This aint no religeous site or forum. But y’all should please be reminded that God does exists and he still oversea the state of things in this planet. The world is too small to absolve him. Your present situation on earth would stand irelevant compared to what lies in the great beyond. You shouldnt give up on God. Cus he is and would always be. Could anyone please tell me something. If it is possible for humans to exist with a special intelligence that supercedes that of all other creations why do we find it hard to believe that a more supreme and supernatural being exists. Or do we in our own human sillyness rule out the fact that all the brilliant sciences of man is still unable to explain some things about the universe and the creation.
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Uhhhhh. No.
“Or do we in our own human sillyness rule out the fact that all the brilliant sciences of man is still unable to explain some things about the universe and the creation.”
>Still
>Implying sciences don’t rely on babysteps to advance
Dude, learn your shit before posting. Science is asking the right questions before it can find the right answers and frankly you just sound closed minded when you assume that because we don’t understand something, we are incapable for not believing in it.
lololol saying god made this or that is not proof. Science nor god is able to explain a lot. The bible is a lot of lies. Think about it the books in the bible are what some guys during the B.C. era who said they were chosen and heard the voice of god. Then they wrote down what they were supposedly told. Now thousands of years later, hundreds of versions later you expect me to believe the EDITED words that some guys im the middle east supposedly heard fro an omnipotent being? For being an omnipotent being he sure fucke up hos grand scheme by allowing his greatest angel to fall, for allowing other angels to come down and sleep with mortal women, for allowing his fallen angel to gather strength. For being all knowing he is either pretty damn foolish or he’s a fucked up fucker who deided to torment his creations oh what a loving all powerful
Some humans need God to live functionally.
Some need Vodka!!
Ah, my bad! We already had enough God-jokes!!
I prefer fireball whiskey!
some of you clearly need to research a little something called: “the problem of evil.”
And much, much more.
My take on it is this:
If there were an all good, all powerful God, he would know exactly what he created, and he would know that we cannot handle such suffering, and he would know we are but humans, flawed and full of mistakes, unable to comprehend what “He” will not show us. Why would he blame and punish such an obviously lesser and inferior being, for not understanding what we’re not allowed, or even capable of understanding? If he is good, he would not. If he knows what he made (such a mess!), then he, mr. all good, all powerful, all knowing, would truly understand our actions, and would forgive us all, even if we’ve hurt many people.
This is all hypothetical, of course, and as an atheist (anti-theist, actually, because not only do i lack any belief in any “God,” i also think that no one else should believe such nonsense, which makes me against theism entirely), i get really tired of wasting my time and energy on thoughts, writings, discussions, arguments, and navigating the theistic systems put in place by believers.
I do not want to spend time and energy on something that obviously does not exist… but i am surrounded by an atmosphere of imposed theology and “religious” dynamics, which i did not create, did not choose in which to participate, and cannot simply go elsewhere, to escape. It is rampant, widespread, and infests every area of the world… so i have no choice but to remain trapped in this crap that forces me to waste my time explaining what people should be learning on their own… but, people who want to believe, avoid finding the truth, rather than asking the right questions, and discovering the answers they don’t want to find.
The only “God” that exists, is the “meme,” the idea of a divine being, which resides permanently and exclusively in our minds.
Seriously people, do research… that is, if you really want to know what truth is.
Otherwise, keep pretending you know, keep insisting what you believe is real, and stay an enemy of truth, reality, and progress.
God’s here, on this very site
Not Jesus this time, but calimike
God’s 5150’d in San Rafeal psych playin’ Wii
Yesterday from an E.R. at a quarter past three
Yes, I always listen solemnly to the words of the all-mighty calimike. Was wondering where he puttered off to … 5150’d, eh?
Yeah his pops turned him in. Feels bad man.. 🙁
He’s cali crazy certified and has joined the brotherhood of those branded with the 5150 :3 wanna join? Get cali crazy certified~
Ouch. Just read his post. “Chronicles from The 5150” it should have been titled.
Obviously, we haven’t learned everything yet. There are things we don’t know. There are probably things we can’t know, and can’t measure.
But in the absence of a suitable explanation for a phenomenon, you can’t just automatically substitute “god” for an answer. That’s insane, and absurd.
Just because we don’t yet know something, it means God? What!? That will *never* make sense.
And, how do you know we’re “special” and “supercede” all other beings? Have you ever fought a bear? How about a tiger?
Sure, we might be smartest, but we’re definitely not the “hardest.”
And if you really pay attention to the world, you’ll realize that intelligence is certainly not the most important aspect or feature. Just look at Idiocracy, for example. It doesn’t take intelligence to produce lots of offspring and a huge family tree, thereby out-populating the intelligent ones who realize there’s more to life than making babies.
We started from zero, and from zero, claims of Gods were made.
To all those claims, my response shall be: “Prove It.”
And until you have proof, your claims cannot be represented as “true,” or attain any status higher than “claims.” Outrageous unverified claims, utterly lacking any supporting evidence, are not sufficient to replace actual answers.
Theism demands proof from science, but none from itself. Science was built for asking all the questions and finding all the answers, because theism could not sufficiently explain anything… and even worse, lied about most of what it did try to answer.
The only reason religion exists, is because people need something to believe, so that they won’t give up when things go too wrong, and become too harsh. It’s all about a comforting consolation fantasy, to provide false hope of another existence beyond this one, and to lessen the value of our finite time here.
And, someday, if i die and meet God, and find out there is one… then if he is anything close to what is described, then he will know he made me the way i am, he will know why, and understand, all of my choices and actions… he will know he made me intelligent enough to ask questions, rather than just settling for unsupported claims. He will know he made me too intelligent to accept outrageous claims without proof, or at least strong evidence. He will know he never acted within his all-powerful capabilities, to show me he existed, and so, being infallible, that must be what he wants… and so why would a perfect infallible being blame me for being exactly the result he intended to create?
Suffice to say: i’m not even slightly worried. If there is a god, no one has properly defined it yet. If there is a god, he surely knows he made atheists and anti-theists, and he surely knows it’s unreasonable to expect intelligent beings to believe anything without evidence, especially since he supposedly created this world full of deceptive and untrustworthy people.
If he exists, then he knows what’s up around here… and i’m certain he would blame those causing the suffering, and causing the sources of the problems that lead to so much of it, rather than those who simply “doubt” or simply cannot comprehend something we’re not designed to understand.
Otherwise… there is no god, and we are on our own, and need to learn to help ourselves, because there is no one else “out there” to help us make this world better.
We need to learn how to ask the right questions, and ask them, and do useful things with the answers we are able to find… instead of trying to “just believe hard enough” and waiting for “miracles” to save us all.
That is not the right question? Sounds like IRobot talk XD oh and bears are godless killing machines o-o
Bears are smarter than me. I require toilet paper, for example.
Heh. iRobot huh? I haven’t seen that in ages. I think i watched it once… but i might have only half-watched it.
Sure, we have computers and cars and guns and bombs, but…
Some of us are still stupid enough to walk up to a bear and get mauled! Obviously that means we’re not much better than them. We’re just smarter.
I see stupid guys with muscles bangin all the stupid chicks with skimpy dresses, ALL THE TIME… but the smart ones are at home writing about how much the world sucks, and planning to off ourselves.
Are we really that “special?” Darwinism is still obvious in our species, to a high degree. The fittest thrive and proliferate, while the weakest slide down slippery slopes, off the edges and into oblivion. Sure, there are exceptions… but there’s the exception rule: “there is always an exception (even to this rule),” so that’s accounted for.
Anyway, the point is that for anyone paying attention, there is overwhelming evidence to suggest that god does not exist, and virtually zero to suggest that he does.
I can’t help but wonder where we’d be, today, had no resources ever been squandered on theism… or how things might change, were that problem corrected now.
I wonder what would the world be if the library of alexandria had not be destroyed. If great thinkers were not labeled herectics and put on the execution block. If there had been no dark ages….if all those manuacripts and scrolls full of calculations, designs, theories, and other such things had not been burned along with their writers….ah but such is the way of “gods” people. Scream about how god is great and on your side and kill anyone who doesnt agree. God is on americas side in the wars on terrorism o.o well i hear that allah is on their side….hey wait isnt that the same deity? Oh my how interesting.
Pretty much the same I’d guess. Slaves are smart they looted all the good stuff from the Library of Alexandria straight away. By the time Adam 12 got there, there was only 8-tracks of Abba and a few wood tablets of soft porn. The Slaves’ decendants used the scrolls of calculations to get their jobs at PARC and later became the senior architectural fellows at Apple, Inc..
Coitus you’re so smart ;o;
What I didn’t learn from bears, I learned from architectural fellows at Apple.
😮 Oh my!! What an interesting conversation I have stumbled upon here, this shit’s the bee’s knees!! The bee’s knees man!!
Yes it’s line our pockets with pearls of wisdom and drink deeply from the cup of knowledge Thursday. Here forsaken1 *passing the chalice* chug this. The pawn shop’s only open ’till ten I gotta go.
Hahahaha ;o; do i have to sacrifice an eye to drink from the chalice? Haha
O yes!! O god yes!! I’m drunk on knowledge!! Now come coitus on the fountain of youth…
* on TO the
Recyclables get sorted into the bins ‘neath the cloth covering the altar of calimike. Virgins being bused in for debauchery to begin at sundown, sharp.
Consider this my rsvp, byob?
You betcha. Shake out your loin cloth and be here in your best toga.
@Lesswill – We have free will to believe or not believe in the Almighty. I choose to believe as you have and walk through this life by faith. I haven’t always done this and have spent many years justifying my selfish actions through my own thought processes. I agree with you and commend you for posting. It is not a popular opinion with some of your responders as you can see from the responses. It is called persecution and it continues today just as it has for centuries. It is a matter of choice. Personal choice to believe or not believe. My thought is if a person posts a comment on here or starts a thread then you can post your comment as well as this is a public forum. But why do we feel the need to tear down what someone else posts? Seeking the path of least resistance is the easy road but as believers it is not so because we have to lay down our will for God’s will to work through us. Not a popular or easy thing to do. It says in his Word, “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it”.
lol mini don’t forget persecution had come from us and from your god fearing people. I did not mean to bash? Or did i? I just was esnared by his saying we should be reminded that god exists. I do not need to be reminded that someone out there believes their dovine being exists. It is a shame that persecution exists. From the romans killing christians, the Egyptians enslaving the people of israel to christians persecuting the muslims in the holy land to the inquisition, to the colonist who came to america and converted the “savages”. Ah but persecution will always exists from all sides.
You can’t assume that everything was created and evolved because of a magic giant man in the sky. There are lots of things I wouldn’t believe but am forced to simply because they exist- such as flowers, planets and aeroplanes. Even the soul. No one can understand it.
We can’t comprehend or explain it either.
There is also a lot of hell and destruction on earth, also incomprehensible.
So one thing’s for sure- there is no God.
What I wanna know is where the hell did Jesus find people named Jon, David, Paul, Matthew ect. in the middle east? O.o
Home Depot, maybe? They probably found Him on Angie’s List.
He would understand and forgive. This crowd of blasphemers
Oh reader of God’s mind,
Please go jump into a lake.
That is our dearly departed friend
Forsaken one well loved he was
That you’ve condemned here
Judge not lest ye be judged