I get that this site is for suicidal people and all that.. and that’s why i came here. But it’s a place to get help and advice for feeling suicidal now asking for ways to kill yourself. Damn, if you were going to kill yourself, you would have done it already. Suicide is going to hurt and have consequences if it goes wrong either way so there isn’t going to be a painless way. It all hurts in one way or another. But people seem to be mixed up about dying and just wanting rid of the pain.. i thought i wanted to die for so long, but when i did eventually try to kill myself i realised it was just the pain i wanted rid of, not my whole existence! I’m not saying this is everyone.. im probably aiming it more at the teenagers thag come on here saying they want to die, i was one of you. You’re hormones are everywhere, you’re changing in ways your body is freaking out at. Everything seems so much worse than it actually is! Nobody wants, plans or decides to be born. We just are, we all have a purpose in this pretty damn crappy world! It might not seem like it, but that’s just how it is. You could be a parent to amazing children, or be the supportive whatever to whoever.. you could just be a person that pays rent for someone else to live. Either way, you’re born because you were strong before you were out the womb. Life is difficult and crap and whatever else you want to say about it, but so what? We are all going to go through shit in our lives, some more than others and you are going to get hurt all your life.. but the happiness that you can achieve is great! Nothing stays the same and that includes feelings! I hope nobody goes nuts about this, people just annoyed me tonight and i needed to vent out my frustration.
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I get you, but to me this is a place to be heard. Yeah if we were totally 100% serious about ending it we would have done, but just reaching out to someone is sometimes enough to take a person back from the brink. I’ve had my life saved by a member here, I’m sure others would say the same.. And as for not killing yourself because others go through shit too or because you might be a success or be happy later in life that’s kindof not the point, suicide is what you get when current trauma and negative stimulus outweighs the ability to cope. Some people are better at coping than others, some people have been coping for years and are severely physically or mentally ill and are sick of ‘surviving’.
I know I am sometimes.
“if we were totally 100% serious about ending it we would have done” That’s not totally true Hatter. I’ve been past the psychological barrier of suicide. I know I’m mentally strong enough to do the deed but have just failed at it, that’s all. I want a better way of doing it but I know that this is not what this site is for…just saying that’s all.
You’re right, I phrased it badly.. I’ve been past that barrier and attempted too, in hindsight maybe should have written “yeah if we were 100% serious right now we wouldn’t be trying to reach out on here we would be attempting it and not risk being talked out of it on here” or something along those lines..
I guess I meant that when I’ve attempted suicide I shut myself off from others and went for it calmly and peacefully, I didn’t want to post on a forum and talk or call crisis line or care coordinator I just went for it.. Looking over it its my bad on inferring myself onto others..
That’s ok hatter. Btw it is a suicide myth (one of many) that people who announce their intention to suicide don’t go through with it…they do.
i’m too lazy to write a reply to your idiotic, narrow minded, self righteous opinion so I’ll leave it at: you’re a narrow minded, judgmental asshole, you should leave and never come back thanks.
you seriously have the audacity to invalidate people’s feelings on here and assert the idea that you’re ‘holier than thou’ and know what’s right for everyone objectively, i wish you were truly suicidal because the world needs less people like you.
Wtf??!
Really Stendarrs?
*SMH*
Ugh why do I even waste my time, its not like you would give two fucks to even respond to me.
#INoScopedTuPac
after all your comments comforting and giving advice to people Im surprised you’re opposing my opinion. I still like and respect you though koji 🙂
Sorry, I must apologize.
I was rather sensitive to your comment, “I wish you were truly suicidal because the world needs less people like you” and became irate and irrational. I hope I did not offend you in anyway, its just comments like that usually strike a nerve with me.
I can only tell you from my personal experience, comments like that, especially said to you in the worse of times, can honestly be the driving point to committing actual actions. It was for me, it pushed me to my last attempt.
I am sorry if do not make any sense. I think I will take my leave now.
Goodbye. 🙁
Have you ever paid a single bill and realized you’re going to have to live on $20 for the next week, and still didn’t have a freaking furnace or hot water because the bill to turn the gas back on is outlandishly expensive? Not to mention the disturbing lack of food in the fridge/pantry/freezer.
Ever eat ramen noodles as a dietary staple for more than six months?
After a while, you get mad. Then you get tired of being mad because that doesn’t help, so you try to make the most of it. Then you get sick of eating ramen noodles and have a nervous breakdown because it’s freaking cold in the damn shower and winter’s coming. Then you go insane and start trying to organize a carpet fiber collection by gluing bits of carpet to the walls and laughing hysterically. Then they come to take you away, ha ha, ho ho, he he, to the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time….
Just sayin’. It’s not /all/ about feelings, but feelings do exist. Not denying it. If it’s just a question of finding a way to cope with the lunacy of life in the real world, so be it; that’s what needs to happen, but it’s hard coming up with answers when you’re confronted by something that’s tangible and real and doesn’t seem to budge when you push and shove on it all day, every day, without fail, because the alternative is something even worse than your current circumstances. The emotions are just a secondary effect.
For teenagers whose parents are on the brink – that goes doubly. They probably feel even more stuck, helpless, at the mercy of whatever winds are passing by in their already turbulent lives… Not saying it’s true, or right to expect things to always be hard, and always be bad because it sure as hell isn’t. But there’s no denying that there’s a certain logic to drawing those conclusions.
“If you were going to kill yourself, you would have done it already” Not entirely true… Suicide is hard. The body has a will of it’s own, a will to live, and it’s difficult to get past that threshold. I bet you didn’t see the scar pics that I posted, but I slit my forearms basically from wrists to just below my elbows, I bled forever and survived. I needed over 100 stitches, about 35 sub-dermal stitches. The gashes were huge, almost an inch across width wise. My body survived, and betrayed me. Failed attempts are why people generally ask for advice on how to effectively, painlessly and quickly kill themselves. Having sliced myself open to such an extent, I don’t think I could do it again, and now there is scar tissue covering my veins, so I’d have to cut way deeper a second time to get any likelihood of a result.
Just my feelings on the matter.
This post makes me want to ask a few pertinent questions, but I won’t. Most on here are already depressed enough, going through enough pointless pain. And I feel deeply for them.
Pointing out a few realities to the OP would cost too much.
“Most on here are already depressed enough, going through enough pointless pain.”
Hmmmm, can you please elobaorate what ‘pointless pain’ is?
I am sorry, my comphresion skills are kind lacking ya know so I hope it doesn’t cost to much for you to clarify.
I can say honestly that I have visited this site when I was good and ready to put a bullet in my head. But then I’ve been able to defuse the situation by writing and knowing I will get at least some feedback (unless my posts are completely whack, which they sometimes are). Or, I may see a posting by someone that just needs a shoulder to lean on or an ear to listen and I can give back a little. It’s pretty hard to stay focused on killing yourself and consciously listen to others express their grief and pain at the same time.
Even if this site provides a temporary distraction, five minutes can sometimes buy a lifetime. And I am glad there is a place where I can vomit and not be judged.
– peace
That post wasn’t meant to be taken out of proportion. It’s how i feel. I’ve tried to kill myself countless times, im a self harmer and have been for 9 years. I aimed it more at teenagers because i had a shit family backround and i thought everything was so much worse that it actually was. I wasn’t meant to offend anybody. But 5 seconds of stendarr, you’re an absolute prick, you have made a few dickish comments of my posts, you should just be shot! You think you make people feel better or give decent advicd, no, i’ve seen some of your comments to people and you are an absolute piece of shit. Get yourself to fuck.
We’ve run this thread out of steam. In fact it’s gotten a bit out of hand. But I wanted to add one thing – You said that if any of us really wanted to die we would have killed ourselves by now. I don’t think so.
I don’t want to die. I just don’t have any other options left. Others may think I do; others might even be able to come up with alternatives I didn’t think of or more likely, alternatives I don’t believe I can do. But the reality is if I had another path I would choose life. Does this make me weak? Stupid? Confused? Inept? Maybe.
I know what I want and need and I know what must change for me to stop ruminating about suicide. But it us all just out of reach. And that is my reality.
Due to current circumstances I have a much better understanding of daytime television. This site reminds me of Ghost Adventures because it’s kind of spooky, people have strange ideas and always seem to freak out for no apparent reason.
Stopped reading at: “if you were going to kill yourself, you would have done it already.”
Sometimes I think I just need a hug from a bunch of suicidal people. Why, Why? has this eluded me for so long. j/k I don’t want a hug really.
Awww… But I wanted to give you a hug =(
The last time that happened on the internet I found out the person behind the other computer was actually a man. Notwithstanding this unfortunate incident I don’t think I’m a hugger. Yeah, it’s nothing to be ashamed about… I’m just not a hugger.
What’s wrong with men hugging men? >=( I hug my guy friends all the time. Actual, genuine hugs. (Man hugs suck) And I’m a dude. There’s nothing wrong with that. I know I’m blowing this out of proportion, but sexist comments really piss me off. And yeah, okay, you’re not a hugger. Cool.
Yuck.
Men and their “manliness.” Yuck to you too sir. Go feminism.
Feminism is stupid. Men and women are not equal, women are better at some things and men are better at others. That’s the whole point of yin-yang, they complete each other. That said, a brotherly hug from a male to another male is nothing to be ashamed of. But I understand that some men can’t handle it.
Yes they are. This ying yang stuff is bullshit. I can’t sit at home and cook just cause I’m a guy? Women are better at sitting at home and cooking? Men are better at working than women? Women are more empathetic? Men are more powerful? Puh-lease. And brotherly my ass. Love is love. Whether it is platonic or not. Why is it that only some men have a problem hugging? Why do women have no problems doing that? Society makes men ashamed of that stuff. And society encourages women not to be. I believe that men and women are equal. Sexism almost ruined my life. It made me think that I should be a woman because of my liking of feminine things and my orientation. But there’s nothing wrong with having a penis and a big body. I am who I am. Period. Anyone that has a problem with that can go fuck themselves.
Maybe I’m missing something but what’s the connection between a man hugging another man and feminism. Is it that they are both wrong?
Feminism aims to make the sexes equal. It aims to empower women, but it also aims to allow men to feel more vulnerable.
I think you’ll find I know a lot about feminism and important stuff because I read the Racing Post. It all goes back to women’s suffrage and which published an article on Emily Davison, the poster girl for feminists around the world. Some would even go as far as to say she was a martyr for their cause. She died by running in front of King George V’s horse in the 1913 Epsom Derby. She was trampled under the horse and her dead body was dragged across the line in front of everyone. The race was ruined and the horse was traumatised for life. That’s what feminism is about in a nutshell.
Anyway, I accept that generally women do more work than men and have less control.
*sigh* well, to each his or her own. All I’m gonna say is that sexism sometimes hurts and restricts people from doing what they feel is their calling. Peace out.
Exactly. There are probably women on this site right now who are in need of a hug because they are aggrieved by what is happening.
I do actually agree with you on gender equality but there are limits, you know?
I’m with K’sG on the no-hugging-men policy. It’s awkward. It’s an invasion of my personal space. Why should I consent to such a weird, unnecessary, effeminate bonding ritual?
I’m not even sure if I’d want to associate with a male serial hugger.
i’ve heard that bro-hugs don’t compromise your hetero card, neither do “bro jobs”
how do guys express platonic fondness for each other? do they punch each other in the face or kick each other in the balls or something else “manly”?
A proper way for one man to express affection for another would be through good natured insults; or by tackling him, punching him repeatedly, then buying him a beer and saying “that was fun, huh”. 🙂
(The jury is still out on whether or not smily-face emoticons jeopardize your man card).
A lot of men are unfortunately insecure. I am too, just not with sexuality. I understand a hug doesn’t mean I’m gay 🙂
Men punching each other: that really sounds gay. Ever watch wrestling? Super Gay. (No offense meant to homosexuals – I totally support the LGBT crowd.)
I believe that some guys are into handshake rituals and shit. “Good natured insults” does seem common too. But getting black eyes and your teeth knocked out because you took your insults too far… yeah, that’s just immaturity.
For the record, I’m not a hugger either. I’ll wave or politely nod/bow instead.
I’m sorry feminists. Sorry for what I said. Maybe one day when the world is less messed up this issue will be resolved with the need for us having to embrace each other in that way. But until then we must fight for equality and against race/match fixing. Things have gone terribly wrong but I believe we can all find our way out somehow. Good luck.
Sorry that I annoyed you rainbow123. So very sorry about everything. Why is this happening lord only knows but eventually it has to stop. It can’t carry on like this perpetually.
Nobody has annoyed me, especially not you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and im glad my post ended in a cheerful conversation about feminism 🙂