I would firstly like to say rest in peace to Oliva. For those of you who don’t know, Oliva was a 14 year old girl who made a youtube video about bullying and suicide (along with her story) before actually committing suicide.
Now for my anger / upset rant. Shortly after I found out, all my facebook pages started blowing up with hate about how selfish she was and how she was just attention seeking. My heart just fell. We are the result of billions of years of evolution, we should start acting like it. We should all start trying to understand each other rather than judge. Sorry, did I say we? I meant they. Since being on this site, I have not encountered one person who has judged me for my faults and mistakes, and I thank you all for that. I just hope that this spirit can expand and rub onto others so that maybe one day we can live in a better, more understanding world.
CPC
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We are all one, we all have our differences and opinions but when it comes down to the basic human feelings and emotions, we are all one.
And thankyou for posting that, couldn’t agree more with what you said, we have the history books to show us what has worked and what hasn’t, wars lead to more wars, deaths to more deaths. Love is the feeling everyone wants and it bring everyone together.
That’s why I like this place. No one judges you here.
Sorry but I think it’s completely understandable that people had that reaction to hearing that a 14 year old girl took her own life. Trust me I’ve debated the “is suicide selfish” issue many times, but I think if you don’t even give yourself the chance to grow up and experience life on your own before you decide to end it, you made a mistake. Doing it that young is selfish. Would you ever want to have a child and only get to see them grow for 14 years before they decided the life you brought them into wasn’t good enough? Not even get to see them make it through high school or learn to drive? It is selfish.
The “attention seeking” comment is a little more ridiculous, cutting is attention seeking, I don’t think suicide can be considered that when you aren’t alive to hear about any of the attention you’re getting. So maybe that one is a little unfair.
I rrespect your opinion ThousandCuts, but I’m not sure despair has an age. It can strike anyone at anytime, and young people often don’t have the perspective on it that we do…making their pain even harder to bear. So I guess I’m saying, I don’t agree with you.
I’m glad you’ve found people on this site to be non-judgmental CPC.
Zx
Suicide IS selfish. But that’s not really the issue is it?
The issue is that a 14 yr old kid was hurting that bad to end it all.
People say whatever they need to to alleviate a guilty conscience. Sometime they are even right. But a dead 14 yr old is still a dead 14 yr old, selfish or not
i so agree. those people… im evil for saying this but deserve to be in the girl’s place. that girl, she doesnt deserve thsoe things… no one does (well except to thsoe heartless ones).
We’re human after all, we know things. If one isnt capable in stopping himself from doing a thing not appropriate, then its the norms and morality of others to asssit, not harm in any way.
Its always sad when its someone that young, especially over something like bullying that is preventable. I mean really if you are getting bullied at school and its that bad, then change schools, home school take classes online, get your GED move away to another town. At 14 you haven’t even discovered all the things that your life could be about, life changes so much after you get out of school. Of course that change isn’t always for the better you could decide life still sucks lol but you never find out if its going to get better or not if you check out that early.
As far as selfish I think its kind of stupid to call things selfish, because well isn’t just about everything we do selfish in a way. I mean seriously if it doesn’t benifit us in some way why the hell would we do anything.
I thought selfishness was a virtue in this society.
All I know is that, when I was her age, I’m amazed I didn’t kill myself. It’s pure dumb luck I’m still alive today. I think public schools are a tool to demoralize and dissociate kids, to turn them into lifeless husks or something. At least, if my experience with it is in any way normal.
I know that I am a little late to this but I feel I have something to say. For one, how is a 14 year old suppose to change schools ore move? She was to young to understand her options and I think she felt trapped. Secondly, suicide takes courage, more courage that most people will have in their whole entire lifetime. This girl was a selfless proud hero and should be thought of as such. Every one knows that if she didn’t take her own live she would have been just another girl who no one would have given a second thought about. But becous of her selfless act she got people thinking about their actions and who knows maybe saved a live ore 2
The title says it all. R.I.P Oliva.
When people label others as attention seekers I would think for the most part that they are mostly not adults making those claims. Adults have a little more life experience and may be more inclined to see actions of kids to be more of a pyschiatric nature.
I take all suicide talk as potentially authentic, yet still may not act because I think its each person freedom to choose when to leave and when to stay.
Now when ever its about a broken love life I always tell the person this too shall pass, never kill your self over a relationship, the pain will leave.