Something I have been realizing about 12 recovery recently I feel like the continuous affirmation that I am powerless seems to make me more powerless and makes my life worse. I have been going to a 12 step program for 3 years now and I never clicked with it or got any long term freedom from addiction, but I kept going because I didn’t know what else to do. The first step is to admit you are completely powerless over your addiction. I am taking a different approach now and trying to overcome my addiction. I just never felt like I was being true to myself in surrendering and trying to force myself to believe a higher power can save me. Honestly, it always felt like bullshit to me. Instead of surrendering control, I want to find my own power and regain control of my life. Is that even possible as far as my addiction has progressed? I don’t honestly know.
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Ibogaine is an effective treatment against addiction. I used it myself and it cured me from severe alcoholism. Been sober for 2 years now and its not even a struggle.
You can get it at ibogaworld.com, among other places.
Man I was inspired by your comment you made saying that a few weeks ago, so I looked into ibogaine, ordered it, and it’s on the way now. No joke 🙂
Even talked with Michelle about how to use it. Now i’m just in the long waiting period for it to arrive, because it apparently hit some long delay in Africa.
Good for you. Im very happy to hear that you are going to do this.
It really works. Plain and simple. It will interrupt your addiction and give you the clear and easy choice to not use.
Ive ordered from ibogaworld a few times. Everything has always arrived safe and sound, sometimes it takes a while though…
If I would have known about ibogaine a few years earlier, my life would have been very different now. I hope its not too late for you.
I hope it’s not too late too. I am curious about what your experience was like.
The trip is wonderful. All about God and the universe and the truth and all that.
Its like there are amazing movies being broadcast into your head.
It makes you sick for a couple days, so you have to stay in bed. It will make you vomit, and you should take it with gravol to make sure you don’t vomit up the dose.
I was helpless for 2 or three days, and I sure appreciated having a sitter there with me.
Its amazing. And it takes a bit of courage to actually go through it all.
That sounds amazing. What was the turning point for you as far as addiction recovery? Do you know what it was about the experience that allowed you to get and stay sober?
It erases physical addiction in your brain. It actually resets the brain chemistry to a non-addictiion state. Literally on the physical level.
People who use it do not go through withdrawal no matter what they are hooked on. It’s just gone.
Also, the metal realizations induced are all very supportive of clean living.
You simply develop the real choice to use or not without all the baggage that addicts carry around with them, making their ‘choices’ highly leveraged.
I think it probably helps to state your intention before you ingest it. Kind of a mission statement. It will guide you later on during the trip. Say a prayer too…if you believe in that kind of thing. I don’t wanna sound freaky here but God gets involved with this. You will see.
Mine was “I gotta quit drinking, and I hope this helps me figure out how to”
Sounds life changing. I can relate to the idea of my choices being highly compromised by the pain and baggage of life. I hope it really works for me and that I will recover, overcome my addiction, repair my life and heal. I guess that would be my statement. I’m really excited about trying it because I have been so jaded that I felt at first that there is no way this or anything would help. But after starting to research it and reading testimonials on using it for addiction and the research on it, i’m really starting to feel the hope that maybe it really does work.
It works so well you’ll be amazed at how it can be suppressed the way it is.
I gave it to someone who was addicted to crack. She’d go into withdrawal if she didn’t use every few hours.
After ibogaine, she had no desire to use at all. 0. I stayed with her for a week and she didn’t feel like using the entire time. People were coming over, offering crack to her and she turned them all down.
It works.
Did you get ibogaineHCL?
I got HCL and TA
Id really like to hear from you after you do it. This is something I find very interesting.
Are you gonna do a flood dose of HCL? I think thats the way you’re suppose to use it to completely recover from addiction.
Ok, I’ll let you know how it went after I do it.
Michelle suggested TA for me and I asked why not Hcl? and she said that TA tends to bring about more insights, and she thinks in my specific situation it would help me more. But I did mention that what i’ve read suggests that HCL is better for addiction, so she suggested 1.5g TA+ 1g HCL for the flood. I guess to treat the addiction but also bring about enough insight to change. Because most of my problem is an inability to change or let go of anything.
No kidding.
Well, that’s a heavy dose for sure. Im sure she knows best. Out of curiosity, how much do you weigh?
I did 1.6grams of HCL and I weigh 80kg.
Similar weight, i’m right around 78kg.
From what i’ve read HCL is 95+% Ibogaine and TA is only 30-40% ibogaine and has a bunch of other alkaloids in it, so I don’t think the dose is as heavy as it sounds, but I may be wrong about that.
I think you are right about that, at least generally.
How long have you been waiting for it? It usually takes 3 weeks to get to me here in Canada. But once it took 6 weeks.
Im sure you found out that you must not be high on your drug of choice when you use ibogaine and that you must not have psychiatric meds in your system.
I also think it especially helps people who have been addicted long enough to know that they truly are sick, that they can’t stop using, that they really are hopelessly trapped and lament that.
I’m definitely to that point, getting off of a psych meds first is going to really suck. I had to place 2 orders because I placed the first one for just TA and then the second for HCL a few days later. The HCL just arrived today but the TA has been held up in africa for like two weeks now.
Do you know long I have to be off of all psych meds before I can do the flood? Because i’m currently on 3, but cymbalta is the one i’m really not looking forward to trying to get off of.
I think its different for all of them. I think effexor is the quickest to one to detox from. Info readily available on google. Just search “how long to psychiactric medications take to leave your system”
I would guess in most cases a couple days would be enough time. Like, if there’s low levels of it, it probably won’t matter much.
Looked it up. 75 hour half life on abilify, shit. Although the good news is the tracking finally updated and my TA just processed into my country so I should have it somewhat soon.
Well, my email is nightowl1003@gmail.com.
Please keep me informed, I’d really like to know.
If you were powerless over your addiction, you wouldn’t have gone to a 12 step program. That’s ridiculous. Addiction is just a surrogate for natural neurological processes. Your brain has to re-learn to take the reigns that addiction has put on auto-pilot (endorphins, neurochemicals, etc). Taking an addictive surrogate is a lot easier to gain the satisfaction those natural processes provide, and it’s guaranteed, which is why it’s such an appealing option.
I get what your saying but how does me going to a 12 step program make me not powerless over addiction? I don’t follow…
How does not going make you any more or less what you are? I think the idea behind 12 step programs is to minimize the opportunities for you to blame yourself, to step backwards because you see any relapse as a fault rather than something you only have an executive control over. It makes sense, but it can also be self-defeating. I mean, the purpose of those programs is to help you stop being dependent on a chemical to replace natural neurological processes. If their answer is that you can’t do that, what is the point of a 12 step program? I don’t believe anyone is an addict for life once they’ve relied on a substance to fill some empty void in their neurochemistry. I do think there’s a reason the void needs to be filled, though, and getting to the root of that makes more sense than handing control over to some ambiguous higher power.
That I totally agree with, I think I missed what you were trying to say before.
And now I know why I love my loraxs haha