That’s a good question. There are no doubt better answers than this one but from what I see Christians, including me, don’t get any special break from suffering. I know there are teachers who say we will but that doesn’t square with what I see and really will not square with Bible teachings either. But we can still do something about our plights most of the time.
As to depression, which just aches, there are some things I have been taught to do to make it ease up. I saw your question a few minutes ago on your Bipolar Depression is killing me story you did on Jul 16. I will pull together that answer for you there tomorrow night. Depression sucks, it sure does. Bullying is no fun either.
Having spent too many decades pursuing, questioning and cursing a “god” I believed was on my side, I’m resigned to this conclusion – The story of a loving, caring deity who is available to those who swear allegiance is just that – a story.
Perverse it is that we assign our uniquely human characteristics and qualities to the phantom our minds need to believe in. Arrogant it is that we assume we were created “in his image” – the creator of the universe, of countless galaxies, and distances and situations and phenomena that will never be understood by our feeble, needy minds – looks like us. We believe “god” resembles us, and that it cares for us. Chuckle. What an arrogant lot we are.
I sat, a few years ago, at the coast, watching waves roll in. I do my best thinking there. I sat, and sat, and watched, observing the ocean, and the birds, and “life ” as it played out, as it has since. . . forever, and I found myself watching a world that is functioning according to plan. Whose plan is way beyond my simple mind to grasp, but my mind gave me this answer: Whoever, whatever is responsible for All That Is really couldn’t give too much of a rats butt what does or doesn’t happen to me, or you, or anyone, because, well – isn’t it obvious?
Religion tells us we have an ally in a high place, that it will care for us and love us, yet here you, and I, sit suffering. Yet we’ll swear “god” is there, listening, helping, waiting.
So what gives?
The story doesn’t match the reality, yet we’re sure deliverance is nigh, if only we can persevere. “God” will help us, it will deliver us, keep us safe. No, “it” wont, whether youre Christian, Presbyterian, or Muslim. “God” WILL watch as we suffer, and this will never change. It is “The Plan”, and in our condition of perpetual discontent, we create stories of a big, strong “god”, bearing a flaming sword, that will help us, yet. . . where’s the help?
We believe our own fairy tales just a bit too much. Hmmm.
There’s a “god.” There’s a reason All That Is is. Hell if I understand it, but this much I do understand – there is noone on our side. The world we live in is a violent place, and it is a beautiful place. It is a world of incredible light, and suffocating dark. It is a world of inviting love, and punishing hate. It is a world of balance, and for “god” to step in and fend off evil is wishful thinking. The plan that enabled the formation of All That Is demands suffering, and no fairy tale Wonder God will be stepping in any time soon to make any changes.
Well, at least you’re not Lazarus. He got raised from the dead after rotting in a crypt for days in an era that didn’t know anything about modern embalming practices. That must have seemed like a terrible curse.
Don’t want to judge you, your Christianity or Christians. But it is a miracle to me how you made it here.
Or at several online platforms. On early age you get someone in your age around you appointed. You shall learn to know when it is fine to go alone and when not. I rarely find any Christians on the Internet as much do not have to. I’d understand when someone like you is asking for assistance in terms of critic on the internet to turn it with a comment. But to Single head into the Web?
I’m sure they do. First one made me panicked and ate my Kebab Döner which fell out of my hands. Later on two chased me in the night, got to sniff at my feet running for real!
Later on I slept in a Punk’s Home where I cuddled even through the Trauma of Dogs I have with 4 Dogs at once. The house had 6.
In the End a friend who was sitting Dogs tried to convince me to be more trusting to Dogs. With success.
Isn’t that lovely? Now I only need to buy some goodies and foodies for them.
Have you all forgotten the story of job the devil swore he could make him turn away from god god made him go through starvation he lost his wife he became ill even but job never turned away from god and he was rewarded with better things i understand for you atheist out their you dont believe but trying to force your views on others and make them lose hope.which is what god is hes hope.thats just not right.
There is this Matthäus about to looking at women who are an tease for one. It’s a sin and the signature that a marriage shall be questioned and if so maybe ended. I don’t know why this is suitable to me here but we should look adrift of Verses and the Christianity and do something about this bullies online who discuss the the religion over the person’s need. We don’t need get into the argument of being Christian. There’s no god of causality in almost any religion. (Pokémon doesn’t count I guess…)
Are you saying that god thinks atheist are wicked?god loves all his children it is only men using god as an example to carry there own hate.im not picking on atheist but as a Christian i have to stand up for what i believe in just as atheist would stand up for there beliefs.
As a potential evil atheist, I must protest. I don’t really have any religious beliefs – more, ideas about what beliefs are. Emotions, thoughts, feelings, math, the whole lot of inner life is a weird, isolated little hurricane inside everybody. That wind doesn’t whisper, and there is no still small voice echoing off the walls. Just the echo of each person’s own thoughts.
How is it possible that an entire society… becomes this generated actual piece of **** killer and harasser. If someone can defile in the supernatural way, can’t they as well protect? As you may then understand and perhaps well, that it or the cause was due to a majority. An actual amok, and an actual malediction, from these omens, that for some reason found their way into life. I, myself can not understand this oblivious and real death happening on the victim. So, from this type of difference, of this occurring concept which is existing. Trying to, decipher this new plot.
From these individuals, to society, to civilization, but should to be, hierarchy. To find out that, humanity is a scale between, such and orderly.
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That’s a good question. There are no doubt better answers than this one but from what I see Christians, including me, don’t get any special break from suffering. I know there are teachers who say we will but that doesn’t square with what I see and really will not square with Bible teachings either. But we can still do something about our plights most of the time.
As to depression, which just aches, there are some things I have been taught to do to make it ease up. I saw your question a few minutes ago on your Bipolar Depression is killing me story you did on Jul 16. I will pull together that answer for you there tomorrow night. Depression sucks, it sure does. Bullying is no fun either.
Having spent too many decades pursuing, questioning and cursing a “god” I believed was on my side, I’m resigned to this conclusion – The story of a loving, caring deity who is available to those who swear allegiance is just that – a story.
Perverse it is that we assign our uniquely human characteristics and qualities to the phantom our minds need to believe in. Arrogant it is that we assume we were created “in his image” – the creator of the universe, of countless galaxies, and distances and situations and phenomena that will never be understood by our feeble, needy minds – looks like us. We believe “god” resembles us, and that it cares for us. Chuckle. What an arrogant lot we are.
I sat, a few years ago, at the coast, watching waves roll in. I do my best thinking there. I sat, and sat, and watched, observing the ocean, and the birds, and “life ” as it played out, as it has since. . . forever, and I found myself watching a world that is functioning according to plan. Whose plan is way beyond my simple mind to grasp, but my mind gave me this answer: Whoever, whatever is responsible for All That Is really couldn’t give too much of a rats butt what does or doesn’t happen to me, or you, or anyone, because, well – isn’t it obvious?
Religion tells us we have an ally in a high place, that it will care for us and love us, yet here you, and I, sit suffering. Yet we’ll swear “god” is there, listening, helping, waiting.
So what gives?
The story doesn’t match the reality, yet we’re sure deliverance is nigh, if only we can persevere. “God” will help us, it will deliver us, keep us safe. No, “it” wont, whether youre Christian, Presbyterian, or Muslim. “God” WILL watch as we suffer, and this will never change. It is “The Plan”, and in our condition of perpetual discontent, we create stories of a big, strong “god”, bearing a flaming sword, that will help us, yet. . . where’s the help?
We believe our own fairy tales just a bit too much. Hmmm.
There’s a “god.” There’s a reason All That Is is. Hell if I understand it, but this much I do understand – there is noone on our side. The world we live in is a violent place, and it is a beautiful place. It is a world of incredible light, and suffocating dark. It is a world of inviting love, and punishing hate. It is a world of balance, and for “god” to step in and fend off evil is wishful thinking. The plan that enabled the formation of All That Is demands suffering, and no fairy tale Wonder God will be stepping in any time soon to make any changes.
Well, at least you’re not Lazarus. He got raised from the dead after rotting in a crypt for days in an era that didn’t know anything about modern embalming practices. That must have seemed like a terrible curse.
Because there is no god. The complete lack of evidence backs this up.
This makes much more sense than a “loving god” who is just fine with needless suffering.
I am going to build a reservoir and dedicate it to The Almighty.
I’ll call it “God Dam.”
Don’t want to judge you, your Christianity or Christians. But it is a miracle to me how you made it here.
Or at several online platforms. On early age you get someone in your age around you appointed. You shall learn to know when it is fine to go alone and when not. I rarely find any Christians on the Internet as much do not have to. I’d understand when someone like you is asking for assistance in terms of critic on the internet to turn it with a comment. But to Single head into the Web?
Dog loves you. I love lamp.
I’m sure they do. First one made me panicked and ate my Kebab Döner which fell out of my hands. Later on two chased me in the night, got to sniff at my feet running for real!
Later on I slept in a Punk’s Home where I cuddled even through the Trauma of Dogs I have with 4 Dogs at once. The house had 6.
In the End a friend who was sitting Dogs tried to convince me to be more trusting to Dogs. With success.
Isn’t that lovely? Now I only need to buy some goodies and foodies for them.
Have you all forgotten the story of job the devil swore he could make him turn away from god god made him go through starvation he lost his wife he became ill even but job never turned away from god and he was rewarded with better things i understand for you atheist out their you dont believe but trying to force your views on others and make them lose hope.which is what god is hes hope.thats just not right.
“Does it please you [God] to oppress me,
to spurn the work of your hands,
while you smile on the schemes of the wicked?” Job 10:3
According to Job, God smiles on the schemes of atheists. Leave them alone, for heaven’s sake!
There is this Matthäus about to looking at women who are an tease for one. It’s a sin and the signature that a marriage shall be questioned and if so maybe ended. I don’t know why this is suitable to me here but we should look adrift of Verses and the Christianity and do something about this bullies online who discuss the the religion over the person’s need. We don’t need get into the argument of being Christian. There’s no god of causality in almost any religion. (Pokémon doesn’t count I guess…)
Are you saying that god thinks atheist are wicked?god loves all his children it is only men using god as an example to carry there own hate.im not picking on atheist but as a Christian i have to stand up for what i believe in just as atheist would stand up for there beliefs.
As a potential evil atheist, I must protest. I don’t really have any religious beliefs – more, ideas about what beliefs are. Emotions, thoughts, feelings, math, the whole lot of inner life is a weird, isolated little hurricane inside everybody. That wind doesn’t whisper, and there is no still small voice echoing off the walls. Just the echo of each person’s own thoughts.
How is it possible that an entire society… becomes this generated actual piece of **** killer and harasser. If someone can defile in the supernatural way, can’t they as well protect? As you may then understand and perhaps well, that it or the cause was due to a majority. An actual amok, and an actual malediction, from these omens, that for some reason found their way into life. I, myself can not understand this oblivious and real death happening on the victim. So, from this type of difference, of this occurring concept which is existing. Trying to, decipher this new plot.
From these individuals, to society, to civilization, but should to be, hierarchy. To find out that, humanity is a scale between, such and orderly.
Yet, as being the one explaining to it.
The title of this post is like asking “Hey Santa. Why didn’t I get what I wanted for Christmas”?
(Perhaps he was too busy being imaginary to comply with your wishes).
So many atheist on this post giving no good advice makes me sick
For it has been granted to you that for for the sake of Christ you should not only belivith in Him but also suffer for his sake;
Somewhere in Philippians, I do not remember where
I know it’s hard. That’s why I’m here. But sometimes there can be comfort in that it works into His plan, somehow…