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by JakeWantsToSmile

This is my first posting on here.. Oh wow, I don’t even know where or how to start. Just gonna wing it..

I am 26 years old and living a miserable life inside my miserable home in miserable Phoenix, AZ. Actually I have been very fortunate.. I have a great family and they may be, in part, why I am still here. My parents have given me all the tools I could ever want to succeed in life, but I do nothing except throw them out the window it seems. Anyway, amidst some legal trouble, relationship trouble, unemployment trouble, and really just troubles in life, I have decided I would rather become a ghost and see if anything else is beyond what we call life on earth. I thought I would ingest a handful of pills and drink myself to death.. I started doing research, which is where I discovered the suicide project. I have spent hours upon hours reading stories just like mine. Even though i know nobody here and his is my first blog I feel very comfortable and at home. Anyway, after hours of reading stories of trial and error and researching different methods, I discovered the “helium Hood method”. This seemed to be painless and easy… researching a little more I discovered that replacing helium with ******** was the way to go. Can’t go wrong I thought!

So about 3 weeks ago I went to target because I hate wal-mart, and purchased large oven bags, some draw string and duct tape. Following directions I found online, I made my own exit bag to the T. I went to a local welding shop and purchased a large ******** tank (5ft tall) and some rubber hose. I’m set!

I woke up next morning, went on a peaceful motorcycle ride to canyon lake, said my good byes and I love you’s.. went home, propped my pillows up, positioned my tank near my bed, grabbed my hood and played down. I did a practice run, positioned the Hood over my head and pulled the drawstring tight.. I was surprised that it didn’t freak me out.. then knock at the door! I can hear my mom calling my name.. shit! She was checking on me, seeing how I’m doing.. I told her I was ok.. she told me to come over for dinner tonight. Mom potentially saved my life.

A few depressing days later, I was ready to try this one more time. Yada yada yada, Im in bed and pull the Hood down and tighten it. I turned on the ******** tank and the gas noise coming from tubing to the hood was scary! I sat for a couple seconds panicked and removed the hood. I drank heavily and went to bed.

There it sits in the corner of my room, ******** tank and hood, glarring at me. I can’t even do this right. So a couple days ago I grew the balls and thought id try it one more time.. this time I’m expecting the noise, so it shouldn’t be as scary.. piece of cake! Laying down, Hood is on.. to make it easier I had a plan to close my eyes and count each deep breathe from one until I’m asleep.. 1,2,3,…30! Wtf! I feel fine! So I removed the hood and threw it aside yet again. The Hood filled up like a balloon, so I know it didn’t leak… why can’t I do this? I just wanna be a ghost. I have read over and over that I should be unconscious almost instantly…?? Id ask for some advice, but obviously if you have done this successfully then you will not be giving any.. so I just thought id share/vent. I’m frustrated. Please talk to me.. your thoughts?

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causeway 1/31/2012 - 8:13 pm

I don’t know what you’re doing wrong. I don’t know about ******** but if you’ve read the helium thread through, especially the reports from Dignitas, they report different timescales for unconsciousness. Maybe you need to repost this in the helium thread, to get an answer from one of the resident experts. Have you tested the tank for pressure etc – or maybe you got a dud tank.

On the other hand, you could try helium.

Dawg 1/31/2012 - 8:24 pm

I concur with “causeway” – the other things that come to mind are

1. are you sure the ******** is 100%?
2. reports using helium say unconsciousness can take over a minute in some cases
3. did you clear the bag of all air before placing it? any O2 in the bag will extend the time to pass out
4. is the flow rate 15-20 liters per minute? It must be in order to displace all air and exhaled co2

that said, I hope you can find workable solutions to avoid this option altogether – you won’t end up “a ghost” … you’ll just “end”

spirit dawg

letmedie 1/31/2012 - 9:22 pm

******** is 3% lighter than air so I wouldn’t recommend lying down. Most web instructions recommend sitting in a chair or at least sitting up in bed. I’m surprised you didn’t have difficulty getting a large ******** tank. I’ve been afraid to try to source some so I bought one Balloon Time helium party tank (4.5 cu, the only size I could find in stores right now) and will get one or two more within the next few days. I’ve been nearing the end of my rope since October after a two month bipolar manic episode came crashing down into a severe depression. Did the ******** have any effect at all on you? Did you leave the tank on so it could continue to flush out other gases? I’m worried that my attempt will fail. People should be able to check out of this world without pain. Living has been painful enough. If you are truly suffering and it wont get better then good luck. Don’t take what has been given to you for granted; material, emotional, or otherwise. But if it is time to go, it is time to go.

JakeWantsToSmile 1/31/2012 - 11:25 pm

I was not aware that I shouldn’t lay down.. I was just thinking if I lag down I have no chance of falling and the bag coming loose.. are you in the states? I noticed a lot of UK and others here.. at least in the states, I just went to a welding supply.. they didn’t ask questions.. tank full was $175… not sure how much helium costs but this was cheaper than expected.. and yes, I lay there, tank on the entire time.. I didn’t notice anything different until after I removed the Hood.. not sure if its any relation, but I was burping after and like an hour or so later I was walking around and felt light-headed/dizzy almost as if drank too much, but nothing severe.. and chapped lips ? .. I think it can work, and hope it works for you if / when you try.. no sense in living unhappy. And one of my favorite songs BTW, is social distortion – don’t take for granted.

Kenneth-Oswald 1/31/2012 - 9:32 pm

This is really peculiar. Inside of an enclosed environment inert gas should displace oxygen to levels that are not suitable to sustain life. I have some questions:

– What was the name and model of the regulator/flowmeter that you used? And what did you set the flow rate to?
– Did you scrunch the bag down before putting it on top of your head to remove the the air?
– Are you absolutely positive you purchased a ******** gas cylinder?

JakeWantsToSmile 1/31/2012 - 10:42 pm

I do not have a regulator.. I don’t think? It has a gauge that says 4400 psi? I just cracked the tank so I could feel the air coming out about the same velocity as my breathe.. I could see the bag/Hood expand all the way so I know I had enough flow.. I think anyway. I did not scrunch the bag down.. even if I do so, I will have to open it to put it on so it will contain oxygen anyways, correct? And I’m 110% its a ******** tank.. thanks for the replies and any info.

Kenneth-Oswald 1/31/2012 - 11:20 pm

A pressure regulator is absolutely necessary when using a high pressure gas cylinder. Pressure regulators reduce the pressure in the gas cylinder to a useable pressure.

The regulator you choose should have a flow-meter that has a scale in CFH (cubic feet per hour) or LPM (liters per minute). You can control the flow of gas by adjusting the knob on the flow-meter. Below is link to a picture of a regulator/flowmeter (copy and paste in your address bar)

ezitowtrailerparts.com/images/006.JPG

The flow-meter will have an outlet where you can connect a hose or an adapter for a hose barb if you wish to use plastic tubing.

JakeWantsToSmile 1/31/2012 - 11:48 pm

So if I crack the knob enough to fill the plastic bag rapidly, but not so much that it bursts, will not work? .. thanks for the advice, I will check out a hardware store tomorrow.

Kenneth-Oswald 2/1/2012 - 12:18 am

The plastic bag should not burst as it should not be air tight around the neck. The bag should be just tight enough to stay inflated but not so tight that it doesn’t allow the co2 you exhale to be flushed out of the bag. This is why the 15 LPM flow rate is important. You are trying to maintain a steady flow rate of gas inside of the bag. This is why I think flow-meters are absolutely necessary. How else can you gauge how much gas is flowing into the bag?

Achieving the the proper fit around your neck is easy if you use elastic. You can use a toggle with the elastic to make the bag fits accordingly just as the woman does in this video (around the 0:47 mark):
youtube.com/watch?v=-_weVMdxMG0

By the way if you end up getting a flow-meter and the scale is in CFH (cubic feet per hour) you can convert to LPM (liters per minute) by multiplying the CFH number by 0.47.

KiKiC 2/1/2012 - 12:25 am

hi Jake, good advice from everyone but it is safe to use helium and easy and cheap to get in the states, and u can purchase a flow regulator kit with a gauge that goes with the kit to make sure the tank is full and that u get the right continuous flow. Let me know if u want to talk more. This is the method I am going to use and have gotten a lot of info from friends and done research myself. I’m just waiting for my kit to come. KiKi

LazyCowardwanttodie 3/19/2015 - 4:19 am

KiKiC if you’re still there – can we talk more about this? I just read this post and more or less in the same position as the OP.

U.N. Owen 2/1/2012 - 3:37 pm

I’m just going to buy 5 big tanks and lock myself in the trunk of my car and turn them on.

abandonmybody 3/12/2012 - 1:52 am

Hi I am looking to take the ******** route too. The only obstacle that I am faced with is finding which type of pressure regulator fits on a 5ft tall ******** high pressure cylinder. I bought the peacful pill handbook but it does not talk of large tanks it only mentions what is needed for the recommended 33 cubic ft mine is 233 ft just to ensure that I have enough. So If anyone has any
answers out there I would realy appreciate it if you could help me? PLEASE!!!
Thanks in advance.

abandonmybody 3/22/2012 - 3:05 pm

Well I’ve found that all size ******** tanks share the same type of fitting for pressure regulators.

rocketman 7/9/2012 - 9:01 pm

so…………. what is happening jake wants to smile? i’m curious why the blog has stoped?
it makes me wonder is everybody dead or just changing there mind?

a1957 7/16/2012 - 7:41 pm

i tried propane bc i had plenty of it. but i screwed it up every time. gas just isn’t as easy as i thought it would be. i wish you luck though. now i am trying to wrap my head around using a .357 JHP. head shot with nobody around ought to do it…survival rate is just 5% and that’s even if the do gooders get to you right away!

rocketman 7/18/2012 - 6:27 am

a1957
you are a year yonger than me, propane! your not using the right gas,the 357 will do it ok perhaps better if you got the guts to pull the triger,i don’t want to go out that way i think it’s a little to bitter.

Mike777 10/13/2012 - 6:41 pm

The reason the original poster did not pass out in less than 10 seconds is because it takes at least 30 seconds minimum. The maximum is something I do not know. I’m guessing it’s 30 to 120 seconds. The experience isn’t pleasant. Even Dr Nitschke in his book “Peaceful Pill” says that there will be alarm and air hunger. I felt panic. Hopefully drugs and practice will work that panic to a lower level. BTW– I have an argon flow meter does anyone know what adjustment i need to make for the flow rate since argon is heavier (my tank is ********) but the little ball that rises up the argon scale is going to be off a little bit due to using ********. I plan on setting the flow at 35 scfh on the argon meter. My ******** tank is 40 gallons.

Mike777 10/14/2012 - 9:34 pm

Ignore my comment immediately above. I tried the experiment again but this time i placed the bag around my forehead and let it completely fill which took 1 minute and 40 seconds at 15 liters per minute. When the bag was full I pulled it over my head and around my neck– then I breathed in. The effect was radically different. I believe pass out time is much quicker. It could even be 15 to 25 seconds — not sure because I did not pass out. I was only experimenting.

slowcivic2k 10/22/2012 - 7:46 am

I believe that is the sense of impending doom, most people get that when they know they are putting themselves at risk intentionally. I used to weld fuel tanks and the argon gas that fills the tank will kill you with no warning, because you are not fixated on it. The same reason when you stick your head out a car window you feel deprived of air for a split second. I would medicate with alcohol to depress brain function to decrease your awareness. Have everything set up beforehand, if you smoke, convince yourself to quit for at least a day so your blood pH doesn’t trigger suffocation. (CO will trigger this reaction along with CO2)

mummyrabbit 6/10/2016 - 10:47 am

So does this mean you didnt feel panic like you did the other time? Also you said “Even Dr Nitschke in his book “Peaceful Pill” says that there will be alarm and air hunger. ” is this still true please?

Thanks

ursa77 7/18/2016 - 11:36 pm

I’m not the one who wrote the original comment, but I would be shocked if Dr. Nitschke has ever said anything about there being discomfort to this procedure. The panicked urge to breath after failing to do so is called the Hypercapnic Alarm Response, and is triggered almost entirely by CO2 concentrations reaching a certain threshold. This, in combination with your body not being well-equipped to distinguish between oxygen and an inert gas like ******** or helium, means the procedure will be very peaceful if the steps are followed properly.

elizabethishere 1/29/2013 - 9:00 am

Jake, if you’re still here and get this, can you email me. I’m also in Phoenix. elizabethishere@hotmail.com. Thanks.

Kirken 2/25/2013 - 10:22 pm

Hi I just wanted to be sure about this so could somebody tell me what size tank I’d need to get (litres please) and how long it would last?

ataloss 3/9/2013 - 2:06 am

Thanks everybody. the love of my life just took his life this way . I’m glad he could have probably come to this site to learn exactly how to take himself away from me and everyone else that loved him so much. NOT, ABSOLUTELY NOT. When if he had paused, taken a breath, sought counseling, let others in… Sure, I’ve thought about the big S in my years on this earth. But, now I get it Suicide = selfish. If one is at such a loss, instead of taking his/her life, how about donating time to the less fortunate, to a cause, or if so fearless of death why not take those same chances/risks by really living life REALLY risking it – traveling, taking the risks both physically and emotionally here – right here on earth!?

endofanera 3/12/2013 - 9:43 am

Ataloss , i know that it is hard for those left behind, but when one has an incurable and unbearable illness it is the kindest way. I have just failed with the helium method and was considering ********. I am appalled to hear that even ******** isn’t guaranteed. I so desperately need a way out of the suffering. Think of those suffering as well as those left behind.,

changeling 3/12/2013 - 9:42 pm

Same question for ataloss: which works better, helium or ********? I got 2 of the 15 cubic feet helium tanks cheaply. But if ******** worked for him, then maybe it’d work for me too.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. I’m hoping to shove off sometime soon. Thanks all.

elizabethishere 3/24/2013 - 8:11 pm

Would really like some assistance in putting this together. Not with the actual act, but in putting it all together in preparation. Also, I wouldn’t mind company. I’ve always disliked the idea of dying alone. I am not scientifically-minded, so I could use help with the materials.

How large of a ******** tank would I need?
Does the flow-fitting and regulator come with it and if not, where can I find one?
What size tubing – in diameter/width and length?

So far, all I have is a plastic turkey oven bag (larger than the regular oven bag) and some elastic. I am a little lost but from what I have read, ******** is (so far) the method I prefer. Just don’t know where to start.

If anyone can email me, please do at elizabethishere at hotmail. Thanks.

Dawg 3/24/2013 - 8:54 pm

Asking “******** or Helium?” is like asking “TomaYto or tomaHto” – in context, they are virtually identical.

dog dawg

muffy 4/9/2013 - 3:56 pm

Try peasefull pill hanbdbook

muffy 4/9/2013 - 4:10 pm

Tryed to mail you, just got erro
message.

unlovable_me 5/8/2013 - 1:53 pm

I have considered a few methods before but I think I am going to settle on an exit bag. I just now need some opinions on what would be better overall, pills to knock me out or gas (helium/********)? I know there are probably both advantages and disadvantages to both so any input would be appreciated.

Titanium69 5/10/2013 - 9:35 am

I am well versed about ******** (research). I have everything in place and about to do fine adjustments to a timer based system. Take a few sleeping pills and the timers will do the rest. ******** is the best (fastest, cleanest, no stress)

I have shared many a posts with Kenneth and I can tell you how to get everything you need locally. Starting with the ******** (which you can pick at any welding shop) making reference to “plastic welding”).

Msg me for any questions needing answers. This thread could get zapped a any second for discussing methods…….but glad it’s here.

energetik 10/27/2016 - 1:53 pm

Sorry, I cannot seem to be able to pm you In case you are still around. I admire people well prepared and sharing the experience.

serena 5/10/2013 - 11:14 am

wow guys thanks the advice is great methods

mummyrabbit 6/10/2016 - 10:54 am

******** is the best most accessible way I have found as I’m researching. I’ve heard that it is painless , not uncomfortable and that most people don’t even realise they are hypoxic (not getting enough oxygen), however now I read Dr Nitschke said its not comfortable” that there will be alarm and air hunger” which also means one must be aware that they are hypoxic( not getting enough oxygen) Now I’m confused by the conflicting info.

ursa77 7/18/2016 - 11:21 pm

Is this thread the only place you’ve read about air hunger/alarm/discomfort while being deprived of oxygen in this manner? Every single thing I’ve read on the subject shows that with oxygen at a low enough level due to inert gas displacement and the procedure followed properly, unconsciousness (followed by death, of course) would set in within a minute with absolutely no more discomfort than lightheadedness or dizziness. Furthermore, I have never heard of Dr. Nitschke claiming anything contrary, so I highly doubt this information is accurate, especially considering that he has been advocating this method as peaceful and painless for many years. The human body is not well equipped to detect a change from oxygen to an inert gas such as helium, ********, or argon, so as long as there is minimal CO2 buildup from exhalation, your body will act as if everything is normal, and since the gasses are in correct proportions (only with a substitute standing in for oxygen) there will be next to no alarm response.

Chocabo 5/15/2013 - 5:43 pm

Hi Titaninium69,

I just read your comment and found it very interesting. You say that everything’s in place with the ******** method. Could you tell me where I could get a ******** tank and a flow regulator (online links would be ideal)? I live in Eastern Canada, but can drive down to Maine or Vermont if need be. I would really like to leave this existance by July at the latest. Thanks in advance, Chocabo

Titanium69 5/15/2013 - 8:26 pm

******** is easily available at your local welding supply store (flow meter as well). They don’t real ask anything, but if they are making conversation, simply tell them your are a hobbyist and your gonna try your hand at plastic welding (where ******** is the preferred gas).
You may want to research plastic welding if you want to be more knowledgeable.

tupacorbiggie 5/15/2013 - 10:13 pm

Hey Titanium69, can you email me at psyclone92@yahoo.com ?

I’d like to talk if that’s cool with you. =)

elizabethishere 7/27/2013 - 11:31 pm

Titanium69, I could really use some help and advice. Could you email elizabethishere@hotmail.com. If you get an error msg. (I don’t know why that happens), an alternate address is elizabethjustelizabeth@hotmail.com. Thank you!

thetimehascome 2/7/2014 - 4:28 pm

Titanium69 are you still about to help out with questions about the ******** method?
If so, could you email me at thetimehascome0@walla.com ? thanks..
Or if anyone else can help – trying to figure out if a 20ltr tank of N2 99.995% is enough to go ahead, or is that not enough? Also, do I need a specific ******** regulator, or would any regulator do the job? Is the valve on the tank not enough?
Thanks..

Tesla 3/12/2014 - 11:49 pm

The average male adult will not breath much more than 60 litres of air each minute during physical activity.
The part that kills you is being deprived of oxygen for a period of time. It isn’t an instant thing. I can hold my breath for like two minutes, that doesn’t mean I will die.
******** is not poisonous, it is an inert gas so it merely displaces oxygen.
The air we breath as humans contains 21% oxygen. Breathing air that is below 5% oxygen for 8 minutes or longer has a 100% mortality rate.
A 10L bottle of ******** actually holds 1000 litres of ********. So that is enough to kill at least 2 adult men.
If this interests you then perhaps you should consider not killing yourself and look into a career in science, physics or engineering.

Miss Satirical 8/4/2014 - 9:35 pm

Would it work with an anaesthetic mask secured to my face, rather than a plastic bag? I’m a lot claustrophobic

nohopepaddy 11/4/2014 - 4:19 am

A ******** specific regulator is necessary. A flowmeter for CO2, multiplying the flow rate by 1.26 do compensate for the different density is also necessary.
Order a tailpiece with a diameter pf 3/8″ if your chosen hose is that size
Usually 1/2″ hose has an inner diameter of 3/8″.
Sittind down is advisable as ******** is lighter than air.
Consider some kind of restraint method in case tou fall off the chair,

mummyrabbit 6/10/2016 - 10:56 am

I’m wondering if I could use a respirator that can be connected to the gas as I too am claustrophobic

lostallhope93 1/26/2015 - 9:07 am

I just really want to find out which gas would be most effective with the most minimal suffering. I already have mental illnesses, so I definitely don’t want to end up being a vegetable if these don’t work out!

Ant 5/12/2016 - 6:48 am

There is nothing particular special about helium or ********, any gas that doesn’t react with the body and is odourless would do. The important thing is the introduction into the bag… I read this in The Peaceful Pill.

I think my mistake was in the thickness of my tubing, I remember trying to tighten the draw string, it was bit tricky to get a snug fit. I just ordered some Pro Breathe Oxygen tubing 2.1m on EBay, looks a lot more suitable.

Kauzzy 2/9/2015 - 10:10 pm

I want to go I am very poor with nothing beyond the basics and can’t afford any helium or ********. I do have the propane gas could that be used with the exit bag. Please tell me.

Ant 5/12/2016 - 5:54 am

I read a few cases were propane was used, and worked. It is a lot cheaper and easier to purchase but I worry about the risk of others with this gas, I live in an apartment so the risk of fire wouldn’t be fair to others in the block.

jiwa 12/22/2015 - 10:49 am

Other option. Instead of using a bag method, using single-filter type respirator such 305 is perfect without the filter/catridge installed. Instead . Replace the catridge with bag as reservoir taped or tight tigthly after making a whole and hold it with rubber bands suround the outside of catridge-cone together with the plastic hose from regulator/controller or can also create a new small hole on the side of the cone to insert the hose. Seal any possible air escape spots with silicon sealant and wait until dry. Make sure the strap extra tight when the time is happened

Grant New Zealand 1/5/2016 - 8:11 am

If i were to use helium or nitro , i would buy a cpap machine. Place machine into large plastic rubbish bin with lid.
Drill 3 holes in bin 1 for power cord , one for hose from cpap machine to the full face mask. Would definitely use full face.
And the third hole for the introduction of the gas. I have used a cpap machine as have slight apnea.
seal all holes and lid with silicon after all set up.
Turn on cpap put on mask go to bed.
I would ensure i used nitro and spent the money on a very large tank. It would be fail proof as eventually the cpap would use all oxygen that was in the bin and it would have no choice but to then pump the gas
Leave the mask as it was designed , don’t bloke the exit hole on the mask as that gets rid of any co2 you breath out . And breathing co2 is what starts the auto panic reflex
You would find it was nice and gradual and if you stayed awake , would slowly get a lovely feeling of complete happiness as they do in high altitude training in vacuum rooms.
If i was to be so inclined to end my life i would ensure i spent the money on industrial grade nitro , as that grade is 99.99 percent pure , with zero oxygen. I would as i have said buy the largest tank available.
To be sure of a nice ending is like anything else , go cheap and its inferior. If you don’t have the money hold of until you do.
This way would work and be an enjoyable exit , as you would slowly achieve hypoxia .
I fly cessnas and used to work as an aircraft engineer , the cpap sealed into a plastic bin will work without fail.
I do need to add that i don’t want to suggest anyone takes their life , as its naughty and God and his son , whats his name again? oh yea Jesus , they will get upset. And although they created every thing and love us regardless of weather we masterbated , or even killed someone.
They will still send us to hell to burn in fire for at least 15670000 trillion years , of forever whichever comes first.
Just by the way in my opinion , the thing that fucks up the bible story is the devil , if you were not very bright , you could almost believe some sort of identity , created the universe etc etc.
But the devel bit just takes it all over the edge and makes it a real fairy tale.
Who the hell can truly believe that someone created it all , then had an disagreement with an angel , so that angel was banished to live under the earths ground. W.T.F.??
What about gods love ???. Sounds more like a power crazy arsehole, my way or no way sort of thing.
Anyway i don’t suggest anyone ever takes their own life , as i dont think its allowed on this site.
Cheers Grant

mtop.girl74 5/29/2016 - 1:43 pm

Grant New Zealand I am interested in your post. I’ve just joined this site and am unsure how it even works. Please message me or leave post if necessary.
If anyone else is familiar with Grant New Zealand’s information please contact me also.
Thank you

cappy 7/14/2016 - 3:43 am

This thread still active, as i have a few questions.

ursa77 7/18/2016 - 10:52 pm

I’m not the original poster, but I probably have the answers to any questions you could have on the topic of helium/******** exit bags, so it’s cool if you want to reply to this to ask me.

dishitout 8/15/2016 - 10:15 pm

Hi ursa, could I ask you some questions if you know a lot about the topic? maybe by mail? mine is plouisvg@hotmail.com

p.s. I’ve already read the peaceful pill handbook, my questions would be more specifics to make sure I don’t fail

qjqj 7/30/2016 - 1:25 am

I’m trying to find a way to get a ******** setup going. Grainger seems to be a good source for quality regulators, but going from there to a flowmeter and plastic tubing is kind of daunting. The connections are confusing. If Ursa or anyone could put together a list of parts that will work together, that you can buy online and have delivered in the US, that would be really helpful.

qjqj 9/2/2016 - 4:24 pm

I bought the Uniweld RHP400 off amazon, along with the hose and flowmeter that were recommended as a bundle (Uniweld H5SMBY and Turbo Torch 0386-0849). The flowmeter connects directly to the bottom of the regulator, and the hose connects to the bottom of the flowmeter (or the bottom of the regulator). I had to get a wrench to tighten the regulator to the gas tank completely, you can’t do it by hand. I guess I don’t even need plastic tubing now; the hose should suffice.

Pleasehelpme16 8/26/2016 - 1:21 pm

I got 32 CFH would equal 15.04 LPM. Is that right?

Pleasehelpme16 9/4/2016 - 5:32 pm

qjqj are you still there? I would like to ask you some questions about the nitro kit you purchased. Can I email you or can you email me? I am in New York where are you located?

qjqj 9/5/2016 - 2:03 pm

Pretty sure you can just ask questions here. I used a throwaway e-mail account so I can’t communicate that way.

Pleasehelpme16 9/4/2016 - 6:05 pm

Hi anyone need someone to talk to I am in New York.

Pleasehelpme16 9/12/2016 - 2:07 pm

qiqi Did your ******** set up work? Did you get a chance to try it out? I just ordered same or very similar set up from Amazon.

qjqj 9/12/2016 - 5:29 pm

I have not really done much with it besides hook it up and check that the air is coming out where it should. That particular regulator is a single stage, which means that as the tank empties, the rate of flow will probably lower slowly. I got an 80 cubic foot tank, which is big enough that I’m pretty sure I don’t have to worry about that too much.

Pleasehelpme16 9/12/2016 - 9:25 pm

qjqj I ordered a 60 foot tank. I plan on using the tubing that comes with it and an oven bag with drawstring and toggle plastic piece from a craft store to get a snug enough fit sit in a chair with flow rate at 15 to 20 lpm? Does that sound right to you? I am in NY where are you located if you don’t mind me asking?

qjqj 9/13/2016 - 5:35 pm

That all sounds about right. 60 cubic feet will probably be fine. Should run at 15lpm for almost 2 hours which is plenty.

I’m in the US, a few states to the west of NY.

Pleasehelpme16 9/14/2016 - 11:01 am

Qjqj . How old are you are you a boy or a girl? I am 46 year old female.

nkwk88 9/15/2016 - 3:18 am

Try to leave it on longer. Maybe also listen to some music, preferably instrumental.

Pleasehelpme16 9/17/2016 - 12:10 pm

qjqj anyone??? It is not working!!!!! I got a similar set up to QiQi 60 cubic feet tank of ********, Uniweld ******** regulator, Uniweld flow reader measuring in CFH converted it to lpm so 30 . Made the bag with drawstring hose that came with it is not filling up the bag really. Put it over my head sitting up when full breathing in and out no feeling of passing out at all!!! I am soooo freaked out. I just spent $300 and it is not working. I have to go. I want to go peacefully and now it is not working. Why????????????????? Why??????I can;t caught a break!!! I am freaking out. What am I doing wrong. Is the tank not really 100% nitrgen??? I asked especially for it to be 100% not a mixture of 75%. I don’t know what I am going to to now!!!!!! Help me please!!!

jiwa 11/30/2016 - 5:13 am

Are you Christian tried to scare people to not doing it and pferer them to suffer from torture longer than already been? I am just asking?

jiwa 11/30/2016 - 5:15 am

My bad. I take my words back

dishitout 11/9/2016 - 1:45 pm

Do I actually need a regulator to control the flow or is just a flow-meter better? From what I’ve read, regulators only cuts flow if it reaches a certain pressure, and have no control over the actual amount of gas.

So do I need both or just flow meter?
And if I need both, what do I set the regulator (assuming I need it in psi?) to? That’s the info I can’t find!
Thanks a lot

qjqj 11/10/2016 - 6:57 pm

Flowmeters are technically optional, regulators are not because only they connect to the tank (using a CGA 580 fitting). Regulators don’t tell you the rate of flow though; it seems like they do but it’s different. The flow rate you want is 15 litres/min (the flowmeter I mentioned above goes up to ~35lpm). You may have to do unit conversions depending on the flowmeter.

ljanet 11/14/2016 - 10:16 am

Hi, I have made a decision of going out using ******** rather than waiting for the illness to take me. Finally got my affairs in order. But I am having real difficulty getting a ******** tank and assorted flow regulators etc. I am based in London. Tried BOC–wrong size, wrong pressure, don’t sell to public, and even if they did, they don’t sell parts. Looked around hardware stores, no luck. There are some flow regulators on eBay, but all out of China, so not sure of quality. Can someone please help? I do t know where else to turn… Where can I buy these things of good quality? Thank you

qjqj 11/15/2016 - 5:21 pm

I would try looking for welding supply stores. Just enter “welding supply” in google maps around your location, and then hopefully some will have websites detailing what they have. Amazon might have some suggested product pairings in the UK as well, which is what I used.

energetik 11/24/2016 - 9:22 am

Despite the news of a success when I read about this technique, I personally consider it a scam for all who are like me. I followed the instructions to the letter, bought a 20L ******** tank with controller and tubing and plastic for hermetic threading. I have several times tried it both with a mask and with a plastic bag for three minutes which I could normally held my breath for breathing ******** not to get brain damage. And in all those times there was not a hint for a consciousness loss. It is just a scam and I do not see it any other way.

ljanet 11/25/2016 - 9:14 am

Did a bit more ******** digging in local shops and thoroughly confused on 2 points.

1. What is the safe/correct *pressure*?? (Seems different countries sell industrial gasses at different pressure.) Flow rate of 15 lpm is covered in Betty’s Mad Dog video, but not the pressure. She does say that their tanks are at 2,000 psi, but that’s by the by. Tanks sold in UK appear to be ~3,350 psi. A pressure regulator with a range of 1,500-3,000 psi is £450. But I don’t know what correct or safe pressure is. Can anyone please advise?

2. The Mad Dog video says their cylinder is 3kg. That doesn’t specify if that’s of gas or total (guessing total)… I found some cylinders that are 2 cubic meters, 3.75, and 9.57. I am told that the 3.75 cubic meter cylinder has gas weight of just under 5kg, and cylinder with gas weighs 37.5kg. So how many cubic meters of gas is a good amount with a solid margin of error?

Thank you.

ljanet 11/25/2016 - 9:15 am

Also, is 99% pure ******** enough or do I need to go up to 99.9%?

rocketman 11/25/2016 - 10:28 am

Hello JakeWantsToSmile,

We live in the same place, no wonder you want to die!!! 🙂 I like your post very truthful, this is my method as well, it is 100% deadly, but you are doing it wrong you have to be. Pretty smart you are! welding supply! you did research! JakeWantsToSmile the fact is you don’t want to die or you would be dead. far as purity no oxygen period.

godswill 12/2/2016 - 5:13 pm

Hello- I’ve noticed that a lot of people have had a problem achieving unconsciousness with the exit bag method and I have an idea that might help. All of the information tells you to place the bag over your forehead and compress it to remove all of the air inside. You then start the flow of ******** or Helium at 15 L / min to inflate the bag and then you bring it down over your head after you have exhaled completely.

What if you were to cut off a short length of tubing just long enough to go from your mouth to the outside of the bag. You could put this in your mouth just as you are ready to lower the bag over your head so that you could continue to breathe normally. This would give more time for the gas to push out any oxygen left in the bag and would allow you to place it correctly and adjust the tightness of the neck to allow the gas to flow out. When everything is set you would simply exhale completely through the tube and then just pull it out of your mouth and the bag. If you now take a deep breath of gas you should lose consciousness shortly after as you continue to breathe. Any thoughts?

Randomaccess10 2/4/2017 - 3:48 am

My life is absolute misery. I have hearing loss and I can’t even keep my eyes still. I loved life but want to end my existence.

Does anyone know how to ensure this works?
I heard with scuba mask linked to tank is effective?

Please

emmafraser 3/19/2017 - 10:28 am

I live in the UK and am so confused as to how to do this. I find it difficult to understand sometimes when it comes to the details of how to do this successfully which would be great to be able to do the first attempt. Pills or gas? Well the NHS are very careful with pills so even though that’s my preference I don’t see how I can do this so that for me leaves gas. Which one to use, what exactly do I need to buy to do this? Any advice would be much appreciated especially where to buy, thanks.

Stkoho 4/14/2021 - 8:27 am

This site still active? Anyone could answer some questions?

Abnormal.Thoughts 4/14/2021 - 11:02 am

Still have people here. Mostly not the same people though.

system 4/14/2021 - 11:33 am

The people here now (me included) aren’t going to help you plan out your suicide. a) because morally, it just doesn’t sit right and b) it’s against site rules

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