i spent a few hours on this site looking at posts as much as 10 years old. if someone posted something optimistic, especially if they said they found help and things were looking good, then i would look at their follow up posts. in every case, they come back sometimes years later saying they’re back at rock bottom. this site is an interesting time machine and bullshit detector. im sure they meant it at the time but IN EVERY CASE they always come back saying life gets worse. the only sucess stories seem to be the ones who say theyre gonna kill themselves and then they never post again. success in terms of getting what they want. rip lucky bastards
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Huh… Interesting. Indeed a time machine. Yeah, this is the place, where the only wishes that get granted, are the ones where you die. Lovely.
you might be interested in this
https: //sanctionedsuicide. com/threads/2-years-ago-i-was-10-minutes-away-from-death-now-im-the-happiest-ive-ever-been.59386/#post-1099439
I have good days, which is more than I hear from most people struggling with suicidal ideation. I’ll go further; the majority of the last three years have been good days; roughly 90%. One thing that changed it for me was when I started to think quantitatively and less qualitatively.
I’m at the midpoint right now. Not feeling great, but not wanting to end it. Four days ago I was in one of the worst pits I’ve been in feeling wise. Existentially; I have a job, a wife, a car, a house, and we’re going to start to try and have kids. I was kicked out at one point a few years ago; “You’ve got it great, no reason to complain.” The thing about chronic pain is that it doesn’t represent well in objective terms.
You can live. Cured is a pipe dream for most of us. I’m a social scientist, and I’ve heard about so called “cures”, and given the state of insurance if any of them were proven I’d know. There’s eye movement reprogramming, which some people claim works but the evidence is spotty. There’s electric wave therapy (often misrepresented as electroshock), and there’s magnetic field therapy (in very early days.) Not even getting into the BS people start up with meditation, mindfulness, and hallucinogenic drugs. The evidence is nil for those actually being effective.
SSRIs work, but not for everyone and you have to take them for the rest of your life, or at least as long as you want to function.
Same goes for most maintenance meds; they kinda work, for some people, and you have to keep taking them.
11 years of depression and anxiety, an anniversary I never wanted to celebrate. Yet, survival is the best I can do. Thriving by some definitions given my relative economic well being. I take every functional day as a gift, given that I never know when I will start falling apart again. Maybe it will never happen again; I kept a job through this last one, that never happened before. I was able to halt momentum and wait out the episode. Pretty good.
thats one way to look at it. Congratulations on finding some kind of stability which is more than I can say for myself. But what if surviving isn’t enough? I don’t think it’s too crazy to ask for an actual cure… we have cures for almost every other ailment. Imagine if there was no cure for a broken leg, and the doctors just tell you it’s gonna stay broken for the rest of your life but you can learn to cope.
youre right that we can achieve a sense of relative well-being and that’s probably how most of us will end this game. But it still sucks. One way or another, cure or suicide, I just want to be done with this. I saw a post from years ago, someone who had been in and out of recovery, she summed up the whole thing. she said the problem isn’t “getting better”. the problem is “staying better”. I’m pretty sure that was her suicide note, she never posted again
People tend to zero in on the bad things in life because they want to be or think they are perfect. Its when we are denied the “win” or told we are shit that makes our ego realize that we aren’t all we are cracked up to be and that sticks with even the most happy go lucky or cocky person out there.
Thats just who we are, we don’t really remember praise because of well various reasons. Some people its a mental thing, others there is a chemical thing, for others they just are more impacted by the realization that they don’t meet the goal.
There is no cure persay because there isn’t a wand, pill, or group of words that will take this away forever. Its up to us to find the reason to or not to end it all. I know of a few people that were in a situation I am in now and their family, their kids, or just a pet once stopped them from going through with it.
I wish there was a cure. I have moments maybe even months of it now being so bad. But it always comes back. There are times where i just curl up and say to myself this will get better just hang on….. And it does, but not forever.