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Is there any counter argument?

by Broken Ninja

Hi.  I’m not sure if I want to live right now.  I’ve been rereading a suicide note that I wrote a while back, trying to change its meaning into something less bleak.  The problem is, I’m a fairly good writer, (even though it hurts to do so).  I’m scared to die, but I can’t stand this.  Would anyone be willing to lend a counter-argument to it?  I know it’s not much, but I can send you a few dollars over PayPal as a thank you if you want.



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Hope Dream Love 7/20/2019 - 6:35 pm

Wanna talk for a minute about it? Why do you want to?

Broken Ninja 7/20/2019 - 6:37 pm

You clearly didn’t read it.

Hope Dream Love 7/20/2019 - 6:39 pm

I did but I know I wasn’t completely understanding that’s why I asked if you wanted to talk so you can explain it better to me.

Cause of Death: Suicide 7/21/2019 - 2:03 am

I’d have no one to write to if I did want to write a suicide note. All my friends are already dead.

Yoges 7/21/2019 - 4:35 am

Ok Ninja, here goes: https://www.globaltruthproject.com/home/author/Michael-Smith
Not my own counter-argument but so what! From your writing it seems you put much stock in ideas of heaven and hell so might as well give this idea a read.
Its free ebook so no need of paypal and stuff :/

Eddie 7/21/2019 - 11:13 am

Weellll… it starts off well… then it becomes a little verbose… and you ask 53 questions!

53 questions!?

Eddie 7/21/2019 - 11:16 am

Actually, 54 questions if you include this one: “Is there any counter argument?”

rocketman 7/21/2019 - 11:36 am

Those are really thoughts, counter argument is can you make the right decisions and choices based on what you know that is best for you and other’s around you.

Eddie 7/21/2019 - 11:52 am


Eddie 7/21/2019 - 12:00 pm

I mean that I don’t believe that we have ‘free will’.

thehusk 7/21/2019 - 12:41 pm

I read the note. You’re clearly in a lot of pain. I’m not really going to argue against it, just raise a few points to consider.
The first being; are you confident you’ve explored any potential help that might be open to you? For some depression does just lift on it’s own in time, but I think for those with more complex issues relief only comes when they do something different. For that it’s helpful to understand the source of your pain. Have you tried talking it through with an empathetic professional? Have you tried medication (or perspective altering non-prescription drugs)? Are there significant things about your living situation that could be improved? What seems meaningful to you (if anything), and is anything standing in the way of that?
Only you can judge the extent of your pain, and how it might weigh against the pain of those you leave behind. But to do so I think you first need to have a good understanding of yourself and the cause of your suffering, as well as any alternative options.
One more question; you seem to believe that death will ‘set you free’. Supposing conscious experience did continue, what makes you think it would be any different – that your psychological pain wouldn’t simply follow you beyond? Surely that would be losing your wager, rather than oblivion – to be trapped with your pain, but no longer capable of change. That’s what I’d be afraid of.

Eddie 7/21/2019 - 2:05 pm

Only 6 questions. Nice.

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