such.
The world is fucked up in many ways, but do you think the majority finding something aberrant abnormal is fucked up? Do you think listing Downs Syndrome as an aberrant genetic disorder is fucked up, for example?
You cannot expect everyone in the world to approve of everything you are and do. As a civilised society, all we can do is abide by a basic moral code, such as do not kill. As long as you are not being oppressed, do you really think this is a big deal? If you are truly happy with what you are, then there is no reason to be depressed.
Hey lif3blow5, I hope things get better for you soon. Here in the UK it’s ‘ok to be gay’ but that doesn’t tend to stop homophobia; some people, as you say, are just assholes.
I just wanted to say – if you’ve not already done so, Bell Hooks is a fantastic academic writer who covers all things gender, sexuality and race related, and how having an identity that isn’t the ‘norm’ can leave us open to discrimination, especially in the West when everybody is so heavily labelled and categorised.
Anywho, take care, and all the best.
“especially in the West when everybody is so heavily labelled and categorised.”
As opposed to the East … where people are hanged from cranes for being homosexual. Oh, Lord.
Wow, this is a huge amount of narcissistic rambling between two people who are actually the same, on some poor girl’s thread. I feel sorry for people who come to this site sometimes.
It must be confusing for newcomers, but for those of us who’ve been here awhile… well… I can’t deny that it’s entertaining.
(I prefer interacting with the trolls who are so clueless that they think they’re trolling me, when in reality it’s the other way around.)
I think it’s kind of sick, tbh. It’s hard to have any kind of legitimacy in interaction when you get idiots running around like this clown.
I’m not new and I’m still confused..
It is entertaining, at least I’m finishing off my day laughing at these ignorants. But it is really sick as well what happened on this post.
I’ll second purplepain: don’t even think about listening to this narcissist with his twin nicks. 😛
Yes, because everyone you disagree with is the same person.
@Lorax If somebody encounters trolls passing themselves off as legitimate, yeah, it’s annoying. It’s better to laugh at them than be irritated, though.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people have appeared on this site with fake stories and personas. It’s the way of the Wild, Uncensored Interwebz. Attention Seekers Galore.
Everyone, please refrain from feeding the trolls. They will get bored and move on to another site if you ignore them long enough.
As for Lif3blow5, keep being you. Never feel the need to fall in and confrorm to something you are not. Your an extremely admirable gem to stand up among adversity and go against the grain to maintain who you turly are.
Society is will never understand individualism. People will judge, but let them. Their judgment is out of their ignorance and own insecurities and they play no viable role in the progression of understanding among our species.
Never feel marginalized about your skin color. I share the same trait of being half native but my appearance strongly resembles asian heritage. I too have been at the seat of racism and intolerance, but you how I feel about it? I pity them and wish them the best in life and move on with my own.
If you ever need a ear, im here and more than willing to give my support. The only lesson we can take from our experience with intolerance is to reciprocate our understanding and openness with others so they too do not have to feel alone. So others can find comfort in this world that people understand them and understand their pain.
Take care.
I sometimes hear people use the word ‘normal’ as the same as usual or common or maybe even average.
I try to oppose this view of what it means to be normal, because normal is be what one ought to be – NOT what people THINK one ought to be!
Normal means conforming to the norm, which is what is most common. If 99% of people are heterosexual, heterosexuality is normal, which makes sense when you consider that procreation facilitates the cycle of life.
It is conforming to the norm, but simply stating that a norm is the same as what is statistically common is not neccessarily the right interpretation of norm. That’s my point. And history has shown, that what the common people think, is sometimes very far from what is right – which is the real ethically norm one ought to conform to.
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