There is just simply no joy left in my life.
I’ve been in therapy a few times. And I eventually do see improvement, but it takes years of work; painful work. And it’s expensive, it sucks to throw a lot of time and effort and money into this just get up to a baseline where I can function.
I have cycled back to hopelessness, despair and a deep depression again. I think this is the worst yet. Added to my black mood are some financial hardships that are becoming overwhelming. We can’t register the cars, our health insurance has lapsed. My husbands’ income is commission only and it’s hard to budget and save and plan when you don’t know from one month to the next if you will even get paid. I am dead weight, haven’t held a steady job in years. I am literally worth more dead than alive.
Even if we did have some money to throw at my depression, I just don’t think I have it in me to fight anymore. Â I’m so tired, it is so much work. Â I did have some luck with anti-depressants, but they quit working eventually, and I had to start over and find another one, and tweak the dosage until I could function again. It’s all so subjective, and so time-consuming.
Cognitive Behavior Therapy is very effective, but it is constant work. Trying to retrain your brain to think differently with every situation. I have lots of anxiety issues, especially social anxiety. Parties are a nightmare for me. I feel like the dumbest person in the room, I can never think of anything interesting or witty to say, I find small talk incredibly boring and painful and don’t see the point. For as long as I remember, every major party I’ve ever been to has caused a panic attack. So, events like friends weddings…I usually end up leaving the reception hyperventilating, sweating, heart racing, and in a major panic. I hate it, I try to leave quietly, but it always turns into a major thing and I get dragged back by people who don’t understand and I sit there and cry due to humiliation and fear and just plain misery. CBT says to face your fears and to keep going to parties and focus on other things besides yourself and to tough it out as long as you can. Why do I have to work so hard at a freaking party? Everyone else is so relaxed and happy, and I am in hell. Â It’s easier to not go, to isolate myself, which of course is the absolute wrong thing to do. You are letting the anxiety win when you do this.
Things I used to enjoy now hold no interest. I force myself to do some of it, go through the motions, just to feel like I’m doing something. About the only thing left for me is band, I’m in several bands. I still kind of enjoy playing, but those rehearsals are getting harder and harder to get to. I find myself missing more and more and I feel that it is only a matter of time before I stop going all together. Then I will have nothing.
I have not lived near family for 20 years. And I like it that way. Family has recently moved to town to be closer to us and it is becoming hell. They are fun, we all get along, but it is too much togetherness. Â When my sister in law just moved here, she asked me why I don’t work because it is obvious we are having financial issues. I bravely talked about my depression and anxiety and my inability to leave the house for days on end and I broke down and cried. I got some hugs and sympathy from her and felt kind of good that I admitted to this deep dark secret, and that maybe that was a step in the right direction. But a couple hours later, while drinking wine in my backyard, she mentioned to everyone that she was depressed once. She spent a couple days on the couch watching soap operas and her husband told her she couldn’t do that, that she had to get off the couch and go do something and that was it, she wasn’t depressed again.
I left the gathering and went to my bedroom and cried. How could I be so foolish to open up and be vulnerable to someone like that? And how dare her sit at my house and in front of everyone give me this little lesson in overcoming depression by just getting up off the couch. I’ve been much more distant with her now. Which is really sad, she moved across the country so her child could get to know us, and I push her away.
Today is Thanksgiving, we are going to her house and she will be cheerful and thankful for her life, her family, her friends. Â Norman Rockwell moments make me cry. Â She will want to hang out and play games all day, and I absolutely hate playing games, they make me cry. This is my husbands’ family, and he loves spending time with them. My complaints to him about spending too much time together fall on deaf ears, he likes them and likes to hang out with them. I will go and try to smile, try not to cry, and just get through it without ruining Thanksgiving for everyone.
And then we start working on Christmas. Â Which is even worse for me than Thanksgiving.
So, I think I am done. Â I’m tired of fighting this fight only to sink and start over. Â I get the “suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem” but I don’t feel like my problem is temporary. Â I’ve given it a good go, I think. Â I’m 50 years old, I’ve had this underlying sadness for as long as I can remember. Â Even as a kid, I remember going to parties and standing off to the side watching everyone have fun and feeling overwhelmed with the idea of how to have fun. Â High school was a nightmare. Â I went to 4 of them in 3 states and I never fit in or found a group of friends that I was comfortable with. Â I went to college as an adult, while I worked a full time job. Â So college was just papers and studying, no time at all for the fun dorm stuff.
Yes, I think I’ve given it my best shot and it is time to end this. Â I am such dead weight now. Â I don’t have very many friends. Â The few that I’ve made here have slowly eased out of my life. Â There is no major drama or anything, I think people get tired of my pessimistic attitude all the time, and inviting me places and me never showing up. Â My husband walks on egg shells around me and doesn’t know how to help me, so he chooses to ignore me. Â I’ve asked for a divorce a few times, but he refuses to even think about it. Â He doesn’t believe in it, so here we are living in a hell that we can’t get out of. Â If I take myself out, he will be sad for a bit, but when that life insurance pays he can get ahead of the bills, go back to school, travel and live a life that he was destined to live before fate brought me and my pessimistic, joyless self into his world.
Now, to I wait ’til after the holidays to make it easier for everyone else, or do I do it now to make it easier on me? Â And please don’t tell me that suicide is selfish. Â I think this is the kindest thing I can to do these unfortunate folks who are my family. Â I think of it like a bandaid. Â The initial shock of my death might be a little tough at first, but then the pain will go away, life will go on, and they will not have the burden dragging my joyless self around anymore.
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If you have a college degree, then get a job. That will help the most. Even working 2 minimum wage jobs helps income a little, if you work very long hours.
Get a job? Did you even bother to read what she wrote?
Thanks Dallas.
My last job was a huge failure. I cried and had a panic attacks almost daily. And that was working part-time for an understanding friend. It took everything out of me. I slept, went to work, came home and slept. Not exactly a joyful life.
@No Joy
I know something of how you feel. I also am close to 50, though I’ve only really struggled for the last ten years. But that’s more than enough. Once you’ve run the gambit of anti-depressants, therapy, exercise, getting your thyroid checked (don’t miss out on this one), and so on, you have no obligation to stay and be miserable.
I wish this curse didn’t exist, or at least that it was always curable like therapists like to indicate, but it does and it isn’t, not always.
You’re welcome. The whole “get a job” contingent (and their cousins in the “get off the couch” contingent) may be well-meaning, but they can be wretchedly clueless.
But just let me say this one more time: DO get your thyroid checked. And, if they say they are going to check your blood for thyroid levels, make sure you get them to promise to do a free T3 check as well as checking for just T4. (See: stopthethyroidmadness.com for more details…and read the testimonials from people who had been long-term depressed and got help when their thyroid problems were addressed.)
Then again, I know your health insurance has lapsed, and checking your thyroid is no magic bullet either. And I also know how maddening the “wait, try one more thing, what have you got to lose” crowd can also drive you crazy.
I have to agree with the notion that “get a job” is one of the most blatantly dismissive and insensitive types of responses that can be given in any depression-related scenario.
Work sucks; especially the “two minimum wage jobs” type of work. Why the fuck would any sane person believe that would help anyone who is already drowning in hopeless despair? Especially someone who has wound up on this site.
he was just expressing his idea’s.what is the rash ? “freedom of speech” community.
@joinel:
freedom of speech works both ways.
You are free to say whatever you want, and i am free to criticize it.
@no joy
This may help or not…idk…,but did you try to be aggressive in your life ? Changing your character to be aggressive,can sometimes help for social anxiety.in other words,when your relative tell everyone about your secret,you should have been confront her.i know it is very hard to do that,but try it.and once you try it and broke “your mind rule”(the social anxiety),it will be easier from then on.confront the society just once before you die.may be you can put this to your “last things to do before i die” note.and if you don’t have this note ? I will gladly recommend you to make one.thank you!
@clevername
Yeah,but criticizing is scary when it is too much.
I feel bad for you. Those folks who say “get a job” don’t understand that as much as someone in our position would even want one (as I do), it can be next to impossible to function in one as well. Doing a job correctly involves good memory,, learning abilities, concentration, and a lot of depressed people lack those abilities. It isn’t their fault. I am now the same way (to a certain extent). Just getting a job can improve your self esteem, but only to a certain point.
I hope they can find a solution to your feelings, and something does eventually work for you. You evidently have a lot to live for. You just need to get “it fixed”.
@joinel:
Yeah, but many aspects of life are “scary,” and it’s almost always better to face your fears and confront them, so that you may (or may not) conquer them, or at least learn something useful, or just reduce your fear, and thus, the influence any fear may have upon you.
Plus, it’s just words; words aren’t THAT scary… at least, they shouldn’t be. I would honestly prefer to have the words of warning, rather than being totally blindsided by someone’s unspoken actions. Words might be “scary,” but it’s better to know and fear what could destroy you, than to be completely unaware, and hence, unable to act to avoid it.
@clever
But isn’t it better to “not creat” the fear in the first place ?
I don’t understand when you say “they are just words,and they shouldn’t be scary”.yeah,ofcourse,words shouldn’t be scary,and they are not.the scary thing is “the information” the words posses.it is this information that almost kill your self esteem,and rewards you social anxiety and suicidal thoughts.and this informations are very dangerous,when they become repeated ,as i say,because they cause social anxiety.and if you are not familiar with..? Their are people’s who kill them selves as a result of online bullying.cause they think that, they aren’t even accepted by the online community.and every one is not “as smart as you are” or “as open minded as you are” not to offend by them.
Nope. I’m not creating the fear that already exists, and i bear no obligation to prioritize the fears of another over the need for actual solutions.
What you suggest is similar to “shooting the messenger.”
If i identify a problem and then verbalize it, that doesn’t mean i created the problem. In fact, i am doing everyone a service by bringing attention to it. If no one speaks up, the problem won’t get solved. “All evil requires to prevail, is that good men do nothing.”
The truth is more important than the illusion. The illusion only benefits those who see it; the truth affects us all.
People shouldn’t kill themselves over a difference of opinion, and certainly not over being wrong, or being criticized. That would be pretty absurd. If someone wants to kill themselves over something so absurd… how could anyone possibly help them? We can’t just go around encouraging people to have false hope, or sheltering people from knowledge; that is how this mess got started in the first place. The only reasonable way forward, is to integrate honesty with our interactions, even if that’s not the whole solution. So many of the problems people voice here, could have been avoided if they hadn’t been lied to and taught to judge and form expectations incorrectly.
People might find my honesty brash or abrasive, or whatever… but i assure you all, i “take my own medicine” as much as possible, and am just as honest with myself as i am with others.
It’s not my responsibility to maintain anyone’s delusions for them, and, i think i would be doing us all a disservice by condoning and facilitating such practices. If your delusions are incompatible with reality, then you should discard them; but don’t blame me for whatever you choose to do to yourself based on your own discomfort with the world.
Thanks everyone.
Took the pups for a quick hike. It’s a gorgeous sunny day, perfect temperature and it did feel good to get out. And I do enjoy taking care of the dogs. Our newest is a rescue and has even more baggage than I do. He has been physically abused (he has scars) and has lots of fear issues. He requires lots of patience and love. Sigh. It’s so easy with dogs.
@dallas: you get me! I’ll try the thyroid test. It’s been years since I’ve had one, worth a shot.
@joinel: I understand about being more aggressive. I try to set boundaries and to not be a doormat, but I also want to remain true to my nature. I want to be kind and thoughtful, not confrontational. I don’t think she meant to be mean with her words…she was trying to be helpful. And it totally took me by surprise! But I will keep your advice in mind and give it a try.
@wifeisgone: you get it, too. Sure, on paper the easiest way out of my situation would be to get a job. But if I can barely make coffee and take a shower in the morning now, how the hell can I get to a job on time, learn the job, make decisions, problem-solve and be a team player?
I do know a bit about facing fear.
Public speaking is a fear worse than death to me. I worked through it and got a job giving presentations to 100-200 people. Scary as hell, I always thought I would throw up right before I spoke, but I did it.
I’ve also taken flying lessons to overcome my fear of flying. I’ve trained and competed in long scary races. Gone canyoneering to face my fear of heights. I’ve learned how to motorcycle, gotten back on horses after some major falls, I’ve taken winter driving school to be a better and less fearful winter mountain driver. Those types of fears are very real to me and I was able to overcome lots of them.
The sadness, social anxiety and the belief that I am worthless are more difficult to face.
Off to endure Thanksgiving.
Then you already know: anyone who thinks or says you didn’t try, is a fool.
Its hard. Im experiencing that right now too. I just had a chance for a “higher level” job, one that would have been great for me if I was still my old self prior to what I just experienced. I need a job, have been looking for a while, and so I felt quite pathetic to write this lady an email basically telling her I would not be an asset to her company right now because I am dealing with some serious problems. So, I continue to look for “lesser” jobs, one that I can do simple things, because right now I’m not capable of being a team player. I had a good job as a govt. contractor/marine bilogist until the money was cut for the project.
But yes, what it comes down to, is we just have to deal with what we have.
I felt like crap writing that letter. She had even scheduled an interview for me.
Thats what depression does.
I want my life back.
To clarify….. I was normal until what my wife did, I wasnt depressed before that. I was depressed some when I lost the last job, but its the abandonment that has destroyed me (at least for now).