I woke up this morning not long ago and decided to head to SP to see today’s posts. I noticed I had a fair amount of responses to my post last night. As I was reading them, a couple of users were talking about a topic that made me stop dead in my tracks and literally say ‘wow’. I feel everyone should take a look at this and give me there thoughts, because I really wish I had the answers.
” I’ve noticed one thing…a whole lot of awareness. Too much, I think. And intelligence. And thoughtfulness. A lot of very smart, sad, interesting, hyper-aware people. ”
“I lost my brother and he was this way. Extremely creative, intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate, and felt so so deeply.”
^^^^^^ Why is this. I fit this description to a T. Why do people who fall into this paradigm feel the way we do. Is it because we feel things that the average person blindly going through life does not feel? Do these people have a level of understanding of the world and themselves that others do not? Does the brain chemistry of folks like this make them have higher standard for themselves as people? I don’t know the answers. But the consistency of this shows there is definitely something there.
Big thanks to everyone so far who has responded to my posts and especially those who gave the quotes listed above. Definitely some food for thought.
-Frank
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I find your question pretentious and the attitude repugnant. Plenty of people who fit that description aren’t suicidal, plenty of people who are suicidal may not fit that description. Its such an elitist attitude oh we are just more intelligent, deeper, more thoughtful, we have a greater understanding of the world, our greater awareness is what makes us depressed and suicidal while the “average” people just blindly go through life never understanding. We are more compassionate, we feel things so much more strongly…Ok so it is our superiority that makes us depressed, now I understand.
Well you clearly either misunderstood the question or rather you did understand it and just took it the complete wrong way. There is no superiority complex nor do I think I am superior over anyone. There is no attitude intended in what I posted. However, you caught me on a very special day today, so instead of arguing further I am simply going to wish you the best of luck in life and that you yourself also find whatever peace you may be searching for – short term or long.
Frank
The high road…very nice,Frank. Some of us here are closer to abject misery and rabid despair than others and THOSE individuals may have a lot more difficulty NOT being a flaming fucktard …or a grumpy gus…just an observation…I find -just for myself,mind you-that the high road isnt very fun at all;) but I can certainly admire and respect it in YOU.
I appreciate the kind words sir.
Superiority? The only word that was potentially insulting was “blindly,”and even THAT can be taken to indicate that they do not see the meanness or injustice of everyday human interaction and bleak existence of the weak or poor or that they do see it,but are resistant to the sickening affects others like myself manifest(particularly animal cruelty and factory farming for me) This is a blessing -not meant insultingly. Those who dont struggle with emotional turmoil or dont have a hypersensitivity to others suffering,..they are fortunate.They can live their life without becoming crippled by sadness and fear.They maintain a balance emotionally,and are stronger and happier for it. The sentence concerning brain chemistry-meaning a chemical imbalance-can possibly be responsible for the way we are so exacting and unforgiving to OURSELVES,and have unrealistic expectations…these things most certainly ARE connected to chemical problems in the brain of many mentally ill people. I for one am sure that th majority of humans dont have the reaction that I have when I witness the atrocity of a factory farm. This despicable horror could not exist if that were so.I dont see why you feel the need to attack this person who is attempting to have a dialogue with others here,but its uncalled for and dickish. I will point out lastly that the majority of great artists and writers of extraordinary talent,and extremely gifted musicians DO IN FACT struggle with depression and outrage at the grim horror of existence and of human depravity…disregard…they are affected in a disturbing way emotionally by what they see and feel.There is much evidence of this phenomena and many to a tragic end of suicide or the long suicide of alcoholism or drug addiction. I think we discuss this quite a bit here…..since ive begun here I can recall at least a dozen such references. Oh,fuck-my hummingbird feeder just fell bc FiFi my Siamese attempted to murder a hummingbird AGAIN….must dash
I feel that most people are aware of the dangers and pitfalls in life and also the depressing side to life. But many people are able to adapt to it and keep on going. Just learn that yes life is a hard struggle but they build a resistance up to it and keep going forward… maybe optimistic that things will get better at some point in the future.
I personally don’t think it has to do will intelligence but perhaps sensitivity and over thinking a situation does play a part; if life throws crap at you then it doesn’t matter who you are or how clever you are, some will find a way of coping and getting on with life and others won’t, I find myself as one who doesn’t cope well with the stresses of life.
One point extra, I think your question is quite valid and not pretentious or repugnant at all, we have to keep asking questions and points can be discussed and agreed or disagreed upon, that’s what questioning things is all about.
I concur…these are all good questions that come up quite often on S.P.,ive noticed.we will continue to consider and discuss them ,thats how we gain others insights and possibly gain better understanding of ourselves or our condition…
I can tell you I know I don’t belong in this world because I am not like a lot of what and who I see out there. No, Im not boasting but I do know I am more caring and sincere than tyne majority out there, and when “our type” has to live alongside those who are blind, self centered, just follow the sheep, just exist…. it ads to or even causes depression.
Plain and simple…. there is definitely something to that.
This world is shit, and to be quite honest some of us are too good for it and know and feel it.
I’m with you 200% on that one Squid. In fact, that pretty much sums up my exact outlook on my own existence and surely many here can and will relate. Say, is there a PM function on this site. There is a topic you posted a day or two ago that most definitely grabbed my attention. So much, that I actually have more questions. If there is none, we can certainly continue that here, but that is entirely up to you.
Simply put, I think our own self hatred and loathing for our circumstances allows us to see the best in people, to hold them as an example of what we long to be ourselves. That’s why it’s always so sad when someone from the site finally completes the journey. We’re all good people. That, and we’re all here for the same reason – to die and express our grief to others that understand the pain of a worthless life. Pain is the greatest force towards unity.
I also think (and this is based on my own personal experiences) that because we’re such rational and empathetic people in a world that is dominated by prejudice, hatred, and evil, it makes it harder to find those in life we can relate to in the same way. Being a decent person in an indecent world is a lot of pressure to fall under.
Thank you Frank. And I hope you continue to ponder these things, to discover. I know how much my eyes have opened through all the darkness I have faced. And how much life changes. How much we change. I’m blown away by everyone’s comments. Such powerful truth. It kills me that the world might miss out on some of it’s most beautiful people, with such insight and understanding, when they are the very thing it needs. Don’t let all the people who suck take your light out of this world. We need it. I agree and also believe about the sensitivity. People who see things in an emotional way, whether it be beauty, pain, or all of it, are really able to create beautiful things. The great artists and poets. And so many other things. It is a cruel fate that depression can plague such beautiful minds. But I know you are all survivors. And I’m so glad to be able to discuss these things that we don’t get to talk about everyday. Such honesty and raw emotion. Bearing what’s within our souls. As always, I speak from the heart and my own experiences and from what I’ve witnessed, so you don’t have to agree. I wish everyone some comfort. There are many quotes I love that I think tie to this subject nicely:
“The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.”
~Elisabeth Kübler-Ross
“It’s like she had a soul that was much too big for her; it filled her to the brim til there was no more space, so it flowed out through her eyes.”
~Nick Lake
“The best people possess a feeling for beauty, the courage to take risks, the discipline to tell the truth, the capacity for sacrifice. Ironically, their virtues make them vulnerable; they are often wounded, sometimes destroyed.”
~Ernest Hemingway
“Like most sensitive souls, you already know you’re sensitive. You soak up other’s moods and desires like a sponge. You absorb sensation the way a paintbrush grasps each color it touches on a palette. The ethereal beauty of a dandelion, the shift of a season, the climax of a song, or a certain stirring scent can awake such wonder they’ll become your very breath itself – moving through you as fuel does to fire and wind does to waves.”
~Victoria Erickson
“She’s got a heavy heart, a messy soul, a reckless mind, and I think it’s beautiful the way she carries herself.”
“Beauty of whatever kind, in it’s supreme development, invariably excites the sensitive soul to tears.”
~Edgar Allen Poe
“How you make others feel about themselves says a lot about you.”
There are so many more, but I leave you with this:
“I want to pick all the dead flowers growing in your heart to take all the sadness away and plant lovely lilacs and roses covering every inch of your soul to give you all the happiness someone as lovely, as you deserves.”
Namaste.