Police, paramedics, forensic scientists, none of these will clean a crime scene. If you kill yourself in your home, your body could sit there for some time while investigators rule out murder and/or robbery.
The body makes a huge mess, there is a lot of blood. If you shoot or cut yourself, you will leave a very large mess behind and by the time your premises are cleared to enter, your blood has started to solidify and soak into any dry space.
Like I said, none of those servicemen will clean the scene that you left. Your next of kin is expected to clean the mess, with no real knowledge on how to handle biohazard safely. They have the trauma of your decision to take your own life, then must re-live the horror by cleaning the scene.
Please, think off all involved before making such a final decision.
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Police and paramedics are trained to witness and act when faced with that type of scenario.
Thats right, but they will not clean the scene once the body has been removed, they expect your family or friends to clean it. There are trained path cleaners who are very expensive that can be called in to clean, but so many people dont know this.
I don’t know how it works, but isn’t it a widespread health issue if the scene isn’t cleaned properly and diseases develop? I would think the authorities would not place that much stake in a traumatized family to disinfect thoroughly and effectively. Speaking in terms of a body being mutilated or blown apart by a gun.
Wouldn’t the protocol be similar as if the person was murdered, I would think after gathering all the evidence they could they wouldn’t make the family clean it up.
They might be trained to deal with the scene. But have seen too many that can’t deal with it and even present with PTSD
We never know how we will react until faced with the situation. All the training in the world cant prepare you for some scenes.
Unfortunately they do. Youre right, diseases can still be present in the bodily fluids and can be spread. After a murder, or suicide, the body is removed and the doors are nailed shut and the house preserved as further investigation may be needed. Once the case is closed and next of kin is informed, its up to them to clean the scene. There would be fingerprint dust, that blue shit that brings up blood that has splattered or attempted to be cleaned, protective gloves.
I think more people are onto the gap in services and many ex-cops or paramedics have started bio and path cleaning companys.
Check out a series called crime scene clean up or life of grime.
Well, then I suggest we go elsewhere to make the mess. I for one, mess or none, don’t plan on making a loved one find me or clean up after me. Therefore, I’m not going to do it in my home. Why bring the resale down with the stigma of what I did? I’ll be taking my life outside of my home, in a place where the police will find me.
No methods. No partners. No hate, but publicly its the emergency services responsibility.
You have loved ones, cant you stay for them? They would miss you so much, I know personally.
If you must “do” yourself at home, consider being self-contained. Not suggesting a method or being a partner, just making the obvious comments about cleaning up after yourself. Amazon sells body bags if you are so inclined. Just put yourself in a bag on top of sheets of plastic to avoid the mess. This doesn’t work for the messier ends such as gunshot and the like, but for quieter ends it keeps your family from dealing with the mess to such a great extent.
I keep thinking that there must be some way to self-cremate. The problem is that the temperatures needed for complete combustion is far too high, and again it gets messy. Some engineering here might be in order to get the needed temperatures and also avoid the mess. It is an interesting puzzle.
Unfortunately, death is always messy no matter what. Your body will likely purge your colon and bladder, so there is that as well. Disgusting to leave behind for anyone. They wouldn’t miss me, they would just hate me all the more for what I did to *them*. It is always about *them*.
They will, but thats because you took the easy way out and left them behind. They may need you now, soon or in the future and they will be sad that youre not there for them.
You have a lot of thought in the process, have you considered talking to a professional?
I used to consider doing it in the yard, Id mix with the mulch and bark. After that thought and others, I decided to seek assistance from a psych. I had those thoughts for a reason, a poisoned mind, but now medicated, I have a lot of good days, but still some bad. Think of your parents, siblings, friends, workmates, school mates, they have to try and survive without another member to support and just be there.
I hope you see the point and a way to get through your dark days.
Thinking of you.
All those so-called “professionals” want to do is push pills and turn anyone with dark thoughts into a zombie with no thoughts at all. I am not interested in talking to any of them. They are all just as useless as the rest of the medical profession. Others might find them to be of use, I do not. I dislike them just as much as I dislike the rest of the human race.
Oh, and anyone that thinks suicide is the easy way out has never been in the position of many people who post here. Easy is far from the truth – it is very very hard. Most of us have been abused and thrown away or treated like crap for the bulk of our lives. Easy has nothing to do with this at all. No, actually that is not true. The easy thing here is for people like you to pass judgement and spew your squishy platitudes about what you think we need to do or think. None of that spew has a damned thing to do with anyone who is exhausted to the bone from trying to make it all work for years and years, with nothing real to live for but more of the same. Ending life is just an economic decision based on the need to eliminate waste, a failed process or a machine that is no longer useful or costing more money than it makes. Once the balance sheet goes to the negative for any person’s use or if they have a high pain index that is unsustainable, I personally think it is an appropriate response for that person to cease to exist.
If youre zombie like then your prescription is too high or you havent been on them long enough.
Youre call. If you think my want to spare someone from making the final call, spew, then I apologise. I know how offensive it gets when people start to preach on how and what to do.
For your info, I have been there multiple times and its hard as fuck to live with, even harder to make that decision and take that final step over the line. Well, once it was easy, the other times it was a very hard call and I had certain triggers or events that would make my mind up and attempt.
I know how it is to be used and discarded and I have been beyond exhausted with everything. I am sorry that you felt I was passing judgement. That is the last thing I wish to do, is to judge anyone.
I wish you all the best. Take care.
This thread makes me want to watch the comedy Sunshine Cleaning (about 2 ladies who make a living by cleaning crime scenes). And yes, if you can trust that movie, it’s a big deal cleaning up after a body.
A shrink once told me (the only insightful thing I ever learned from him) that leaving your body for someone else to find is a very hostile and aggressive thing to do. Whether you realize it or not, if you plan on leaving your corpse for your husband, wife, parents or children to find, you ARE attacking them. Even before he told me this, I had always planned on committing suicide in the the ocean or a dense forest. So yeah, I’m a real prince :/
Ha. I had a guy jump from his balconey in front of my truck one night. He was spread so far around the alley and building that the fire department were called out to clean up.
Theres a great movie called Cleaner or The cleaner with Samual L. Jackson. Similar concept but not a comedy.
That’s insane… Like any morbid suicidal freak, I’ve watched online videos of people jumping, and it’s not pretty. Seeing the carnage in person would be downright traumatic. Yeah, bodies are messy.
If you can believe it, I once found an ebay auction for a sofa that some guy shot himself on. I don’t know if it was a joke, but it looked pretty real and pretty messy. I think it sold for $50 bucks. There are some sickos in this world. Damn them for outbidding me 😉
Valid point. Hence why I am still in this miserable existence. I have not yet found the perfect way to just cease without inflicting the aftermath on anyone. Quite the puzzle. In my case it may not be a big deal soon. No kids, husband will be divorcing me soon (i hope), sister hates my guts, mom is not going to be around for much longer. After that I will be alone so not much of a problem. Just sell everything and disappear into the grinder.
Fuck.
Hahaha, would be a good conversation point.
True. Experienced it first-hand (though luckily I wasn’t the family member who had to clean up).
This is why I don’t intend on leaving a body. I’ll either kill myself in such a remote location that I’ll likely never be found or jump where I’ll wash out to sea. One day I’ll just disappear leaving nothing behind but my car and enough of a suicide note to make investigation simple. Our city’s cops rarely exert themselves in anything except running their own criminal syndicates so I’m sure they’ll read my note and wrap it up nice and quick. Then the few family members lose to me will be able to breathe a sigh of relief and get on without me holding them back.
I read an article about companies that clean up messy suicides/ murder scenes. It’s messy. Dead, bloody people are considered “hazardous waste”.
Someone has to clean that shit up.
You can hire a haz-mat team to clean up the mess you leave behind. It isn’t cheap. If you’re dead you won’t be hiring anyone to dispose of your corpse, but it will get done, and someone will pay for it.
Cleaning up suicides actually pays pretty well. It’s a lucrative field of work (albeit unpleasant if you don’t like seeing blood & guts).
Get real! Like a person in so much pain that he/she kills him/herself, cares about the mess left behind.
That said, personally, now that I’m older, I would do it in a hotel and leave a huge tip for the maid.
That said, I’m happy presently and have no desire to die.
I think suicide self-prevention is a set of cumulative “brakes” – fear of botching it, fear of pain, fear of the afterlife, difficulty in getting supplies and/or setting up, shame over hurting loved ones, …, and shame over making someone discover and/or clean up. So it’s not that the mess will stop one from killing oneself if it’s the only consideration, but with the others, it’s an additional brake that might keep the person alive another day, week, or year.
A hotel room would be good, though some methods run the danger of collateral damage. A car would also work, but with heightened possibility of discovery and interruption…
Thats why I asked the question, to provide another break, or prevention from someone doing themselves in.
My biggest fear was botching and getting caught whilst attempting. I didnt want to end up in a wheelchair or something else.
Exactly right. Someone at that point couldnt care less about the aftermath, they need release from their pain and anguish, but I thought by posting this then some people who had the tendencies may think twice before making their final decision. Hopefully.
I’m glad you’re doing well vedura, as one of the ‘seniors’ here (if I’m right in thinking you’re 70?) I kind of dread getting older as do so many in our society, (I’m 53 now), but maybe in some cases things can actually improve? Haha you never know. Sorry I went off-topic and sorry if I mistook you for someone else.
My friends father died in a messy way at home. He had to clean up the blood himself. It affected him in a bad way.