Well, in the case of pets, we tend to force lethargy on them. We tend to tether them to ourselves, drag them into our boring lives. So it isn’t really their fault. One of my dogs is obese and barely moves. There are no obese wolves, though, and never have been. Do you want to know why?
Anyway, thanks for what you said. It could be apathy or lethargy. But I call it laziness. I like to beat my critics to the punch.
Hey miss fish, this might sound lame but try and start with little things that aren’t too hard to achieve. My depression started a routine if inactivity and the more times I practice doing something the easier it gets. Im hoping that I wake up one day and im actually living a life.
Dont be down on urself, I think we all have a love/hate with inertia
Soco: I have tried doing little things. But I never stick with them. With the vast majority of things, there comes a point where I inevitably stop caring, or get distracted, and give up. I never finish anything I start. Be it writing projects, exercise regimens, diets, study plans, books, games, the turning over of new leaves in general.
This isn’t me counting myself out. This is me making an educated guess based on an almost two-decade-long, consistent pattern. The sun rises every day. It’s a pattern that we consider reliable. Nobody goes to bed thinking “well, hopefully the sun will decide to rise tomorrow” or “maybe something else will rise instead.” No. We know the sun will rise because it always does.
I know that I will fail in my attempts to help myself, because I always do. It’s a reliable pattern. And I’m glad that I figured that out, because now I don’t have to further waste any of my time or energy.
Nevertheless, I’m very thankful that you gave me what advice you thought was best. I hope you make it. It would be a shame if you didn’t.
Hey whiskered fish, I hated change more than anybody, but over time I learned to adapt, I had to in order to make it through life. Fighting depression and anger is hard and I can honestly say I know how you feel, it drains you emotionally and physically to the point of feeling lazy, and I still have episodes. But this is something you can overcome too. I refuse to lay down and give anybody the satisfaction of seeing me fail, including and especially myself. And I’m not sure if this will make sense to you but it does me, because more than anything I wanted to love me, I’ve gotten to the point of liking me, Now after everything I’ve been through, I’m 47 years old and I haven’t posted this before and only a couple of people in my circle know this, but I’m starting up my own t-shirt printing and graphics business. I should be up and running in about a month, and I will succeed. I’m only sharing this with you because I don’t want you to give up on a very special success story, and that’s you !!!! We’ve all been told we can do whatever we set our minds to, and that’s true. I’m doing what I’ve set my mind to, and so can you. Set a goal for yourself and go for it, the smallest successes feel so good, and lead to bigger ones, I don’t know you personally, but I believe in you, believe in yourself. And you will succeed. 🙂
Noneedforaname, I was hesitant to answer this, because I’ve read your posts, and if it isn’t out of line for me to say, you have truly been through hell.
I wanted to give your comment the in-depth reply that it deserves. And I’m so sorry that I can’t. I just wanted to say that I wish you the best in your T-shirt printing business. From what I’ve read of your posts and comments, I believe you can do it. You don’t seem to be the kind of person who gives up.
I want to believe that I can succeed, but I’m hesitant. I never have before.
I forgot to finish that first paragraph. Here’s the rest of it:
I don’t want to leave a long, winding response to someone like you about how hopeless I perceive my situation to be. I would feel really stupid. I do not have nearly as many reasons to be upset.
You aren’t lazy. Things are a little difficult now and it can take a lot of energy out of you. That’s natural.. not laziness. You have a lot of time ahead if you. From what you’ve written, you have a lot of wisdom and knowledge. They are a solid asset.
There is a difference between laziness and depression, though they sometimes look the same to the outside world.
I don’t believe you’re lazy.
I think you suffer from depression, and there’s no shame in that at all.
I spend the entire day in bed– sometimes multiple days– not because I’m lazy, but because of depression and physical disabilities.
But to others who might be quick to judge, I might seem lazy.
I’m going to keep my initial impression of you, which is that you are a fun and awesome and highly intelligent creative person who has a version of the same disease we all have here. 🙂
Thank you, Cordless. I really do appreciate the compliments.
Maybe you’re right, about the laziness not being actual laziness. I’m still not sure. But you aren’t the only one to have said it, so it’s worth considering.
Thank you but I didn’t post that so that you would feel bad for me, even though I appreciate it. I posted that to show you that anything is possible. I’ve noticed that there’s a lot of strength in the people that post here, including yourself because we have talked since I came here, and I’m truly thankful for the love and support. I just don’t want you to ever sell yourself short. You are definitely one of the strongest, compassionate, loving and caring people that’s it’s been my pleasure to meet here. I guess what I’m trying to say is, give yourself the exact same strength, compassion, love, and care that you give to everybody else, because just like you feel that we deserve it, we feel like you deserve it. Love yourself the way everybody else love you.
Well, I don’t pity you, at least not in the condescending way. I just admire the strength that you have.
But anyway, those are very kind suggestions. Worth taking seriously. Thank you for your input. I had no idea that I left such an impression on you, or on as many people as I apparently do. That’s pretty sobering. I’ve been told stuff like that before, before I seem to always circle back to making posts like this. The brain is weird, in that way. It sabotages itself constantly.
Thank you and strength comes from within as well as from out, You have definitely made an impression on me and I’m sure others here on this site, just don’t give up and never stop fighting, you do yourself a great disservice when you do. Give yourself the chances you give everybody else. I know you’ll do just fine, there’s not a doubt in my mind.
I think maybe motivation is just a limited resource. It’s easy to assume the reason you won’t do things is that you don’t want to expend the energy.
Perhaps you just have less energy to expend. Suicidal depression will do that. Also, hating yourself so much can consume an enormous amount of focus.
Possible way forward – conserve energy as much as you can, then channel it at whatever the first step is of the least scary recovery path. If it fails, then resume familiar cycle of self-hatred for a while, before trying something else.
Processing your request, Please wait....
19 comments
I think a lot of times other things get mistaken for laziness, like apathy or lethargy.
And have you ever noticed we don’t call pets lazy (except jokingly) even though most of them do nothing at all?
Well, in the case of pets, we tend to force lethargy on them. We tend to tether them to ourselves, drag them into our boring lives. So it isn’t really their fault. One of my dogs is obese and barely moves. There are no obese wolves, though, and never have been. Do you want to know why?
Anyway, thanks for what you said. It could be apathy or lethargy. But I call it laziness. I like to beat my critics to the punch.
Hmmm, good point about pets.
Thanks.
Unlike my dog, I have no excuses.
Hey miss fish, this might sound lame but try and start with little things that aren’t too hard to achieve. My depression started a routine if inactivity and the more times I practice doing something the easier it gets. Im hoping that I wake up one day and im actually living a life.
Dont be down on urself, I think we all have a love/hate with inertia
Soco: I have tried doing little things. But I never stick with them. With the vast majority of things, there comes a point where I inevitably stop caring, or get distracted, and give up. I never finish anything I start. Be it writing projects, exercise regimens, diets, study plans, books, games, the turning over of new leaves in general.
This isn’t me counting myself out. This is me making an educated guess based on an almost two-decade-long, consistent pattern. The sun rises every day. It’s a pattern that we consider reliable. Nobody goes to bed thinking “well, hopefully the sun will decide to rise tomorrow” or “maybe something else will rise instead.” No. We know the sun will rise because it always does.
I know that I will fail in my attempts to help myself, because I always do. It’s a reliable pattern. And I’m glad that I figured that out, because now I don’t have to further waste any of my time or energy.
Nevertheless, I’m very thankful that you gave me what advice you thought was best. I hope you make it. It would be a shame if you didn’t.
Hey whiskered fish, I hated change more than anybody, but over time I learned to adapt, I had to in order to make it through life. Fighting depression and anger is hard and I can honestly say I know how you feel, it drains you emotionally and physically to the point of feeling lazy, and I still have episodes. But this is something you can overcome too. I refuse to lay down and give anybody the satisfaction of seeing me fail, including and especially myself. And I’m not sure if this will make sense to you but it does me, because more than anything I wanted to love me, I’ve gotten to the point of liking me, Now after everything I’ve been through, I’m 47 years old and I haven’t posted this before and only a couple of people in my circle know this, but I’m starting up my own t-shirt printing and graphics business. I should be up and running in about a month, and I will succeed. I’m only sharing this with you because I don’t want you to give up on a very special success story, and that’s you !!!! We’ve all been told we can do whatever we set our minds to, and that’s true. I’m doing what I’ve set my mind to, and so can you. Set a goal for yourself and go for it, the smallest successes feel so good, and lead to bigger ones, I don’t know you personally, but I believe in you, believe in yourself. And you will succeed. 🙂
Noneedforaname, I was hesitant to answer this, because I’ve read your posts, and if it isn’t out of line for me to say, you have truly been through hell.
I wanted to give your comment the in-depth reply that it deserves. And I’m so sorry that I can’t. I just wanted to say that I wish you the best in your T-shirt printing business. From what I’ve read of your posts and comments, I believe you can do it. You don’t seem to be the kind of person who gives up.
I want to believe that I can succeed, but I’m hesitant. I never have before.
I forgot to finish that first paragraph. Here’s the rest of it:
I don’t want to leave a long, winding response to someone like you about how hopeless I perceive my situation to be. I would feel really stupid. I do not have nearly as many reasons to be upset.
You aren’t lazy. Things are a little difficult now and it can take a lot of energy out of you. That’s natural.. not laziness. You have a lot of time ahead if you. From what you’ve written, you have a lot of wisdom and knowledge. They are a solid asset.
I don’t know, distant road. It feels like the more I learn, the more sad the world looks. More of a liability than an asset. But thank you.
There is a difference between laziness and depression, though they sometimes look the same to the outside world.
I don’t believe you’re lazy.
I think you suffer from depression, and there’s no shame in that at all.
I spend the entire day in bed– sometimes multiple days– not because I’m lazy, but because of depression and physical disabilities.
But to others who might be quick to judge, I might seem lazy.
I’m going to keep my initial impression of you, which is that you are a fun and awesome and highly intelligent creative person who has a version of the same disease we all have here. 🙂
Thank you, Cordless. I really do appreciate the compliments.
Maybe you’re right, about the laziness not being actual laziness. I’m still not sure. But you aren’t the only one to have said it, so it’s worth considering.
Thank you but I didn’t post that so that you would feel bad for me, even though I appreciate it. I posted that to show you that anything is possible. I’ve noticed that there’s a lot of strength in the people that post here, including yourself because we have talked since I came here, and I’m truly thankful for the love and support. I just don’t want you to ever sell yourself short. You are definitely one of the strongest, compassionate, loving and caring people that’s it’s been my pleasure to meet here. I guess what I’m trying to say is, give yourself the exact same strength, compassion, love, and care that you give to everybody else, because just like you feel that we deserve it, we feel like you deserve it. Love yourself the way everybody else love you.
Well, I don’t pity you, at least not in the condescending way. I just admire the strength that you have.
But anyway, those are very kind suggestions. Worth taking seriously. Thank you for your input. I had no idea that I left such an impression on you, or on as many people as I apparently do. That’s pretty sobering. I’ve been told stuff like that before, before I seem to always circle back to making posts like this. The brain is weird, in that way. It sabotages itself constantly.
Thank you and strength comes from within as well as from out, You have definitely made an impression on me and I’m sure others here on this site, just don’t give up and never stop fighting, you do yourself a great disservice when you do. Give yourself the chances you give everybody else. I know you’ll do just fine, there’s not a doubt in my mind.
Thanks, again. I can’t say much more other than I hope you’re right.
I think maybe motivation is just a limited resource. It’s easy to assume the reason you won’t do things is that you don’t want to expend the energy.
Perhaps you just have less energy to expend. Suicidal depression will do that. Also, hating yourself so much can consume an enormous amount of focus.
Possible way forward – conserve energy as much as you can, then channel it at whatever the first step is of the least scary recovery path. If it fails, then resume familiar cycle of self-hatred for a while, before trying something else.
Thank you, husk, for your advice. As always. I appreciate your insight.