I have always believed that Suicide is a personal choice and that it should be a lawful and valid answer for any ADULT (sorry, there is SOOOOO much drama during the teen years that if legal EVERYONE would commit suicide) that is in so much physical or psychological pain that they just want out.
If you are in so much physical pain – from an illness, injury, birth defect, etc. – that day-to-day life is a struggle and you are in constant unbearable pain, I believe that if all else has failed and you CHOOSE suicide, then you should be supported in your decision.
If you are in deep emotional pain caused by abuse, neglect, mental illness, low self-esteem, just every day life and Nothing you have tried has helped, and you are CERTAIN that you don’t want to suffer any longer, then you should be allowed to choose suicide as an answer.
I have supported people that I love and care about as they have killed themselves, knowing what they had been through and were still going through. I believed them that they could not bear another minute alive and suffering. Â When others turned their backs on them, calling selfish and weak, I supported their choice.
But now I have a delima.
My son, my ONLY living blood relative, is planning his death using the suicide bag, helium, Â and about 100 oxycodone.
I carried him in my womb for 9 and a half months and gave birth to him. Â He is all I have in this world. Â I don’t have any living relatives and no other children. Â I would die for him. Â I would do anything he needed or asked for, I love him so much. Â And now what he wants is to die. Â He has been a tormented soul since childhood. Â He “inherited” Major Depressive Disorder from me. Â I have been struggling with it since I was a pre-teen. Â I have attempted suicide once but was found by my parents after a friend came to the house insisting to see me because she was upset over a boy. Â I had not told anyone what I was doing – so there was no one to stop me. Â But my parents let this person in the house, then my room, and they found me unconscious and barely breathing, with numerous letters on the bed to my parents, my friends, and my boyfriend. Â Of course they rushed me to the hospital and they pumped my stomach and filled me up with charcoal and saved my miserable life. Â I was so disappointed. Â But following that, I was forced into treatment, therapy, and medications. Â I’m still on medications and in treatment. Â I am morbidly depressed but have not desired suicide since the day I found out I was carrying my son. Â I decided to live for his sake.
Now he is asking me to let him go. Â And for the first time ever, I do NOT support suicide as an answer. Â We have talked and I KNOW he is in deep, dark, emotional pain that has consumed him for years. Â When he was young I took him to shrinks and counselors and we tried medication, but once he was old enough to say “No” he quit all of it. Â And dammit if he didn’t go to college and get a bachelors degree in Psychology – just so he can manipulate his way out of any “forced” help.
How do I reconcile the fact that I support suicide for my friends, family, and even strangers who are suffering and want to make it all go away, but when it comes to my son I am selfish and do not want him to leave me all alone??? Â It isn’t fair for me to single him out and say it’s not right for him. Â He is truly suffering. Â He is so sad and depressed and lost and lonely and all the things that make life impossible. Â He has had the “courtesy” to let me in on his plans so that I will not be caught off-guard or call for help when I find him. Â But I am afraid that if he dies I will no longer have a reason to live either.
What can I do?
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Find a reason to live… of course the thought of “whats the meaning of life?” comes to mind… but find a reason. its not how long you live its what you do with your life. become a martyr for a good cause, make a bucket list… a pact. if you want to end it all anyway why not say fuck it, sell the house, buy an rv or whatever and “live till theres nothing left to do.” because as depressed as anyone is, they always want something. doesnt have to be material… just something. a place, a feeling, a time, an emotion. hell if you dont have money or other means. backpack america. hitchhike. if you arent afraid to die you can do anything. the fear of death holds so many people back.
Suicide is generally a secret. Send him to rehab.
It mostly an issue of consistency, and an understandable one at that. I don’t think you should feel bad about not wanting to let him go, as he’s your son the situation is vastly different from any of the others.
As far as what you should do, well, like with any case involving a suicidal person i think you should try to decide weather the suffering he’s going through is irreconcilable. He told you, his mother, about this so obviously he trusts you, and since you’ve also been depressed you can understand the way he feels. Could you try reaching out to him? Perhaps together you can work through his problems.
I think it’s a false choice to feel you need to reconcile your desire to see your kid live and succeed and make a better life for himself, and to reconcile how you think unrelated adults have the ability and freedom to make their own choice.
You can still believe both are true and have a very strong preference that your child NOT choose to exit. In short – you LOVE him. and that rumps all and therefore is held to a higher standard. many things both good and bad happen in the name of love … it’s emotional, not necessarily rational … and therefore cannot always be rationalized away.
He has been honest and has lived up to an honorable standard by including you in his plan … that does not necessarily mean that you are “required” to be “okay” with his choice … if he can get through college and overcome all the issues to get a bachelor’s degree … he can continue on to achieve and overcome so much more … try to make him see this and let him know that you will be there every step of the way to do everything you can to assist and lift him when things get hard.
but the one thing you cannot “give” is “permission” … that is different for not “understanding.
all the best
family dawg
YOW! I got some hate mail for my post, I wasn’t prepared for that.
Basically the person blasted me for having a child when I already knew I had a mental illness.
They also called me “scum” and made some rude suggestions.
The moderator sent it to me instead of posting it so that I could accept or delete it.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I am not making excuses, honestly, I did NOT know that my depression is hereditary.
I was sexually abused, molested, and raped from infancy to the age of 13 by multiple members of my family – THANK GOD my mom, dad, and brother were not involved – and my depression and self-abuse was explained away by the shrinks as being due to the childhood abuse.
If I had even suspected my depression would be passed down to my children, I would NOT have had any.
I hope you can understand that 29 years ago, no one believed Depression was hereditary.
As for getting my son help, he is almost 30 years old and he has a Bachelors Degree in PSYCHOLOGY.
He can run anyone around in circles and IF I took him to the local mental health facility for help, by the time it was all said and done, I’d be admitted and HE would be leaving for home.
He’s been accepted to the Masters Degree program at University of Texas and he is in the collegiate National Honor Society.
He is extremely smart and clever and manipulative and knows his way around the tests and other methods of diagnosing mental illness.
Thank you, EVERYONE, for your efforts to offer advice, support, or just an opinion.
Even the person who called me scum for having a child in the first place, you are entitled to your own opinion.
i like your attitude. call it “constructive criticism” if you want but you shouldnt be attacked that way for expressing how you feel. but i admire how you cant accept opinions and not get all “woe is me” about every little thing. i try to be this way as often as possible.
Rehab here is a joke.
I’ve already sent him once, when he was still a minor and i had a little control over him (legally).
They did nothing at all to help him.
They pretty much warehoused him and made him attend classes so that he would not get behind in school.
But they did not make him attend group counseling or individual counseling.
They didn’t even do art therapy.
They did not address his major depression and suicidal desires at such a young age.
They kept him until the insurance ran out, then discharged him with recommendations for anti-depressants.
NOW he REALLY has the upper hand – He is no longer a minor and has a Bachelor’s Degree in Psychology and has been accepted to the Masters program at the University of Texas in Austin.
He can run rings around the intake people here at the “psych ward” and by the time he is done, he will be driving home and they will be looking for me to admit.
I even enlisted the help of my psychiatrist friend, to try to get my son admitted to a hospital or convince him to go to counseling, but he could not convince my son of the merits of continuing to live.
But all of this is irrelevant now.
I found my son dead, in his bed, Monday 10-08-12.
He was 29 years, 129 days old.
Much too young to be dead at his own hand – especially since he did not have any physical diseases such as Cancer, HIV, or any other “painful, dying slowly with no cure in sight” reason to give up.
He gave up because he had been denied LOVE from another, a mate, a significant other, a spouse, a soulmate.
Even though he had family and friends that love him, he felt utterly alone and unloved because “Love” has alluded him – or tricked him – time and time again.
I can honestly say I understood his pain and hopelessness.
We were very close and he shared almost everything with me, including his pain over being alone, without a lover, at a time when most of his friends are married and having kids.
He had sex almost every night of the week, with a variety of women and young girls (over 18), even with some couples, but could not make a “connection”, a deep, meaningful relationship with someone who would love him, completely and honestly LOVE HIM for who he was on the inside as well as the outside.
The pain was almost palpable, tactile and it consumed him.
He was a poster on this site over the past several months, but I do not know what name he used.
If the ADMINISTRATORS can help me, I would GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
Thank you.
I am so sorry for your loss.
Thank you Everyone, for your words of support, wisdom, bullshit, concern, or for your opinions.
I especially appreciate Dawg and Scar504 and NewDawnFades.
And you too Beckyj, Thank you.
The person who attacked me and told me I should die for giving birth to a child even though I have suffered from Major Depression since an early age, that was the “bullshit” I referred to.
Gratefully, the administrators allowed me to delete that one because it was such a vicious personal attack.
Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts on every subject under the sun.
But that person said that I was the Sum Total of all my son’s problems – EVERYTHING was MY fault, for “knowingly” passing my bad genes on to an innocent child.
In 1982, when I got pregnant with my son (at the age of 21), I did NOT know my mental illness could be inherited by my son.
My shrink and my therapists all thought it was the result of childhood torture and extreme physical, sexual, and emotional abuse.
My doctors DID NOT know my son might inherit my depression then either – or they didn’t tell me.
They DID tell me to avoid artificial sweetners, caffeine, tobacco (not a smoker), alcohol (not a drinker), and to QUIT taking my anti-depressants and my anti-psychotics (for night terrors), and to avoid recreational drugs (not a drug user).
I did everything I could to ensure that my fetus grew into a healthy baby, and that my baby was born healthy, and continued to grow up healthy.
But by the time my son was in grade school, his teachers were calling me, saying that he was talking about how he wanted to die because no one liked him and he was lonely.
NOW we know mental illness can be genetic.
If I had known that THEN, I would have been sterilized because I would NEVER want ANY child that I loved and cared for to go through what I have gone trough for over 40 years.
I would have adopted or gone childless.
Which I did anyway…. I adopted another son and took in many Foster children, and I loved and nurtured ALL of them just as if I had carried them in my womb and given birth to them.
I still hear from all of them, I am still close to all of them, except one of my “baby girls” who is now legally declared a missing person.
She was abducted from a parking lot in Austin and never seen or heard from again.
I pray every night that she either escaped or died a quick merciful death, too afraid to even imagine what some sick freak might be doing to her (or might have put her through before he killed her).
So I must be a pretty good mom?????
My son felt close enough and safe enough with me to tell me about his unending suffering and that he was going to leave me.
That’s something, huh?
I LOVE him with every bone in my body and every beat of my heart, and even though his actions have caused me more pain than all my 15 years of childhood abuse, somewhere deep in my heart I am consoled by the knowledge that he is not suffering any more.
I can’t admit that to anyone but you, because no one else will understand.
But my son is finally at peace.
My pain goes on, but at least my beloved son suffers no more.
You did everything right. This is not your fault. People like you and your son know more than most that matters of the mind are at best a mystery. I hope you have someone to help you in this time
You had every right to have had your son. Just cause some holier than thou douche saysyou shouldnt have because *gasp* youre human and had your idiosyncracies is no reason to feel guilty. I dont know you, but you hqve my condolences.
Im ready for my journey into the void as well, but i just couldnt do that to my mom. If she dies before me though, ill have nothing left to hold me back. Ur a strong woman. If i had informed my mom of my plans she wouod lose it. Keep on keepin on