what if we lived in a world where we could comment when ever we were ready? How many ppl would still be alive? How susessful would thoughs who were living be? How would the earth look? Should we as thinking sentient being be allowed that as a right?
Just checking: “…where we could comment when ever we were ready?” I bet you meant commit suicide when ever we were ready, right? If so, great question, and we are ready to roll with that I bet.
OHHH. I was wondering what the heck “comment when ever we were ready” meant. Commit suicide makes a heck of a lot more sense. Thanks for making it clearer, a1957.
Going with commit suicide when we are ready: I have pondered these questions since childhood. My first assumption would be that like any other lawful activity we could get all the support we need to get it done up to and including death counseling for us, method assistance in every way, people to see us off, estate planning and the like.
My guess is that 99.2 percent of populations would keep going with life as it is. My guess is based on the idea that the current world wide suicide rate of .012 percent times the 33 failed attempts per suicide all becoming successful times 2 when it becomes crystal clear that the behavior was no “accident” would result in a rate of about 0.8 percent.
Those who would still be living after suicide rates fully adjusted to a natural rate, would be affected in an only modest ways I would think in the big scheme of things as they already cope with a death rate that hovers around 0.768 percent. If my guesses where right we would attend twice as many funerals as we do now.
Yes those surviving would loose a real portion of their fellow man but they already do in many passive ways that have only come into their own in last 50 years such as birth control and abortion.
I would also venture to predict that if suicide rates could jump by say 6600 percent like i guess they might that mental health might change from being “our” problem to being “their” problem in both responsibility and consequence. Then we might see the crimes committed against us that drove some of us to this place go down significantly. There actually is some movement in this direction already taking place.
Yes of course I absolutely support a right to die. Without that right we just keep reliving our horrors and the perps (when they are a factor) go on completely unawares and unaccountable in large measure. That is my take on it.
Wow, it’s hard to believe the suicide rate is so low. Then again, they make it so we can’t really get our hands on stuff that’ll actually work. Also, what about all those people who attempted and failed, but never get reported? I feel like that # should be WAY higher.
I thought about your question as I was typing this up. My attempts never got reported because I feared, not unreasonably, the consequences of them being reported. I know several others who also never had their attempts reported and probably for the same reason as myself.
The rich would never have it. If it was easy to get legal assisted suicide, the poor and downtrodden would all commit suicide en masse. And how will the rich get their dirt cheap labor?
100% true. You literally hit the nail on the head. They know that if assisted suicide was legalized all the slave wage / poor would commit suicide and then the rich and powerful wouldn’t have anybody to do all the hard work for them.
WhySkyEnd: There is much activity, in many countries, to secure right to die laws. It seems the first step is securing this right for the terminally ill. This presently looks like it is gaining momentum.
Who knows when this right will expand to any person of age and a sound mind for any reason they see fit in more than the one country where I understand it has become law.
eternaldarkness: My thinking is that the native labor pool in developed countries would shrink even faster than it is presently shrinking if free access to death became law in them. The rich would get less rich and the poor would get less poor. Aw too bad for the rich.
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Just checking: “…where we could comment when ever we were ready?” I bet you meant commit suicide when ever we were ready, right? If so, great question, and we are ready to roll with that I bet.
OHHH. I was wondering what the heck “comment when ever we were ready” meant. Commit suicide makes a heck of a lot more sense. Thanks for making it clearer, a1957.
Going with commit suicide when we are ready: I have pondered these questions since childhood. My first assumption would be that like any other lawful activity we could get all the support we need to get it done up to and including death counseling for us, method assistance in every way, people to see us off, estate planning and the like.
My guess is that 99.2 percent of populations would keep going with life as it is. My guess is based on the idea that the current world wide suicide rate of .012 percent times the 33 failed attempts per suicide all becoming successful times 2 when it becomes crystal clear that the behavior was no “accident” would result in a rate of about 0.8 percent.
Those who would still be living after suicide rates fully adjusted to a natural rate, would be affected in an only modest ways I would think in the big scheme of things as they already cope with a death rate that hovers around 0.768 percent. If my guesses where right we would attend twice as many funerals as we do now.
Yes those surviving would loose a real portion of their fellow man but they already do in many passive ways that have only come into their own in last 50 years such as birth control and abortion.
I would also venture to predict that if suicide rates could jump by say 6600 percent like i guess they might that mental health might change from being “our” problem to being “their” problem in both responsibility and consequence. Then we might see the crimes committed against us that drove some of us to this place go down significantly. There actually is some movement in this direction already taking place.
Yes of course I absolutely support a right to die. Without that right we just keep reliving our horrors and the perps (when they are a factor) go on completely unawares and unaccountable in large measure. That is my take on it.
Wow, it’s hard to believe the suicide rate is so low. Then again, they make it so we can’t really get our hands on stuff that’ll actually work. Also, what about all those people who attempted and failed, but never get reported? I feel like that # should be WAY higher.
I thought about your question as I was typing this up. My attempts never got reported because I feared, not unreasonably, the consequences of them being reported. I know several others who also never had their attempts reported and probably for the same reason as myself.
There is a movement to get assisted suicide legalized? If so nice I want in. I’d sign up in an instant.
The rich would never have it. If it was easy to get legal assisted suicide, the poor and downtrodden would all commit suicide en masse. And how will the rich get their dirt cheap labor?
100% true. You literally hit the nail on the head. They know that if assisted suicide was legalized all the slave wage / poor would commit suicide and then the rich and powerful wouldn’t have anybody to do all the hard work for them.
WhySkyEnd: There is much activity, in many countries, to secure right to die laws. It seems the first step is securing this right for the terminally ill. This presently looks like it is gaining momentum.
Who knows when this right will expand to any person of age and a sound mind for any reason they see fit in more than the one country where I understand it has become law.
eternaldarkness: My thinking is that the native labor pool in developed countries would shrink even faster than it is presently shrinking if free access to death became law in them. The rich would get less rich and the poor would get less poor. Aw too bad for the rich.