I feel like I’m being tested. A situation that anyone else would feel as normal. That in any other case in my life would be normal now feels like its a test from God. I don’t know if I even believe in God. I don’t know if Karma or any of that exist yet im so lost in with everything right now that I cant get the thought out of my head. I have a road in front of me that if it is a test, I will fail and lose any and all hope of reconciliation, yet I don’t even know if that reconciliation is a possibility. If its not a test, it would mean nothing and would be no big deal. Its nothing immoral or bad by any standard. Its just in the position I am in, it feels like it could be a test that has a major outcome on my situation. I hate all of this so bad. Why cant shit just be normal and easy for once in my life.
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i believe and if you fail your test then you could always just ask for forgiveness. besides he already knows what you’re like so he knows all about you…ahhh its weird to explain. but he always forgives
Nothing worth doing is easy. If life were easy, we’d all be complacent and never accomplish anything – nothing would be important, meaningful, or interesting. I somehow doubt that even if God exists, he has a whole lot to do with how things are, though. What does god have to do with the people around you and the choices they make? What does god have to do with the choices you have to make? If he is up there, he’s just watching from the stage, either bemused, happy, sad, crying or cheering. I hope he’s enjoying the show.
thas what i think. i cant imagine him directly taking part in 7 billion lives just because he can. :/ i think after billions of years of watching the same show he’s probably bored…wonder if there are other channels (as in other life forms he created…)
Maybe he is active in everybody’s life in equal measure, and we are him – as a whole, he must be very sad and lonely. Either that, or very easily distracted.
huh yeah id think sad and lonely. i mean he’s got heaven with all the humans but well if he’s not like humans than how could he enjoy himself with humans? 🙁
Humans have not be around billions of years :/
nah i meant like earth. he made it billions of years ago so he’s been watching since then
Yeah true must be bored just watching big blue planet spinning non stop haha but it’s horrible saying cause we have all lost love ones and stuff, but there’s no god or devil there’s just nothing waiting what is fine by me a can’t be arsed with being depressed for infinity
Yeah true must be bored just watching big blue planet spinning non stop haha but it’s horrible saying cause we have all lost love ones and stuff, but there’s no god or devil there’s just nothing waiting what is fine by me a can’t be arsed with being depressed for infinity
Trying to understand God is pretty much always futile. Could be something of what lorax said, could be something else. We know some things about God, for example that he sometimes tests us. But his motivation and intentions are hard if not impossible to grasp.
true he is just unimaginable. we know like .1% about God
I definitely don’t believe in religion, or the God of religions. I am not a believer in general either, but at the end of the day… who knows the truth? Religion is just manipulation for me though.
i guess i agree with manipulation bc some people like to twist things around with religion to make you do stuff. not cool :/ but you’re right, who knows? i believe bc of a couple of things and of them being it just makes things easier to understand . the unknown scares me
God isnt real. Karma isnt real. Why are so many suffering then? Karma… well many are treated a certain way, good or bad. And in return the giver of those actions wont always receive back how they treated someone (e.g treat someone badly and they keep doing it forever, and the person who treated them badly gets away with it, still free to live a ‘great’ life)
If you treat someone well and in return they treat you badly, that’s how they chose to treat you. It isn’t fair, it isn’t unfair; it is what it is. If god does exist, was it him who treated you badly, or that person you treated well?
yeah i mean its humans that cause all our problems. maybe god helps in little ways idk but how could he fix the whole world and make it so amazing when we constantly defy and do wrong? idk but after reading the bible all i can say is humans screw up soooooo many times
Yeah, like back when lots of people listened to Britney Spears’ music. Gah. Human depravity at its worst.
lol and bieber 🙁 just nooo
I don’t believe in God, nor religion for that matter. “Believe in our god, or spend eternity in a fiery pit of damnation”. Yeah, ok.
idk my belief of god strays from that logic. i think that if he sees you are good in heart then he forgives you. the bible is only a tiny bit of god so to base everything on its exact words wouldn’t be wise. idk the thing is you don’t really know. it goes for believers to. we just choose to
No one can know, as an absolute fact, whether any gods, deities, demons etc. exist. There is simply no evidence – real, concrete, testable, repeatable, observable, physical evidence to support the existence of these supernatural beings. There are books/scriptures/holy writs etc that make the assertion for these beings … but the books(s) say you must have “faith” and “believe” without evidence – trust the book/scriptures or trust the evidence … everyone is free to choose.
Although I “believed” as I was raised to believe and have faith – I came to trust and respect the evidence … the evidence shows nothing of these beings/gods so I reject them and the decades of belief/faith i once had. But that is my decision and conclusion after reviewing the facts and evidence available to my satisfaction.
Is there a God? I am confident, there is not – nor a Satan, nor heaven, hell, unicorns, Santa Claus, elves, faeries, gnomes and so on … is there evidence. proof that these things do not exist? No – But the lack of any clue to their existence speaks volumes. Again, you may interpret the evidence differently and come to a different conclusion – nothing wrong with that.
Occam’s Razor (a logic principle or line of reasoning) states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove correct, but—in the absence of certainty—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.
That said, basing the whole universe (or even multiverse) on the assumption of the existence of a god … then assuming that this god created the universe, and our planet and all things on it including us; gets to to be like a snowballing of assumptions … and at the end we’re still left with the question – “Who created the creator?” – and all the assumptions that need be made to answer THAT question.
None the less – people still have faith … and that is fine, if it brings them peace and strength (and they don’t force it one everyone else).
All THAT said, treat your situation as normal – handle all aspects of it to the best of your knowledge and ability as your character dictates. Try to be as moral, correct, fair and honest as possible and work your way through it in such a way that you don’t have regrets for not trying, hurting others or compromising your principles and values. Simply – do your best – get it done and done apologize … and for pete’s sake … don’t look back – when it’s done, it’s done.
best wishes
pragmatic dawg
In the end, God’s just a convenient way to brush aside human responsibility for both bad and good things. It bugs me when people attribute human kindnesses to a divine being – it’s almost offensive. Like when people go out of their way, at a personal loss, to help victims of a natural disaster or something. Then the religious folks come along and say god helped those poor folks – that’s just insulting if you ask me.
But that aside, totally agree – as usual, dawg’s on the money. 😀
@xanadu – couldn’t agree more … doctors and nurses bust ass to learn what they know and then spend 12 hours replacing your heart … but “thank god” you’re alive … not the doctors and nurses who’ve dedicated their lives to being able to do so … nope, not them – it was gawd manipulating them like marionettes … yech!
equal opportunity offensive dawg
Are you saying Christians aren’t grateful enough towards doctors and nurses? Because that’s clearly what you are saying.
no claire he’s just saying how when people always give credit towards god it feels discrediting towards the doctors. it just seems wrong. but i don’t think he means to say that
plus its kinda true we dont know for certain which things god takes parts in or not so we can overall be happy and thankful but give credit to what we do know. he wasnt trying to insult just show how wrong it is to do that.
@Clair … after careful review of my submissions here … I do not see where I’ve used the word “christian” or even alluded to them or any other religion, denomination, sect or cult etc.
My last statements are merely an echo and addendum to the sentiments of xanadu who CLEARLY states:
“It bugs me when people attribute … ”
” Like when people go out of their way …”
Again – no mention of any one or group specifically … if you, for some unknown reason believe these statements apply to you then … as the geezers used to say:
“If the shoe fits …”
But clearly you imply that you DO appreciate the humans that do these things … so I’m somewhat perplexed as to why you’d even suggest that you are the object of my/our concerns on this subject.
SO – to directly address your question and statement> NO – that is NOT what I am saying … and CLEARLY it is not “clearly” what I am saying. 😉
clearly clarified dawg
“but “thank god” you’re alive … not the doctors and nurses who’ve dedicated their lives to being able to do so”
You say it is wrong for ALL religious people to thank God and not the doctor’s and nurses for their work. Christians ? all religious people, so you’re obviously talking about them as well.
I wasn’t implying you were talking about me personally, but the generalizations and wrong assumptions about Christians (I can’t talk about other religions) not only in this particular post drive me crazy.
I don’t tell doctors they only did good work because God wanted them to do so. I don’t even talk to them about God at all (if they aren’t religious as well), and when I thank God for my well-being I do so in private when I pray, and afaik my thoughts and prayers are none of anyone’s but God and my concern. That’s the case with most religious people I know.
Can’t even print the sign for subset.
Wow, quite the insight Dawg. Glad to see you back around these parts. I always found it ridiculous that if you dispute something in a couple thousand years old book your blasphemous but, if you those believe in things like bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster you’re ridiculous.
Thanks stabbymike … I miss interacting here but life isn’t always “convenient”.
FYI – I’m not saying it was aliens … but …
It was aliens 😉
annunaki dawg
I know what you mean. I’ve been on a lot lately, but their have been times where i’ve stayed away for months. And honestly, aliens is a whole lot easier to believe than an old dude in the sky manipulating us at every move.
God & Jesus never got married. Wanna be godlike? Don’t get married.
Jesus just wandered around and talked to people. He was an extroverted homeless guy. (Wouldn’t surprise me if he was a musician too). He was known to cavort with prostitutes and overturn tax collectors stands in synagogues. JC was ok. Plus, he fished, drank wine and wore sandals. I suspect he sported a beard as well. (Fucking hippy).
Lol
He was also homosexual, don’t forget that. (He turned down every woman who threw herself at him, but amassed a large number of adoring fanboys.)
@Pearsa; Whoa!! Hold on!
You sayin’ God’s a fag!?!?
(You heard it here first, folks).
You’ve said it before too, man. No use denying the facts. JHC liked boys, not chicks.
Hey now, I turn down every woman who throws herself at me (hypothetically speaking) but I’m not gay. I think Jesus was either asexual, or some kind of garden plant. Like a turnip or something. But only a handful of references in the ol’ book might hint at the fact that he experimented a little behind the scenes. Even turnips need to figure out who they are from time to time.
there is that rumor about jesus and mary magdalene and their child. who knows?
Wow. Imagine if after we all die, we meet God, and he’s the queerest fag you’ve ever met.
That would explain a lot. (No offense to the homos).
@Claire De Loon; No. Credit isn’t going where credit is due. Instead of thanking flesh & blood humans with training, the God people are crediting a concept/imaginary ideal instead.
I am not religious either. I dont know what to believe anymore. I do pray most nights but Im not sure if I believe it makes any difference or if anyone is out there listening. I doubt it but I figure why not. If maybe it will bring my girls back into my life at some point, it cant hurt. Let me try to put an example out. This isnt exactly what happened but it should clarify my question/statement. You are dating someone. They find out you are smoking weed and because of that, you end up pushing them away. Before they leave you, you give it all up and change because they are more important than the weed but, by that point, the damage is done and it may be too late. They tell you that they dont want to be with you, that they do love and care about you but they dont think this is what they want anymore however, they have a history of saying this and they have always come back at some point and want to try again. This has happened a few times. Recently, they tell you that this isnt working for them yet again and they stop talking to you. Now, you are hanging with some friends and someone offers you a hit. You know that this is what initially started some problems with that person and ultimately had a huge effect on where things headed. Now, here you are again, faced with the choice of going back to something you enjoyed that never cause harm to anyone else (aside from your significant other) but your S/O isnt in the picture at this point. Is it a test? If you decide to smoke weed, is that going to cause them to never come back? If you dont smoke, would they come back anyway? I hope that makes it a little more understandable. Inside, you know theres not really anything wrong with it other than it hurt someone you love. You were willing to give it up because of them but if they have left you at this point, does it make a difference if you still take them into account?
208 is the area code for a significant portion of Idaho. Famous Potatoes.
I wonder if Jesus ever had a french fry. Hash browns? Think Jesus ever tried an Idaho potato?
What kind of deity would pass up hash browns?!? … Hash browns are divine 🙂 <3
breakfast dawg
I’ll betcha Jesus never went to the Waffle House.
I can’t believe in him.
I saw a trucker at the Waffle House who looked strikingly like Jesus – I mean, except that he was white and not Arab, and he was really vulgar. But he was eating a hashbrown. Who knows, maybe he was in disguise?
@Xanadu; I learn so much everytime I visit this site. Things I’ve learned today:
1) God is gay
2) God hates potatoes
3) God doesn’t have a CDL
Oh Xanadu, without this site I would be so lost.
Hey! You think there’s such a thing as ghost potatoes? Like maybe potatoes reincarnate and their souls become ghosts or some such nonsense? Irish/leprechaun/something? Can I reincarnate as broccoli?
Blah.
I’ve decided to stop making sense. Play it kewl, 227. 🙂
If a tree smokes pot in the forest…
first off bc you dont know if god helps or not than you have to work things out for yourself even if you pray. second this guy seems wrong. you gave up for him and he still left you. you should do what makes you happy and find someone who likes you for you and doesnt want to change you. i can’t fathom why it mattered so much to them. but i don’t think they are right for you if they didnt even take you back when you changed for them
There are so many variables here that it feels to me like the “pot smoking” is just an easy excuse for the one person to use to dissolve the relationship … or at least gain some distance. It could be the “friends” … it could be the circumstances …it could be a million things … but the simple “it’s the pot” seems like an easy boogeyman. Make your choices for what you do and who you see based on YOU … not at the behest of someone else’s directives. They either love you – flaws included, or they don’t. But none of this has anything to do with faith, god and the mysteries of the universe.
If the weed has something to do with why your girls are not in your life, then perhaps it’s time to take a long hard look at the “cost” to maintain this choice to partake in the devil’s lettuce. Honestly and objectively assess the choices you’ve made and adjust accordingly … no amount of prayer will make that happen – only honest self assessment and positive action on your part will do.
straight and narrow dawg
Stargazer
lol. I am the guy, and unlike God and jesus, im not gay. Again, thats not exactly what happened but, I think that by the time I had changed my ways, the damage was done hence the uncertainty of her wanting to risk taking me back. When someone does something up to the point of losing something more important to them and then at that point, they then change, trust and belief in it being a real change can be hard to allow and accept. I understand that on her side and I dont blame her at all for it. And yes, it did need to change on my part for the relationship to work. It wasnt something that could be accepted as being me for me.
oh sorry about assuming you were a girl :/ hmmm so if she has a history of coming back then maybe you should stay off weed for a while and ask her again? it may be hard but if you really like her then maybe you could wait and see. if she is prone to change her mind then its gonna be really hard to take a hit or not for the idea that she might take you back. you should tell her you will stop and ask her once and for all
id take dawg’s advice over mine tho
Here is the problem that we now get back into with the “once and for all” thing. I honestly think she has borderline personality disorder. She is the definition of the “I love you I love you, I hate you I hate you” When she wants me, she is 100% sure and is ready to marry me…… for a few days. Then she wants to be together but work on things……for a few days. Then she isnt sure and just wants some space….. again for a few days. Then its the opposite side. I dont want to be with you. Im 100% sure. Then its no talking for a week or two. Then its just wanted to say hi. Then can we talk, then the cycle starts all over. I know, I should tell her its all or nothing but I honestly would rather have her in my life part time than not at all. At least when she is in her upswing, I am happy, get to see my little girl and spend time with the woman I love. When she is in her down swing, I am absolutely crushed but survive on the hope of “next time”. Trust me, its a really shitty way to live but without my girls, I really dont have much else to live for, hence why I am here.
you know i have to agree if you left her then that would just cause both of you lots of pain. its probably the best arrangement possible. im sorry it causes you so much pain with all the ups and down tho
Sorry dawg, not ignoring you or your advice. You are correct, it is A LOT more complicated than what I could ever explain on a chat board. I am definitely taking your advice to heart though.
You’re not breaking my feelings 🙂 Use what’s useful discard what isn’t. Choice is yours and what you choose is your business, not mine.
For what it’s worth – weigh the pro’s and con’s of the relationship with this person … sometimes although it may hurt somewhat, maybe the best answer is to part as friends than to stay/be together and try and make oil and water mix.
That said – if I read correctly, this woman bore and has custody of your child? If you are going to choose to “make this work” and it’s really that important, then it may mean making sacrifices and compromises that you might not consider with someone else.
When kids are involved, whether you’re ready or not, it becomes time for you to step up and be an adult, a parent, a teacher, a protector. It’s no longer a game and it is a whole lot less about your wants and needs … unbeknownst to most people, children watch, learn and emulate everything they see and hear. To a child you ARE the ultimate superhero whether you feel like it or not.
Not knowing all the specifics and details and despite your GF’s flip/flop personality – I get the feeling she ultimately wants you to rise to the challenge and be more responsible and make sensible decisions.
Again – I’m doing a bit of speculating and reading between some lines – so take my words with a grain of salt – but don’t be dishonest with yourself to maintain a selfish perspective/way of life.
grandpa dawg
Yet another twist to the story I guess you could say. By any legal means, she is not my daughter but by everything else, she is. I came into their life when she was only 6 months old and have been there since. She is now 6. She knows me as her dad and as such, has even told her mom that she wanted to stay with me when they were moving out, that she can see I love mommy and that mommy should marry me so we can be a happy family, and many more things along that line. She is a VERY smart little girl and I know this causes her to hurt as well. I know that for the first few years we were together, I was not the best boyfriend or father figure. I relied on her for a lot, didnt work much and basically was still a boy stuck in a relationship that needed more from me. I realized that and worked hard to grow up as best and as fast as I could for them. I want and can and WILL be that figure in their life. The man she deserves as a husband, the father that my beautiful little girl needs. Someone to be there to support and guide and help in any way needed. To be their rock. I am willing to make any and all sacrifices I would need to for the rest of my life for the 2 of them. I no longer care about my selfish needs or wants. They are what is important to me. Their happiness is what matters most to me.
you are amazing 😀 i totally believe you can do it
Yeah, now the hard part is convincing her that it is true 100% and getting her to fall in love with me again. She does loves me. im sure of it. Shes just let the past mistakes ive made and the hurt that I have caused pull her away and I know she is scared and unsure if I could ever be that man that they needed for so long. I really wish she could see this. I have told her and shown her the best that I can when we are together but maybe, seeing how I feel and admitting myself to a bunch of strangers might make her see how real I am about it all. I have actually been writing a blog for the last few months. I mostly write in it when we arent together. It shows how I really feel about her. Its mostly posts written to her but there is some other stuff in it. If anyone has the time (there is alot) feel free to check it out. http://does-the-heart-lie.blogspot.com/
well because she has come back to you before plus how you truly care then im sure she will soon forgive you and come back.
Also, here is a song I wrote for her. Probably not most of your types of music but it means alot to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbNxkJ1a4HE
omigosh yes its not my type of music (i like country) but this is an amazing song.!!! omigosh you should serenade her!! the lyrics are beautiful. she is reaaaaaallly lucky to have such an amazing guy. she will realize this soon enough im sure
How bout a mix of rap and country. lol. this one isnt finished but its got a hard country feel to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vge21Rwz5y4&list=UUBFTTq7T5MC_I9a26ZH6RgQ
duuuuude i seriously just love your songs. i love the country background music but mostly i love your lyrics!!!!
Seconded. “Duet” is the joint, man. Tell her that again, doesn’t matter how, but do it.
GD, Infectious, all these feels… *sniffles*
thank you ninth. She means the world to me.
She has heard the song. She said she liked it and was always very supportive of my music but it almost seemed like by the time I had given it to her, she was afraid to show anyone because of everything else that happened. I had to push her to post it on her facebook even though after she did, everyone told her it was really sweet.
maybe the old chocolates and flowers with an apology note then? promise her you’ve changed. isk she may have been uncertain then but if you do a big apology then maybe she will forgive? she is obviously meditating on it herself. when she weighs the good and bads she will realize how the good outweighs
Well since you have listened to 2 of them, now you have my youtube page, you should check out “Let the children play”. Its about child abuse.
yup man im going to follow you too. you are amazing!
Well, ive kinda got something in the works. She LOVED the old skittles with lime rather than the green apple that is in them now. Back in 2013, they changed and you cant get lime skittles anymore. Well, for the past week, I have been searching and searching for some of them. I finally found 10 bags so I ordered them. When they get here, im going to take a card over that just says something like “You dont need to call or text me thank you and I dont expect you to. I just always loved your beautiful smile so hopefully these will make you smile and I can imagine it. Know that I love you and miss you with all my heart” and just leave them on her car or door step along with a new barbie for my little girl.
ermegerg my heart is like awwww overload. gosh!
@Infectious208 You got some good, no, great music and a great message. I see you’ve also worked with Jokerr, while I don’t care for him personally. How “out there” are you?
@stabbymike
Not hardly at all tbh. I have 2 songs on a local station that get played every year for their child abuse awareness week but other than being known a little locally from that, im not known by hardly anyone. the song with Jokerr was actually just a contest entry for a contest he was hosting so I havent actually worked with him.
Well, your music is phenomenal anyway. You’re very talented. I do a little promotion on the side if you’re interested. I could get your name out there.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I dont know if there is PM on here or anything but I would love to chat a little about it.
Do you have an email or twitter?
emailed you stabbymike
email, just didnt want to put it out on here. no twitter.
I’ll give you mine then. stabbymike@gmail.com
I love your music Infectious. You should be better known.