I am 60+. I am desperate. There is no help to be found, anywhere. Even for my simple problem.
I look for ways to exit. That is my right. But I can not find any sure way that is even semi-humane.
Why? Because every damn drug that could’ve helped me to do it peacefully has been withdrawn from the market.
They proudly announce their success in reducing peaceful suicides. Even though suicide rates continue to rise. Yet they offer no help in return. That is brutal, primitive and being proud of increasing torture. That is being an uncaring monster.
What a sick society we have.
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Agreed.
Yup. I don’t give a fucking damn about SUICIDE PREVENTION. I care about MAKING LIFE BETTER. If you aren’t going to MAKE MY LIFE BETTER, then for the love of god, don’t take away what might be my BEST OPTION. Some of us have no better alternatives…
And I get that some of us are just impulsive. But find a screening mechanism (just let me buy ******** after a three-year delay and continual verbal confirmation of intention to die) and let the ones who really want to die go.
Yeah. I don’t understand why they don’t allow people to commit suicide with dignity.
Policy is made by those with money and power and influence over others. Generally, those of us on the edge have none of those things. Policy is being dictated to us without ANY understanding or consideration of what our needs and desires are. Policy is being made for us by people with no understanding of pain and suicide (or r*tard social workers who may have experienced two months of facebook-related mild depression during high school. Society doesn’t understanding suicide and the idea makes the healthy feel bad about themselves. So they try to keep it from happening, not out of any concern for US but only for their own moral fastidiousness.
Suicide prevention isn’t about helping suicidal people. It’s about making non-suicidal people feel better about themselves by depriving the suicidal of their options.
“We did what we could…” — Society
No, you didn’t. You waited until this was my only choice and only then tried to take away my final freedom. You were fine with leaving me alone to rot then, so you should be fine with letting me die now.
Yes indeed
Exactly right. Self-serving hypocrites.
Another favourite is ” If only he/she talked to somebody”. Well you miserable, self-deluding hypocrite, I did, over and over and over. Now go fuck yourself.
If I have to go commit suicide in the only ways available to me, the cost of clearing up the mess and the response teams would be triple what I need to save my life. I can recover. But i can’t even find that measly amount. All I can find is useless empty cheap words. This is all they do. Cheap words to make themselves feel better.
Fuck em.
what do u mean by what you need to save your life?
I need God. The Almighty $. 5000 lousy pieces of Almighty God to be exact. And I will repay it.
That’s it. The rest i can do myself. Just like I pulled myself out of 15 years of deep depression 11 years ago. When meds/ psych snake-oil drug-dealing salesmen only managed to get me to the edge. I pulled myself out, for my daughter.
This time my mind cannot solve my problem. this time it is hard, cold, God.
Maybe this is too personal but how will 5k save your life?
It will get me ‘home’. I have things I can do there.
Ahhh, ok. I hope you get it somehow. Wish I had it to give.
Agreed.
“What a sick society we have.”
Why? Because there’s not a socially accepted ‘end it all’ pill at Walmart?
I am all for autonomy and the right for someone to do as they will with their own personhood, but I do not believe its society’s responsibility to provide a method for those who want to check out. Its not like the few thousand people who succeeded in committing suicide everyday are complaining and failed in finding a viable method.
Ughh, why should I even continue talking.
Never mind.
Society doesn’t have a responsibility to help me die. I just want it to stop INTERFERING. Ideally, I want it to stop restricting barbiturates drugs that provide a peaceful death. Let me engage in consensual market transactions for a death with dignity. But if that’s too much, I want a form that allows me to refuse all medical care so that I can just shoot myself and not have to worry about some dumbass doctor “saving”/torturing me by turning me into a quadriplegic or a vegetable. Nothing terrifies me more than that. Even in the deep wilderness, there is a chance of being “saved.”
Advance directives are sometimes ignored using the excuse that the person is too depressed to make decisions for himself.. I just want for society to stop interfering with me.
society isn’t an all merciful being that it is going to live you alone. It will go up your ass and live no way for a painless escape.
@Koji
45cali is more tactful than i feel today.
“Ughh, why should I even continue talking.
Never mind.”
Good question. Maybe brushing up your comprehension skills is a good idea.
Nowhere did I say it has to supply ” a socially accepted ‘end it all’ pill at Walmart”.
Just stop outlawing every viable option.
But since you brought it up. Yes, it does have an obligation to help end suffering. We do it for our animals. Yet, mostly because of religiously-inspired crap, we make humans suffer as long as possible. That is what society means. Caring for each other.
Life is not precious. We all die. Stop actively trying to make people suffer. Length of life is irrelevant, only quality of life is.
So I’ll repeat. I don’t expect society to be kind enough to supply ” a socially accepted ‘end it all’ pill at Walmart”. I expect it to evolve from primitive ideas and stop actively being brutal.
“Maybe brushing up your comprehension skills is a good idea.”
Okie dokie, will do.
I don’t think the point is that effective means should be “provided” by society but more that society should stop acting like a nanny that “knows best” when outlawing items that have an otherwise benign/beneficial use simply because some people chose to use them in ways other than the manufacturer’s indicated use. And I think I agree that society has gone overboard with it’s need to “protect” me from stuff. It seems rather heartless and particularly vicious to force those that choose to exit to use the most violent and painful means to do so … it certainly lacks compassion at the very least. That said, hypoxia/inert gas methods are a pretty sure thing and relatively inexpensive. But like drug use, if people choose to do a thing, let them choose it … criminalizing or otherwise regulating it seems overzealous and/or tyrannical. It’s funny how the religious folk proudly proclaim how their god gave humanity free will yet those who proclaim this religiosity are so quick to deny you your “god given” right to exercise it.
budget dawg
There are plenty of ways to commit suicide. U just need to do some researcch and find the way that is best for you.
Of course there is. If you have the resources. However, most are brutal. That’s my whole point.
And most are iffy. I am not in the US and don’t have the luxury of a gun.
I will. But that does not change the fact that this dog-eat-dog hypocritical society stinks.
Agreed. I’m thinking more than one method at the same time…maybe that approach will be more definite.
At one point, I was planning on jumping and shooting at the same time. Realized it wasn’t a sure thing since I couldn’t be sure if I could fall over if I shot myself and shooting in an urban area would make it easier for a dumbass doctor to “save”/torture me into living. Eventually decided on shooting in the deep wilderness. But that didn’t work out either…
Excuse my black humour. It is one of my charming traits. The jumping and shooting at the same time is pretty damned iffy.
I only say this because some 12 years ago I got pushed to the point by depression and the good pshyc drug dealers to start playing with guns. I was in a country where I could own a gun at the time. Black Talons need no backup. But I couldn’t pull the trigger.
How I wish i did.
I feel as a humane society we should have some basic rights and choices and the freedom to choose death should be one of them.. Not a citizen of the us though but from a 1st world country..
Sick of life too.. I know people will rebutt me saying go die them.. However humans have an inborn resistance to death which makes methods like jumping, hanging tough.. That brings me back to the qs.. why are barbiturates being stopped/banned? read one of the better ways of suicide.
I wish I had access to barbiturates too. No one should have to obliterate their head with a shotgun in order to leave life. But I can understand placing some restrictions on barbiturate sales. The goal of policy on suicide should be to reduce impulsive and out-of-control suicides while allowing well-considered suicides to occur with dignity. One way to do it would be to create a market for barbiturates that has a one or two year mandatory waiting time that requires continual verbal confirmation of intent, mandatory therapy/medication treatments, etc.
So what is your plan if you really wished to exit this world.
For myself my best bet would be jumping from 30th floor.. lethal and deadly but gorey and messy..
If i had the guts..
I would dress myself in red with red nails and black heels.. i have long dark wavy hair.
Do my final makeup..
Then jump..
The chinese have a saying a woman who dies in red will come back a vengeful ghost..
I haven’t settled yet and am exploring my options, but I am sure that I will make an attempt in the next six months to a few years. If I had to do it tomorrow, I’d take a long hike into the wilderness with a large caliber handgun. Literally the only thing holding me back now is the fear of failing and surviving with injury.
Also, I am trying to think about other various combination methods. Jumping/other forms of impact suicide (car, motorcycle, airplane) and possibly charcoal can be combined with gunshot to the head for extra reliability.