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I totally lied

by Cordless

Had doctor appointment today.

Got the Amitryptaline increased from 75 to 100.

The doctor did the usual cover-your-butt questions, including “Have you had any suicidal thoughts?”

I shook my head as if to say “No, of course not, what a silly thing to ask.”

Because only a fool would say “As a matter of fact, YES! Hahahha! Funny you should mention that! I was just waiting for you to ask! Here’s a song I wrote that I’d like played at my funeral! Do you like it? Does it need more cello?”

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shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 5:19 pm

I wouldn’t feel too bad about lying. However you may not want to lie to your doctor about that sort of thing, they’d probably be understanding of it…. But it is your choice, all depends on your goals. Either way you shouldn’t be too upset about it.

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 5:30 pm

The way I understand it, they are ethically obligated to take action if a patient admits to thoughts of suicide.
The last thing I want is to be placed in a facility somewhere, being monitored for a week or two.

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 5:33 pm

I have no idea how it works…. all I know is my doctor doesn’t do anything if I admit to thoughts…. then again my thoughts of suicide are very passive…. I’m sure more involved thoughts could probably lead to bad things…. So yeah maybe lying is good if you don’t want that. -_-

ZeldaSky 5/24/2016 - 10:21 pm

I don’t know how it works in other countries, but here I’m pretty sure there’s a difference between suicidal ‘thoughts’ and suicidal ‘plans’. I have admitted to thoughts, but downplayed them a lot. But I would never admit to having a plan in mind because I am sure that is the point where they may do something about it.

ZeldaSky 5/24/2016 - 10:25 pm

Argh, scratch that. It was DEPRESSIVE thoughts. Depressive thoughts, NOT suicidal. What was I thinking?!

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 5:31 pm

I’m not upset about the lying thing.
I guess I see it as something I had to do, to avoid unwelcome intrusions.

I just think the irony is amusing.

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 5:34 pm

welp that’s good that you’re not upset ^_^
yeah it is a bit amusing in some ways. I’d assume they’d have an idea that it was a lie though….

Ant 5/24/2016 - 5:35 pm

That made me laugh. Pretty sad that people are scared to be honest though and try and seek the right medication out of fare of being locked away or something 😀 After I had an attempt and was let out of hospital the police was at my house for 6 hours while waiting for another person to come that was qualified to search my home to make sure I had no contraptions to try and end my life again and it was safe for me to return etc… Was a really fun 6 hours actually, we spoke about the Illuminati and all sorts lol they are just as fucked up as the rest of us was very refreshing ^_^

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 5:40 pm

Holy crap! I never heard of such a thing. Did they produce a warrant?

Ant 5/24/2016 - 5:47 pm

Nope I was a bit fuming at first tbh cause I had already been let out of hospital the evening prior to the day they was here. I woke up to the sound of someone walking up my stairs… A police woman had let herself in apparently she was within her rights as they was worried I had no picked up my phone, this was about 7am btw so not answering my phone was cause I was a sleep! lol ridiculous. I told her to get out at first but then they sort of made it all a bit less ugly and more friendly so I sort of was a bit more compliant, she was nice enough but yer still had no right as far as I’m concerned. She was here for about 2 hours before “handing me over” to the next shift of police staff at 9am and they was here all day pretty much, sat on my sofa watching my tele while we had to wait for someone to come out to look about my house and they didn’t get here the afternoon. Although I had a laugh with them and just got on with my day like they wasn’t there it was still a piss take fur sure.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 5:53 pm

Is this in the U.S.?

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 5:54 pm

I think he lives in the UK.
?

Ant 5/24/2016 - 5:58 pm

Yer this is the UK police. They have nothing better to do then sit babysitting me all day lol makes me laugh cause they have no funds to do real police work but apparently they have the funds to mind me 😀 I did tell them actually that to don’t worry lol I was very much myself… funnily enough they agreed lol.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 6:03 pm

I see. I am only familiar with US law. Sorry you had to put up with this.

Ant 5/24/2016 - 6:10 pm

I think like Cordless mentions “cover-your-butt questions” I think they had realised they had made a mistake letting me go before all of this interrogation & searching had happened. Once they had all covered their butts I was good to get back on with planning my next attempt.

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 5:43 pm

It’s refreshing to know that everybody is messed up in various ways.

Except, of course, for people like brain surgeons. If I ever need brain surgery, I don’t want the guy to be swatting away imaginary flies and talking to invisible friends named Hilda.

Surgeon: “Hilda! Scalpel!”

(**silence**)

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 5:44 pm

LOL

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 5:46 pm

But what if Hilda is really great with brains and gives him advice and makes him an excellent surgeon? O.o would you still not want him?

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 5:49 pm

Good point.

I would need to see Hilda’s medical degree and references.

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 6:01 pm

Which are probably invisible also.

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 6:03 pm

so can you see invisible things? O.o if not then I guess poor Hilda isn’t getting a customer…. Poor Hilda

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 6:04 pm

Wait, you mean those empty frames in my doctor’s office are supposed to have something in them?

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 6:07 pm

oh cool…. You have an invisdoctor too ^_^

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 6:09 pm

@shatterediris: The last I checked, I could not see invisible things. (Although, come to think of it, how would I know? If they’re visible to me, how would I realize they’re actually invisible?…. And are they still technically invisible if…. wait…. I think my head just exploded.)

@mysteriousvisitor: Depending on who you ask…

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 6:15 pm

well, you’d probably figure out that they were not visible to others…. But yeah you are right that visibility is a trait dependent upon the individuals currently perceiving the object. So…. Maybe Hilda isn’t invisible at all? O.o

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 6:16 pm

Damn it cordless, you made this fun lighthearted conversation into a fun thinky conversation 😛 😀 ^_^ I don’t know how to feel about this.

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 6:20 pm

Sorry about that.
I hadn’t planned on doing any thinking at all today, it just sort of happened by accident.

Hopefully my dinner will end up being invisible, with zero calories.
But still tasty.
Do they make invisible pizza?
I bet it could delivered in a lot less than 30 minutes.

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 6:25 pm

invisible calorie-free pizza seems like a thing that should exist…. I would worry about the flavour though, low-calorie food generally tastes a bit wonky…. -_- But still it’s Pizza, you simply can never go wrong with that.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 6:55 pm

Somebody else’s problem field (certain sci-fi fans will get this).

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 7:35 pm

I remembered my towel today!

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 7:40 pm

Marvin would fit right in here at SP.

nepheliad 5/24/2016 - 7:43 pm

Don’t panic! The official Towel Day is tomorrow! (May 25th.)

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 7:45 pm

Marvin would be awesome.

And I’ll be sure to have a towel ready tomorrow.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 7:48 pm

Towel Day, Pi Day, and 4-20 – top three holidays of the year.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 9:38 pm

Oh, and International Talk Like a Pirate Day

PhantomCitizen43 5/24/2016 - 6:32 pm

Yeah > in a case like suicidal thoughts. YES you are best to keep it to yourself and not ever say it to a doctor or a psychiatrist or a police officer or anybody in a position of authority. They are obligated to have you locked up if you say so.
trust me I have been through the routine a 100 times.

Hazy Day Sunflower 5/24/2016 - 7:10 pm

Much like Cow Bell, we always need more Cello.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 7:12 pm

I got a fever…

Hazy Day Sunflower 5/24/2016 - 7:23 pm

WIN.

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 8:09 pm

As far as I can remember, I’ve never written anything with cowbell in it.
Maybe I should look into that.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 8:13 pm

Yes!

Morris 5/24/2016 - 7:11 pm

It’s funny how we’re told as children that “honesty is the best policy”. That’s so not true. If a woman asks “do I look fat in these jeans”, the correct answer is always no. This is an acceptable lie which prevents unpleasant drama. (Learned that lesson the hard way).

Hazy Day Sunflower 5/24/2016 - 7:24 pm

Marry a person with aspergers, I always get the truth. Regardless of tact. I just don’t ask unless I want the bold naked unpleasant truth.

ZeldaSky 5/24/2016 - 10:27 pm

I broke it OFF with a person with aspergers because he told me I should just hurry up and kill myself to spare us both the agony of waiting. Well, that definitely wasn’t the only reason but it was a biggie.

nepheliad 5/24/2016 - 7:24 pm

On the flip side, if a guy asks a girl, “Do I look fat in these jeans?” I’m guessing that, “Babe, those jeans make you look like you don’t even have an ass,” wouldn’t be the politically correct answer either.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 7:31 pm

Yeah, that is kind of a lose-lose situation. I guess you could always say “what jeans?”

Hazy Day Sunflower 5/24/2016 - 7:18 pm

ON another note: Epic thread. Thanks for the laugh.

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 7:19 pm

Cordless, I went to my new PCP today. Seemed like a cool doc.

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 7:36 pm

Was he/she visible?

mysteriousvisitor 5/24/2016 - 7:39 pm

I think – unless I was hallucinating (it’s a he).

rocketman 5/24/2016 - 7:37 pm

Cordless
Your behavior stuns me!! You are a devil in disguise! 🙂

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 7:44 pm

I know.

shatterediris 5/24/2016 - 7:47 pm

wait disguise? O.o

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 7:49 pm

LOL!!

Did I forget my disguise today?

Cordless 5/24/2016 - 7:48 pm

Years of practice.

skysie 5/25/2016 - 2:19 pm

Hi Cordless,
Lying to your doctor was probably not a good idea. People cant help you if you don’t tell them whats going on. You should never be ashamed to tell a doctor how you feel the don’t judge they see cases like this day in and day out. They are there to help not to judge or out to get you.

mysteriousvisitor 5/25/2016 - 6:35 pm

No one should need to fear being honest, but unfortunately it can sometimes cause problems – especially if you are taking something like Amitryptaline. A doctor may not want to make a particular decision, but feel forced in order to cover their butt. It is sad that the law can interfere with the doctor/patient relationship.

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