I checked into the hospital yesterday for a lung bronchoscopy and biopsy surgery in the early am thinking to myself how nice it may be that today my wish is secured. As I lay getting prepped with iv’s and so on, I wish in my mind to never wake up from this. As the anesthesiologist got me ready and said when you feel the cold you’ll go fast. As I felt the cold I begged to not wake up. Dammit. This explicative crap continues. The horror The Horror.
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I was like that when I had my endoscopy. I felt the cold and went out like a light. To then being able to wake up :/
lol endoscopy is a relatively “safe” procedure. Very unlikely to die from it. Unless you really got a dumb ass dr who ruptures your intestines. I won’t do an endo again tho. I was awake for mine. The prep was worse than the endo itself -_-
That’s weird because it’s a procedure they have to put you to sleep. Like there’s no way they can do it awake. I’m actually surprised they did it with you awake. Maybe you’re somewhere they do things differently. I know from where I’m from, it’s an absolute must to be put asleep for it to prevent choking, breathing issues, and ect.
Endoscopy is something that can 100% be done while the patient is awake. It’s just that in the US, the hospitals/drs can make a killing putting ppl to sleep so that’s why it’s done and why that’s “standard” practice here. You can ask to be awake. It’s a very easy simple procedure. Tho it’s not very pleasant to have it down your throat. But I did it and I watched the whole thing on screen during mine. Had my colonoscopy done right after too, also awake for that. The colonoscopy is the one where the prep (at home, the 1-2 days before) was horrible, worse than the colonoscopy itself.
And in parts of Europe, being awake for an endo/colo is much more common. US = Medical Industrial Complex = $$$$ so it’s whatever is most profitable which is putting us to sleep. Just bc something is commonly done here doesn’t mean it’s common or standard elsewhere, or what is best for the patient (it often isn’t).
What anesthetic was used, and can you describe that feeling of “cold”? Was it unpleasant, even for a split second?
When he pushed the chmicals into the iv line I felt the cold enter the vein. Out in 2 seconds, but dammit still alive. I just want to go, as in dead, gone, over with. Apocalypse Now. Someone please kill me.
Ah I get it, cold in the IV, not cold like your whole body. In any case it sounds like it was quick and you didn’t have any panic. The reason I asked is I wonder about an assisted suicide situation, or any death by sedative overdose. I wonder if there is any last minute pain or panic. I know of 1 instance where there was, and that weighs heavily on my mind.
it depends on the drugs you’re given. when i had my surgery, i was out in literally 2s. the anaesteologist said to count backwards from 3, and i was out before 1 or 0.
if you a reputable assisted suicide takes on your case and helps you (very rare given the # of requests and actual requests they take), they will have the appropriate drugs to knock you out quick. you’d have to contact those organizations (a few countries allow this, not many to choose from, and likelihood of getting picked if you’re not terminal is close to nil. and even if terminal, still hard to get picked since there’s so much demand and so few places that do it).
you’d have to contact those organizations and ask which drugs they will give you and the details of how those drugs work. i looked into it once but can’t remember the actual drugs they give up, plus who knows if they’ve changed the cocktail.
now the problem with sedative overdose is that we generally can’t get our hands on the right ones that are effective, and usually pills don’t work too well. liquids work better than pills, and injectables work the best. anything ingested has a high likelihood of it all being thrown up, hence 97% of all suicides via oral ingestion results in failure. not good stats. especially if you don’t want to wake up with a fucked up liver/kidneys/damaged organs, etc.
Also- in your particular case, i would bet your body has built up quite a tolerance to drugs in general so it would be even more difficult for it to succeed on you.
Good points. As always, it’s hard to get our hands on anything that works. And I doubt they’ll ever approve doctor assisted suicide for mental health reasons. So if I decide to go in this direction (rather than violent means) I’ll have to wing it with whatever I can get.
The way prisoner executions are handled, they administer a sedative and only after that takes effect do they proceed with the active ingredient. I never understood that. Why the need for 2, if both are fatal in the proper dose? Unless they somehow determined that the fatal one “N” by itself is painful or inhumane?
idek what I’m saying but for some reason I’m really concerned about those few seconds between consciousness and death. If there’s any pain or panic, that sours me to the idea. Call me crazy as I don’t even believe in an afterlife but I think the way we feel at the moment of death is significant to whatever might come after.
the thing that gets me is that most people that want to go by sedative really want the version where their nervous system collapses, as in you relax so completely you can’t fill your lungs. That’s a hard mark to hit though, even if you use the same dose as someone else. How you metabolize the drug might be different
there’s also the danger of it half working. You see quite a lot of OD deaths are due to choking on your own vomit… something I’m sure most people would rather avoid.
but most of all what scares me is unintended effects. Sometimes it can make someone more anxious, more frightened before they go. That’s what haunts my nightmares, my last moments being ones of fear.
Ah, I think you pinpointed why executions are done the way they are. The sedative renders the prisoner insensible in the event that the fatal ingredient gets botched.
I didn’t think about that but you’re absolutely right… even if the drug is ushering you off to peaceful slumbers, if your lungs collapse before you’re totally out, it’ll be as if you’re falling asleep and someone smothers you with a pillow.
And I absolutely agree that different people have very different reactions to certain drugs, and doses are critical. Even with something as harmless as benadryl, if I take just 1 pill too many it can lead to a psychotic panic. I’ve figured out what works for me only through a lot of trial and error, but no doctor would ever know this. I imagine with some new drug which my body doesn’t recognize would be even more unpredictable or disastrous.
All the discussion is cool, but the fact remains…I’m still here feeling stuck in this expletive. My wish didn’t happen. But if it is and can be just like that…then let’s just go all the way…please. I truly wish I had that drug in a quantity. There’d be no waiting. Just nothing. ……take me out of this.