Where there are healthier outlets than anonymous/online suicide sites, why do you enable risk by not using preventative measures? You only intervene by covering up/deleting traces of bullying, partnering, and posts about wanting advice on suicide methods. – Should something happen to a younger person, where’s the explanation for the family?
Younger people are also very impressionable. This site frequently mentions suicide as a right- and the helping world/ a bad place. Why aren’t you using preventative measures like providing an age limit? It’s a serious issue that remains neglected.
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This is why I stopped posting and commenting even though I have a lot to say (pro-suicide). A few years ago on a despicable suicide forum a bunch of misogynistic “incels” encourages and advised a 13 year old girl on how to kill herself. All within the rules. Free speech. Suicide awareness and all that horse sh*. She did it, and her parents were heartbroken because they had finally found the right therapists and she was making a slow turnaround. In a heartbeat, a careless word from an anonymous stranger on a website can mean life or death to a child. No matter how “safe” you think your words are.
Should suicide forums be shut down? Before I heard that story I would have ferociously said No. Free speech, suicide awareness and all that horsesh*. But now, let’s just say I don’t open my big fat mouth anymore.
i don’t understand at all how people can be pro suicide. but anti suicide is usually super annoying. and i just can’t really talk on these sites because of the things you described. when i enter them, i just see people that need to be saved, finding anyone talking about things that i care about is impossible.
and there are lots of people there. LOTS. it’s just so many people it’s horrifying.
Same.
wow arent you one to talk about bullying and minors
i will first bring this up
https://suicideproject.org/2021/03/the-fact-that-i-have-to-even-make-this-post-is-ridiculous/?fbclid=IwAR35MXatxttZTCbWE6hhJDbpdEVTtYflYVm_LLwfWBZzYwldDR_MIFs0tnc#comment-662796
followed by you being exposed because thank god im not the only one that sees it anymore.
https://suicideproject.org/2021/03/537591/?fbclid=IwAR1mfjhdFymzkGIN7UMpitGfS8hsCRV0FCGBpz3tyKihZ47iRYHQYfyR2jg#comments
oh and also a little reminder that abandon still hasnt been back since you harassed them. still proud of yourself for that one? because im quite concerned this innocent person is dead because of what you did.
she has bpd, it’s supposedly a condition that involves problems with memory, ability to focus and to maintain human connections and control emotions. and it involves lack of identity and the people who have it are super impulsive. and this impulsivity can lead to suicide even despite there being no coherent suicidal ideation.
that’s how i understand this, but she deletes the posts so fast that i’m not even sure if i this is right at all, maybe i read it wrong.
the point is, she is looking for some connection, or, i don’t know, she just comes to this site looking for something, but can’t really use the site, the way her mind works just doesn’t allow her to participate in a site like this.
BPD doesn’t have a lot to do with memory. If she has BPD, she should be in Dialectic Behavioral Therapy to help control impulse and work with her emotions. I’m a psychology buff (grew up with a mother who is a psychologist as well), and BPD doesn’t excuse this kind of behavior, particularly when a negative reaction has already been received and the behavior continues shortly after.
i have bpd and i dont do this
i saw that she would write a post that wasn’t, like trying to get to the point, it was just a bunch of thoughts stuck together. i haven’t seen a post in which she would appear depressed, those posts looked more excited than anything else.
and she operated the site in this very rapid way, where she would keep saving the post after writing each paragraph, and when she wrote comments, she wouldn’t even read the post till the end, she just answered after reading a single sentence.
at first, when this stuff was happening under systems posts, i just couldn’t understand how could someone be so incapable of reading the air. i just simply don’t think that this person can work with a site like this. i wasn’t trying to make excuses. from one of her posts it seemed like she had some connections to the bdsm scene, and this whole combination in context of systems posts is totally messed up.
I just can’t sympathize with it. Which is really rare for me. I have some pretty severe mental illnesses myself, but I don’t use them to excuse foul behavior. ie; I have OSDD (similar to DID, read up on it if you need explanation) and I don’t use it to excuse my alters’ behavior in the event that they do something shitty. I have yet to meet someone with BPD who behaves like this 100% as a result of their illness.
my mother was abused in several ways by my father, both of our parents neglected us. now, after a divorce that lasted a decade, my mother is a maniacal jerk with an idgaf attitude, and my father is still a manipulative aimless alcoholic. i don’t sympathize with any of it. i don’t stay in touch with them. to me, mental disorders are something that helps understand peoples behavior. understanding the world helps people navigate it. sympathizing with people – not always.
i do understand the severity of your situation. i read your posts. and i do recognize that you mean well and try to be a good person. but you keep blaming yourself too much. so this isn’t completely a virtue, something to be proud of
wow arent you one to talk about bullying and minors
i will first bring this up
https:// suicideproject .org/2021/03/the-fact-that-i-have-to-even-make-this-post-is-ridiculous/?fbclid=IwAR35MXatxttZTCbWE6hhJDbpdEVTtYflYVm_LLwfWBZzYwldDR_MIFs0tnc#comment-662796
followed by you being exposed because thank god im not the only one that sees it anymore.
https:// suicideproject. org/2021/03/537591/?fbclid=IwAR1mfjhdFymzkGIN7UMpitGfS8hsCRV0FCGBpz3tyKihZ47iRYHQYfyR2jg#comments
oh and also a little reminder that abandon still hasnt been back since you harassed them. still proud of yourself for that one? because im quite concerned this innocent person is dead because of what you did.
youre right. i wish admin would do something about the bullshit here instead of just covering it up
An age limit would just alienate kids that feel this way
There are healthier places than this. That’s a bit dramatic.
No, open road is right, it alienates them and forces them to lie, which they will.
Plus they’d go right ahead and lie abt their age when making their accounts
The admins delete traces of violence. “The rules” That’s part of why it’s dangerous- an age limit will at least create an expectation. Read the first comment. Think about that. This place deletes what looks bad. They don’t step in. Not* meant for kids.
aren’t you the same person who was being continuously insensitive and left sexual comments on one of my posts?
Abandoned? Oh. Lol, Yessss I remember. I miss seeing them around. I was rude/ but she’s an adult / I’m sure she isn’t sitting in the dark obsessing with dilated eyes over “ungrateful bastard” ruining her life like you implied.
I’ve seen them comment since then. Plus, if you cared, why didn’t you check on them. You picking a fight for fun? What is this? Haha 🙂
We fought, but get real.
Everyone moved on, life keeps going. This is a website, not a planet.
You throw the word “borderline” around as a degrading label. A bad description for someone.
Pa- you’re just an armchair psych because I’m not diagnosed with a personality disorder. On a scale of personality, I have avoidant tendencies – but nothing that says i have one. and I paid to be evaluated one time. I ruminate about things that bother me, but it’s normal. You sound spiteful when you say, “borderline,” and incorrect about what that means….sort of insensitive to others on here- don’t you think? It’s derogatory to use it that way. Why do that here?
Seems like you need to accept the past and let it go. You constantly bring this up – good for you – but life passes people by when they do that – so good luck with that toxicity.
People err, get over it.
Karen all you want. Nobody cares.
Journaling is fun. I don’t have to be suicidal to be here. I can be depressed – besides – what do you know about my real life – I feel like I can’t be too personal on here because this stuff gets used against me in my real life. I have to be mindful instead of honest.
Journalling is really helpful. And no, you’re right, you don’t have to be suicidal to be here. But none of that warrants you multi-accounting, being maliciously insensitive, and harassing people in what is supposed to be a safe space for people to vent.
I also agree that armchair psychology/throwing diagnoses around like adjectives is harmful.
I apologize for being aggressive with you, but I don’t think my reaction was unwarranted/surprising.
i constantly bring it up because you dont seem to care that you killed someone and because admin is letting you stay here which could lead to someone elses death.
whats wrong dont want to admit the truth? that you killed them? that got deleted awfully quick