My appointment is roughly 24 hours away and it will be the first time I’ve gone to a therapist/doctor – now I’m wondering: if I mention my recent failed attempt(s) and my true thoughts will they commit me to hospital? Â My attempt a week ago failed then two days later I was thwarted by a recently installed fence preventing me to simply hop into an exit.
The appointment is with a psychologist however, she works with a psychiatrist in the same office.  Honestly, I’m not even sure how I’ll feel speaking to this individual even though she was quite comforting during the initial telephone call so given this, do I even bring it up?  This may seem a silly question but I’m 43 and have  never hired a shrink.  My worst fear in this step is if I open up and discuss what I feel and what I have done that they’ll urge or in the worst case scenario take legal action to have me placed in hospital.  I could not deal with that right now as 1) the financial burden arising from it would simply be too much 2) I’m actively seeking employment and while on benefits you *must* be available the entire week – hospitalisation would deduct benefits for that period of time which, I just can not afford 3) it would seem to me as just another typical way of me failing.
I have not reached for this sort of assistance so I owe it to myself to see where it leads after all, death is the final option … I still have this *one* remaining. Â If medication is suggested I’ll accept this as part of the option but, hospitalisation … this is just unacceptable.
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The buzzword question that gets you sent to the looney bin 100% is…drumroll please…Do you have any immediate plans of suicide? (Next 3 Days) In the US that is garenteed lock you up. That goes on you’re record too that you’re mental. Good luck with background checks if that happens. I suggest not going Into much more details than “I WISH I WAS DEAD” just so they know your level of distress. When I went in I told her like yea I’ve thought about killing myself with so and so method but I can’t do it yet because I have to sell all my stuff…yada yada. The immediate thing is really the trip as far as I could tell.
Understood. I’m also considering simply cashing out the small amount in my 401k and using that to pay for this rather than allowing insurance to cover the bill. Any more, one single reference of “psych” on any record and it seems you receive the proverbial “screw” … and not the good one.
Oh, and yeah – I’m in the good ‘ole U S of A so having something like this on a record is of concern.
Going to a therapist is okay on insurance. Getting a 5150 and having the cops come to take you to the state mental hospital is not. It shows on your record as a 5150…the police file a report and all this and that its a bit of a big deal. If you don’t comply they will take you by force.
That’s how it is more or less in California. Dunno about your state specific laws and I’m sure the police code for an involuntary hold is different in your state.
Ok … I had to look up “5150” – so it’s the state code number (code as in “on the books” – California Section RCW 5150) … got it. Here in WA it’s covered under RCW 71.05 and allows for it to be registered as such even when: the doctor advises the patient to be admitted and the patient happily trollops on over to HarborView – the doctor can still register it as a 71.05 and ya know: That’s pretty sh*tty. So basically she can say “yeah hun … awwwwe … *pats me on the back* … I know doll. Let’s go on to hospital to getchya taken care of, mmmmkay?” and I’m all “well … okay then *sigh*” then I get all signed in and she can register it retroactively as involuntary hold under RCW 71.05. Yeah … not cool.
No, I’ll not be discussing the when’s and where’s and how’s of the the topic.
Hahaha sometimes i forget 5150 is only the universal code
For california crazy. If you ever see that as a tattoo now you know. 5150 under
The california code that allows an authority to hold someone for 72 hours i they are believed to ge a danger to themselves or others.
I was never brought in by police o.o but they still filed me under 5150 every time ahahaha had security on my ass in case i ran then oaramedics would haul me away u.u
Hey so the paramedics came n got you? Or like what happened. I’ve had threat of filing a 5150 on me from my pops cause I mentioned I was planning on offing myself…kinda out of a consideration typa thing in a way I guess. Like I thought the shock factor might fuck them up…better to get them acquainted with the idea rather then a sudden knock on the door and yea your son killed himself. Less of a dick move.
That is pretty shitty, there is no way I am getting life insurance without an exclusion but I don’t think we get a record on our side of things….
Yes they call paramedics from my health insurance providers behavioral health center and they haul me away ._. They explained the paper work about how its an involuntary hold and stuff, when i was at the hospitals theyd read my file and say “oh you wrre brought in on a 5150 so we’re keeping you for 72 hours. After 72 hours they like keeping me for a couple more days :L i think i spent my 5150 in an psychiatric ICU after my trip to the ER the to the regulat mental ward for a week. Fuck yeah they enjoyed keeping me lol
And not many life insurance policies exist for people who attempted suicide….since back in the day people committed suicide to cash in for family they’ve made it so only a proven accident gets money. If you get a policy and the company knows your suicidal or mental problem history, you will not get accepted or you will have a probationary period where after like 5 years they will pay if you die in an accident.
Wow your certified California Crazy ahah. Dang they got you an extra week after too…they musta loved you hah. So they make you take pills in the nuthouse or wha? N how’s the chow is it better than jail food or airplane food?
Yes they make you take pills if your doctor orders it and you agree. You can refuse and talk to your doctor. If you are under high security or a teen they check your mouth to see if you took it. I am california crazy certified :3 i want to get tyat as a tat soon not sure where yet, not too damn visible lol. Foods actually good. Lots of juice and snacks and food.
Understood about the life insurance. I have far surpassed the suicide exclusionary period and as my policy is paid in full I’m good to go on that one (2-years). But I do recall the insurance forms presented to me well over a decade ago: “Have you ever attempted suicide? Have you ever thought about suicide? Are you depressed or suffering from depression? If you were depressed would you attempt to harm yourself?” I laughed about it at the time because I had *just* began dealing with almost taking a swan-dive into a Metro train. Now if I were to apply I am sure they would check police records along with my medical reports for evidence of “potential claim opportunities”. Kinda funny really: I had not thought about it but if for some reason I eventually decide to exit then I should max out that pretty little amex along with the others on wild-*ss gifts and such – there will be plenty of insurance dough to cover the bills. Keep me in your contact list! ha ha
Good food …wow. if you won’t regret it go for it keep in mind what its prolly gonna look like when gour old. On a girl I think it would be good like below belly button and across…just what’s that gonna look like in 30 years lol better stay fit. I assume your a girly making :3 faces n all .
Guess again ._. I like faces but im a boy. I’m an so vet o: been here way too long longer than most on here. And i plan to get it on the inside of my lower lip d:
Ah…inside a the lip man good luck with that
Initial intake forms completed. Sitting here sipping an herbal tea waiting for someone to come to the fancy oak door and say “hi. Come on in.” I’ll give them another 10 minutes then I’m outta here.
I went in. Chatted politely about this and that and mentioned the attempts although, I referenced it as “years ago”. Talked about how I was feeling and it did seem as if we clicked in a way. She was polite and smiled when the mood seemed to require it be done. She nodded her head almost mechanically again, when the atmosphere demanded that social action. And when I departed I left by a nondescript door at a far hall. The rest of the day I felt somewhat more upbeat yet still I knew inside I was that same excuse of a human being that would fail yet again on my very next project.
I spoke with my brother the next day and told him everything but retained the “years ago” time frame and after I finished my speech he seemed somewhat caring. But hey, we all do after a talk with someone but, soon within hours or a few short days everything is back to what is was. So here I am again. Same place. Same phone that has not rang in days. Same human that fails at everything. And I sense an old friend returning: that same desire to simply “exit”.
I did receive a txt message yesterday with the picture of an acquaintance smiling into the camera, sun shining in the background over the water and birds flying in the distance and in a brief moment I smiled and thought to myself, “wow. I’m so glad she-” then immediately a new txt: “Sorry. Wrong person.”.
Yes, everything is back to “normal”.