I have a diagnosis app nov27th. I have a therapist app dec3rd. I already missed 2 therapist appointments. And honestly at this point im thinking about just cancelling them all.
You won’t get an argument from me. Perhaps therapy helps some people, but my personal experience was not a good one. Seems like my therapists job was to find more and more issues I “wasn’t aware of” and inform me that “we’ll talk more about that next week, because oh my, look at the clock, we’re out of time today!”
As long as you’re seeing a therapist, you’ll be finding out you had issues that, amazingly enough, only they are aware of. Makes for a good income stream for them.
Well as I basically said I don’t even have a diagnoses yet and she’s talking about giving me anti depressants and anti anxiety. What’s she’s missing is if anything I need antipsychotics. But how is she, a therapist, suppose to diagnose me, the job of a psyciatrist.
I have seen people suffer from taking antidepressants. Two of these people where in my family. Two were neighbors. Two were in the church I was attending . Another a flight student of mine. Tread carefully, if at all.
Actually a therapist can diagnose (in the US), it is something insurance companies frequently task them with. However only a psychologist can prescribe drugs. Good outcomes with the drugs are amazingly rare based on a ton of anecdotal evidence I have been gathering. I have no personal knowledge of anyone benefiting from mental meds except one. She thought the drug she took for several years was great actually and then she very nearly died from the side effects. That was my sister.
My father was given an antidepressant, took it briefly, the discomfort was intense, and he said nevermore.
The problem with the newer generation of antidepressants is that the entire industry has an underlying bias against hedonic effects. If it makes you feel good, it’s thought of like a narcotic – it’s bad, because drugs that actually have the intended effect of making you feel better are clearly harmful. So to skirt around that issue, they meddle with serotonin levels, which only indirectly has an effect on depression. There’s an entire universe of related compounds that actually work, but they’ve all been rendered illegal due to their analog similarities to other recreational drugs.
I have little confidence in the prescription drug industry as a whole and none whatsoever in their mental meds stuff. I use only well established natural stuff when I take something for mental comfort/well being. I get what I need and no harm has happened, nor is it likely.
It'll Be Ok11/9/2019 - 12:14 am
Oh definitely ive heard stories and I know some people on here have talked about it. The problem is what I described in my post rainbows and unicorns is only the beginning. Due to recent events (that I refuse to go into) it’s gotten worse and that seems to be all it knows how to do.
Once is correct, therapy is a business, and the first law of business is monetary advancement. You have nothing to lose by going to these appointments just don’t get your hopes up that they will work.
the way things work for me (its a bit to explain plus in some cases i prefer to keep it to myself) its almost like i have to go to the therapist because if i dont do something i will end up in a mental hospital permanently. or maybe not no one believes me and they wont until its to late.
You may find benefits to speaking with a therapist…As they dig and analyze, it is possible to learn things about yourself, about how you process and perhaps different ways of processing, and so on. It might be worth a try, you never know. As for how a therapist can diagnose, well, the three I saw over a period of several years spent the first session or two asking questions about me and my past experiences, and based on my answers they developed a diagnosis. It’s about the same as taking a car to a mechanic….they ask for symptoms and make an educated guess as to the nature of the problem.
I didn’t enjoy being asked to rehash old experiences and discuss old traumas. It made the pain brand new all over again. It brought out lots of negative emotions, which therapists will tell you is exactly what needs to happen to heal. I didn’t enjoy it, and would rather live with all the pain neatly stored away, where I can just ignore it as it slowly eats my soul, etc etc etc.
The main thing I learned, beside the fact that every week the therapist was finding a new issue to tackle and guaranteeing additional income, was that I can control how I react and process emotions by being aware of certain behaviors as they are manifesting themselves. We aren’t as helpless at all times as we might think we are. That was the only real positive take away from my experience with therapists.
i dig up enough of my own problems i dont need someones help. also that doesnt make sense. remember and youll feel better. i remember everything everyday and its not helping. in fact its doing the opposite.
One therapist compared trauma to a flesh wound that didn’t heal correctly. She said we have to rip away the improperly healed flesh, recreating the wound, then make sure it heals properly this time around. She added that things will get worse before they get better. Ok. I sort of get that, but I think I’ll just live with my disfigured wound instead of “ripping it open.” It just depends on how badly a person needs to figure things out, I suppose. I thought it would help, but no, it didn’t provide what I hoped it would.
i heard theres the typically way of doing it by reopening the wound, but i think someone on here told me about the opposite where you just bandage the wound or something like that
The problem with putting stock in a therapist is that the therapist is not you, and not in your head. You are. The therapist might give you insight from an outside perspective, but ultimately it’s you who has to find your way through that cryptic maze. The therapist’s job is to collect a paycheck.
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You won’t get an argument from me. Perhaps therapy helps some people, but my personal experience was not a good one. Seems like my therapists job was to find more and more issues I “wasn’t aware of” and inform me that “we’ll talk more about that next week, because oh my, look at the clock, we’re out of time today!”
As long as you’re seeing a therapist, you’ll be finding out you had issues that, amazingly enough, only they are aware of. Makes for a good income stream for them.
Well as I basically said I don’t even have a diagnoses yet and she’s talking about giving me anti depressants and anti anxiety. What’s she’s missing is if anything I need antipsychotics. But how is she, a therapist, suppose to diagnose me, the job of a psyciatrist.
Antipsychotics? No. Just no. Never take those unless you like drooling and bumping into walls.
can i pass? lol
I have seen people suffer from taking antidepressants. Two of these people where in my family. Two were neighbors. Two were in the church I was attending . Another a flight student of mine. Tread carefully, if at all.
Actually a therapist can diagnose (in the US), it is something insurance companies frequently task them with. However only a psychologist can prescribe drugs. Good outcomes with the drugs are amazingly rare based on a ton of anecdotal evidence I have been gathering. I have no personal knowledge of anyone benefiting from mental meds except one. She thought the drug she took for several years was great actually and then she very nearly died from the side effects. That was my sister.
My father was given an antidepressant, took it briefly, the discomfort was intense, and he said nevermore.
The problem with the newer generation of antidepressants is that the entire industry has an underlying bias against hedonic effects. If it makes you feel good, it’s thought of like a narcotic – it’s bad, because drugs that actually have the intended effect of making you feel better are clearly harmful. So to skirt around that issue, they meddle with serotonin levels, which only indirectly has an effect on depression. There’s an entire universe of related compounds that actually work, but they’ve all been rendered illegal due to their analog similarities to other recreational drugs.
I have little confidence in the prescription drug industry as a whole and none whatsoever in their mental meds stuff. I use only well established natural stuff when I take something for mental comfort/well being. I get what I need and no harm has happened, nor is it likely.
Oh definitely ive heard stories and I know some people on here have talked about it. The problem is what I described in my post rainbows and unicorns is only the beginning. Due to recent events (that I refuse to go into) it’s gotten worse and that seems to be all it knows how to do.
Once is correct, therapy is a business, and the first law of business is monetary advancement. You have nothing to lose by going to these appointments just don’t get your hopes up that they will work.
the way things work for me (its a bit to explain plus in some cases i prefer to keep it to myself) its almost like i have to go to the therapist because if i dont do something i will end up in a mental hospital permanently. or maybe not no one believes me and they wont until its to late.
You may find benefits to speaking with a therapist…As they dig and analyze, it is possible to learn things about yourself, about how you process and perhaps different ways of processing, and so on. It might be worth a try, you never know. As for how a therapist can diagnose, well, the three I saw over a period of several years spent the first session or two asking questions about me and my past experiences, and based on my answers they developed a diagnosis. It’s about the same as taking a car to a mechanic….they ask for symptoms and make an educated guess as to the nature of the problem.
I didn’t enjoy being asked to rehash old experiences and discuss old traumas. It made the pain brand new all over again. It brought out lots of negative emotions, which therapists will tell you is exactly what needs to happen to heal. I didn’t enjoy it, and would rather live with all the pain neatly stored away, where I can just ignore it as it slowly eats my soul, etc etc etc.
The main thing I learned, beside the fact that every week the therapist was finding a new issue to tackle and guaranteeing additional income, was that I can control how I react and process emotions by being aware of certain behaviors as they are manifesting themselves. We aren’t as helpless at all times as we might think we are. That was the only real positive take away from my experience with therapists.
i dig up enough of my own problems i dont need someones help. also that doesnt make sense. remember and youll feel better. i remember everything everyday and its not helping. in fact its doing the opposite.
One therapist compared trauma to a flesh wound that didn’t heal correctly. She said we have to rip away the improperly healed flesh, recreating the wound, then make sure it heals properly this time around. She added that things will get worse before they get better. Ok. I sort of get that, but I think I’ll just live with my disfigured wound instead of “ripping it open.” It just depends on how badly a person needs to figure things out, I suppose. I thought it would help, but no, it didn’t provide what I hoped it would.
i heard theres the typically way of doing it by reopening the wound, but i think someone on here told me about the opposite where you just bandage the wound or something like that
The problem with putting stock in a therapist is that the therapist is not you, and not in your head. You are. The therapist might give you insight from an outside perspective, but ultimately it’s you who has to find your way through that cryptic maze. The therapist’s job is to collect a paycheck.
doesnt it go something like the insane dont know they are. so in that case you need an outside perspective
What if the foundation of the outside perspective is itself insane? That’d be a real pickle.
Like, I doubt Hannibal Lector was a bad therapist, but he might eat you after helping you figure out your issues, ya know?