Hi everyone. 🙂
The short version of this is I might not be on SP as much in the future. The longer version is just a vent about everything that’s been going on lately.
It seems surreal to me that only a couple of months ago I was texting a friend to say I thought I was starting to recover from depression. I’ve said it twice in the last five to six years. Things started to get worse again this time when my ME/CFS got worse. That seems to be improving now, although it’s been up and down lately, but the depression is still going downhill.
I cut again yesterday. Before then, I don’t remember the last time I did it. I don’t think it’s happened this year, although the urge came back repeatedly this summer. It feels like a couple of years since it happened last, though it’s probably happened several times since then. For a couple of hours before I started, I felt close to a panic attack. I only cut lightly, but I’d forgotten how overwhelming the need to carry on is. I was so shocked that I did it again. I always tell people that doing it once doesn’t take away from all the time you’ve managed to go without it, and I firmly believe that. But it still left me stunned and frightened. My feelings and thoughts have been feeling more out of control lately, and that felt like another step towards losing control over my actions too. Feeling the agony of depression as it becomes more severe is close to unbearable, but in some ways it’s worse to feel that the depression and all the thoughts, feelings and behaviours that can come with it are out of your control.
More and more often, I feel hopeless about recovery and helpless to take the necessary steps towards it. I realise I need help. It’s the least that the people around me deserve, and I don’t want to keep feeling this way. Even the better days are incredibly difficult. I don’t want to go back to my GP. For the time being I don’t want any of the help they can offer. There’s one course I’d like to get a referral for, but mainly I’m still looking into newer or alternative treatment programmes. At the moment I’m slowly reading about them and trying to figure out which to go for. Social anxiety was stopping me getting in touch with one of them for a while, but since I’ve been looking into others I’ve been comparing prices and thinking about recovery rates, money back guarantees, the illnesses I need treated, which to begin with, whether having one could hold me back from getting past another more than the other way round, whether or for how long I should focus specifically on one before the others, etc etc.
The social anxiety has got worse lately, to the point that it’s made it a lot harder to comment here. I think it’s mainly caused by the confusion from ME. No one has commented about it except when I’ve completely misread something or forgotten something important, but it makes me so uncomfortable when I’m talking to people and I’m unable to understand the things they’re saying. I talk about it a lot but I mostly think of it as an inconvenience, and I haven’t really realised until recently how deeply it’s affecting me. I know I’ve been struggling with it for a long time but I usually try not to think about it except when it’s affecting me badly. I always feel like I shouldn’t allow it to bother me when it isn’t at its worst, and I only realised recently that I’m being so harsh with myself. For a week or two it usually seemed at its worst, where I couldn’t remember who people were or where I was through most conversations, and my mind was constantly vaguely remembering and piecing things together again, then completely forgetting, on fast repeat. The cognitive difficulties have been getting a lot worse. In the last week or so they’ve improved significantly, which I’m so glad about, because they’ve become more distressing than you’d imagine them being, and they’ve been making me feel a lot more isolated. They’re still there, though they’ve improved so quickly. I don’t feel as anxious when they’re less severe. But the anxiety has existed for years and I still feel it constantly, and it feels like it’s getting worse again.
I’ve never thought about anxiety as being one of my worst problems. I pushed it further and further away until it finally stopped me from being able to function in day to day life. When I was a child and young teen, I was given everything and had everything done for me. One of the things my parents gave me was the right to make my own decisions. So when I became more ill, when the world became too painful and terrifying to be a part of anymore, my mum tried to persuade me to see a doctor. But I wouldn’t. I didn’t think I could. Most of the time she was comforting, but there were times she shouted, times I tried to escape her and tried hard not to hear the things she said. When I was at school, at one point I managed to go back and they let me stay away from my regular lessons one day so I could spend some time by myself, which helped. After that my friends were supportive, and I felt like I join them again. But there were other times they wouldn’t take it seriously, and at the time I let those have a much deeper influence on me. Years later when I was 16, the anxiety, linked stress and severe depression got to their worst yet and my life completely gave way under my feet. Two years went by, and I got worse. When I was 18 I finally built the courage to speak to people in writing online. One of them said he was angry that my parents hadn’t made me get help. It wasn’t something they’d do, but I wish they had, or that they’d found something that could have worked more easily for me. I thought the only way to get help was going to see a doctor, and anyone I spoke to until then thought the same.
I spent my life thinking all those problems were something to avoid. It felt weak to let them affect me, but they started to more deeply over time. I did an activity on MoodGYM a couple of days ago which was quite interesting – you have to make a list of things you like and dislike about yourself. One of the things I wrote down as a negative point was still having the mindset, at times, that it’s weak to let any problems affect you until they reach depths that you can’t ignore.
Depression has always been my most severe problem, and a lot of times over the years I never really let myself accept the anxiety as another problem that needed attention. Like depression, it’s been there all my life, and I realised I find it harder to imagine getting past the anxiety than any other problems, even severe depression that’s lasted 5-6 years, and even ME which not many people completely recover from. I think it’s because I’ve normalised anxiety. I didn’t just see it as something I have – it feels closer to something I’ve always been.
I know there are people who fully recover from anxiety, but I keep struggling to believe it’s possible. It’s a hurdle that’s stopped me from doing so many things, or made me worry about small, everyday issues time and time again, while depression was (and is) something I could usually hide. Even if I can stop anxiety from being the constant experience it’s become, it’s like it’ll be left behind in some form no matter what else happens. My mum said the other day that she thought I should go into support work like her when my ME improves. She thought I’d like it, and she said there are lots of volunteer opportunities to get into it and much less of a demand for qualifications than there usually is nowadays. If I was well enough I could take a course at the same time. It could be perfect for me, though I would never consider doing that kind of work while my depression is so severe. But I can’t imagine being able to do it without constant panic or worrying.
I can’t stand feeling like I can’t control my own mind, but my instinctual response is still to try to escape the painful thoughts, rather than facing them and trying to change them. I’m trying not to let my past influence decisions about the future, but the anxiety itself is much harder to overcome than thoughts. It’s like a block, in the same way that depression is a block against happiness.
As my depression has grown worse, so has the disconnectedness between other people and myself. One of the things I value most is being able to love and value people, and I’m always grateful when those feelings are returned. It’s like there’s a force inside me, still stronger than my conscious mind, which is aware of that and tries every day to take those feelings away. Sometimes it comes in the form of thoughts, which I can try to overcome. At times they’re convictions that people don’t care about me. Much, much worse are the times when it’s like someone is trying to convince me not to love or care about them. Thoughts like that make me feel nauseous, and lately the pain and guilt following them is enough to make me want to die. Other times there’s just a feeling of being completely separate to others. Often I forget about people. When I try to remember and finally think of someone I love, it’s like an alien concept to me. Sometimes the feelings towards them are only clouded, but other times I can’t feel anything towards them. Sometimes all I can feel is fear or animosity. I don’t know if part of it is the less evolved parts of the mind thinking that psychological pain and fear must = an outside threat, so I start to see everyone that way. It’s probably a combination of that, severe forgetfulness and depression making me focus on the negative to shocking extremes. It’s bizarre how suddenly it can turn around the direction of my thoughts, until I’m close to believing the opposite to moments before. It’s exhausting trying to repair it every time. All I can do is rationalise my thoughts. I can never bring those feelings back. I can’t bear that phenomenon where the things you love the most can become the worst things to think about when you’re at your worst, because they can seem so different or unrecognisable to you in a single moment.
I’ve been thinking for a couple of weeks that if my depression keeps getting worse I might have to leave SP. I really wanted to stay. It’s a huge comfort to comment and post here. It’s been harder to do so while the ME symptoms have been more severe. They’ve been improving, but depression is making it difficult too now. At times like this, I’m usually unable to comment, and I start to feel worse when I come here. The suicidal feelings become more pervasive and a lot more painful. There are times when I can’t afford to risk it becoming a trigger, and I don’t feel I can help myself or anyone else by being here. Coming back here has changed so much for me. I couldn’t bear it suddenly becoming so difficult. I’m coming to terms with it now (along with the things in the paragraph above) but I don’t want to leave unless I have to, and I don’t know what will happen in the next few weeks or months. So I’ll be quieter, but I’m not planning on leaving for good.
I hope you brave souls who read to the end of this are doing okay. Sorry if my writing is clumsy. Thank you so much, anyone who read this or any of my other posts. There was a lot more I wanted to say, but it can wait for another time. I just wanted to get some things of my chest while I still feel physically and mentally able to.
love to you all,
Y
22 comments
I know it’s not easy, but I just wanted to say a few things:
1. I love you. No matter what happens to you or me, I do not plan on going away. You’ve become like a sister to me in this past month or so that I’ve known you, and it’s comforting to know that you always check on me to see how I’m doing…
2. I am having such a time understand everything you’re feeling, mostly because I am unable to relate to your situation in any way, shape or form :/ .. It’s like a huge cloud of emotions. I’m terrible at reading it all.
3. I just thought about the amount of time it took you to write this post, and I’m always glad to read your posts and see the helpful and heartfelt comments you make here.. So many people love you and that’s not gonna change because you are “stepping back” a little bit.
4. You have a beautiful soul.
5. I don’t know how much this helps but I do hope things will work out better for you in the future…
6. Reiteration: I love you so much, Trix.
Love,
Your little brother,
Trey, the mindless gamer.
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@mindlessgamer619,
Thank you so much for your comment. 🙂 All of it helps so much. It doesn’t matter if you can’t relate – just knowing you read the things I write and care makes all the difference. 🙂
I have been quieter too. I’m not feeling talkative; I’m living a very weird, complicated moment in my life and that makes me want to stop talking to people. It’s not simply depression, I think. It’s a whole combination of dilemmas and personal dramas. I’m sorry that things are bad right now. I wish I could write something to make you smile which is what you deserve to read, but my brain isn’t really working right now lol. So here’s a *hug* and a reminder that I’m here if you ever need to talk or vent. Hugs x
(PS. Your writing is never clumsy)
@Tristeza,
I’m sorry you’re going through so much right now as well. Same to you – I’m always here to talk to. 🙂
Actually i get a lot of what you’re saying, because even if i don’t have ME (or at least i have no way of checking if i have it or not), i do have many of it’s symptoms like we discussed at some point (can’t remember when, since my sense of time is goddamn awful).
I could write a lot and turn this into a huge block of text but… you know? it would all point to this: i do hope you find a solution to everything that’s harming you, or at least a way to make it more endurable. Even if we just sort of reply to each other in other people’s posts and always end up cutting the communication abruptly (hey life happens), i do enjoy those idea exchanges a lot, and cherish them as well. Also, even if you think your cognitive levels are somewhat flaky… heh, you’re a lot smarter than many 20-something yolds that i know, and a lot brighter too, and if you’ve ever gotten confused by something i’ve posted… heck, blame it on my bad english (because it sucks, lol).
If you do have to leave sp for your own sake (or post less) i’d say go for it, you’ll be sorely missed, but i’m pretty sure most would agree with those points. Do keep in mind that you don’t have to post often with solutions to everyone or everything to be helpful, and people do care about you a lot here (me included). Have a *hug* and… well, i do hope things improve at some point (for all of us).
Thanks, Mf. 🙂 I really appreciate that, and I feel the same. I hope we keep crossing paths from time to time. 🙂
I read the whole thing. Thank you for posting. I will keep reading and keep supporting you. I feel a lot of this at times.
@Hazy Day Sunflower,
Thank you. 🙂 Sorry I haven’t been keeping up with your posts lately. You’re still in my thoughts and I’ll keep checking in when I can. 🙂
Here let me sum my posts up for you:
I didn’t put a gun in my mouth and blow my brains out the back of my head.
There readers digest condensed version of my life today.
You’re welcome.
Sunflower… <3 Please keep your brain in one piece.
I hope you stay. Not just here on SP, but I hope you don’t drown in your ME/CFS, etc. I hope you are able to stay yourself through all of which you battle through. I am always here to listen.
@Take a Deep Breath,
Thank you. 🙂 I hope the same for you, and of course I’m here to listen too, anytime you want/need another person to talk to.
Sorry things are so rough right now. I hope you find treatment that works for you. We are always here when you need us. hugs.
@theWhispersOfMySins,
Thank you so much. 🙂
I am so sorry that you are feeling so terrible. Well done to you for trying, like doing moodgym and continuing to look in to possible treatments. I always like your comments so much. You have so much insight, wisdom, compassion and empathy but it is sad that those things are probably borne of your own suffering. I wish you strength and courage in this dark time. If SP is triggering then you must stay away but do remember that we are here for you.
@bruiseviolet,
Thank you for everything. It means so much to me. I love reading your comments too. Thank you for everything you bring here. 🙂
The approach your choosing wont lessen your pain.. I know from expeirence. You’ll leave SP out of frustration.. You cut out of depression and you disnonnecting your self from the world out of anxiety. This is a chain dragged from the very frustration, its the source of depression and anxiety. The good thing is you desire help and you seek it, no matter how feeble is that intention, its a good sign. The bad thing is i noticed that you try to believe so hard in things you dont actually believe in. They make no sense and they are definitly not something you would like to do.. It only cause you more suffering.. yet you still continue. You no longer know the answers to you fill those blanks so you borrow the answeres from those you think they have. The fact is none other than urself have the answer for urself.. People merely guide you.. All directions in the end lead to the same destination, yet the approaches differs.. There are some long and hard one, some are short.. So many questions.. Where do i even begin. I know its hard to find help when u dont even know where to begin. Am gona try to show u the beginning line.. The source of darkness.. The well of corruption. However in the process i will be breaking my golden rule today.. The foundation of my survival rules i have committed to long before.. The reason am still alive.. i will pay for it dearly later, however mind it not. Because You are worth breaking every single delusional rule i have. You are definitely.. Definitely worth breaking everything in my life for. I dont even know why am going this far, but since am breaking my rules today.. Am gona say all i want. I like you.. I really think about you and imagine you.. I really.. Really Want you to be happy. I will try to help you today.. I only have one shot so please.. Please dont let it go in vain.. This is my last wish for u. Now, i want you to read very carefully what i will be writing because.. This is my last comment.. Not because i dont want to comment. Id actually love to get know u even more.. But my time is running out. Anyway, i will try to make you see things differently.. Its a thing i dedicated my life for and used to practice before i… Became this. So the head of the demon is frustration. This frustration is not from being unable to comprehend or anything. Its not from the pain or the illness you have.. You have been through and experienced that all your life.. Its from being unable to accept yourself. Not accepting urself is good because it drive us to improve but within our range of capabilities. For instance, one day i lost my leg, if i was walking and i fell because of my missing leg and i cried out of anger and started to shout gibbrish words that mean i want my leg back.. I dont want this .. I dont want what i became.. I would blush and apologize to anyone with me thinking am embarrassing because i am “me”. No one expect from a guy whose hand is broken to handshake people right? However, believe me no matter how hard i try to act as if i have 2 normal legs, people will find out i am missing a leg and they will try to hurt me in any mean.. I simply become reflective , I stand up, give little chuckle, comfort everyone am fine, maybe seize this chance to make people spoil me abit like “the pain wont go untill everyone here buys me an ice cream!”. This indicates i am perfectly accepting myself and am perfectly ‘fine’ with what i have. It doesnt matter if i get myself a new mechanical leg or have a cane with me.. No matter how hard i try to fill that need.. if i dont accept it.. Nothing will fill it even if i became the world champion in running. This what people mean when they say “let it go” they mean, its okay to lose.. Its time to leave ur teddy bear and move on.. Its like i lent someone, umm lets say 50 bucks and he came one day and gave me 100 bucks.. I would smile and say think he is stupidly generous but inside me i “want” my 50 bucks.. Even if i have 100 now which is the double, correct me if am wrong cause i suck at math .. I still want my 50 bucks. Why? Because it belongs to “me” this 100 is yours and the 50 that i gave you is mine and i want my very 50 back!. I want my body and its functions and this illness is taking it away from me.. Even if its giving me something else i don’t realize, whether good or bad it was. I know.. I precisely know that being on a variable state is what causing the frustration.. Oneday ur fine the next ur bad.. I am saying accept it from the roots. Its like a forecasting next week weather will be disastrous. There will be rain, snow, dust.. Hey maybe a tornado.. Throw a volcano eruption, why not!.. You know next week will be a pandemonium, so its okay u know whats coming, u see rain, u stay at home with ur mug full vanilla coffen curled in bed with a big bowl of toffee pudding watching a moving with couple of friends. the next day nothing oh good heaven! Time for shopping, the road is slippery from yesterday, gota be careful while walking. The other day dust.. What the hell, so much sneezing, deal with it thats the weather. Anyway This desire of “never enough”, “i dont want to be like this” is oblivious.. Truly oblivious because once you don’t meet the requirements of the things you want, you become.. Frustrated. And believe me one ever meet the requirements he want in ‘anything’.. This why we say “none is perfect” and try to accept people for instance of who they are.. This is why after we give anyone 3 advises or 4 .. Unless ur mom and give me beyond counting advises.. Then you will stop trying to change that aspect ur trying to change and start to accept it. An inspiring true off topic story, I personally used to have a chat with.. An old man who was very close to me.. And i considered him my teacher and a great example, so we used chat about things i normally don’t talk about. He looked at me and told me, do you know when you are dying? I honestly said no. He said when you see your body dies.. You see your jet vivid black hair become soulless and white.. Your teeth falls.. You can no longer chew or yell.. Your sights vanish.. Your hearing, your senses, your memory, your whole body.. You literally see yourself slowly shutting down.. When you see those sign then you know your time is running out.. But when i look at you, i dont see any signs of departure. Strong teeth, black hair smooth skin.. a long way.. You have a long way.. So many opportunities, so many changes.. If you ever thought that you can stay in one phase, mood or personality for ur whole life, then ur an idiot.. If you want to prove me wrong then name 1 thing in this whole universe that didnt change since creation, then ill confess that i smoke 2 packs of cigs a day, oh i just said it.. And we laughed. You will find ur answer once you lessen that bond between you and those desires of belonging, having and wanting.. And most of all, loving urself. Then You will be able to let go hence accept. Believe it or not.. Every single person on this universe who claim he has a problem.. Inside him he know EXACTLY the answer and the solution to that problem.. But they choose to overlook and not give it attention.
I hope i helped.. after all.. What do i know..i mean I am the last person to take advise from because i only lose .. To be precise, i no longer try to win. And those who only lose cannot tell you how to be successful. They will simply drag you to their level because they only know how to descend and not to ascend. Its those who are successful can tell you both how to avoid losing and how to be successful because.. You cannot win unless you lose along the way. You may say, if you claim you know the answers of ur problems then why are u so god demn miserable? Its simply because i chose to be this way.. Isn’t it sad.. For Someone to choose to be miserable? Anyway this is not about me.. Its about you.. Remember, being ill is not a choice.. Staying ill is a choice. And i mean both physical and mental illness. It doesnt matter how much darkness in ur life or how much suffering.. You can change for good.. I know for a fact because, stars always glitter and so far.. You are my favorite star in the sky and in my eyes full of darkness.. You glitter..
Sorry for my english, i know i suck. Please, you dont have to reply to this comment or anything. Its annoying when u type a reply and u think u didnt give it justice. So, dont bother, am really cool with it. And its because will not be able to read ur reply.
You once said that i dont know how much my comment meant to you.. I want you to know that you dont know how much your posts mean to me.
Shine even more you brilliant glittering star..
From a nobody.. A mere stranger whom none will know or remember..
Farewell~
Oh…
You are wrong if you think no one will remember you, least of all Trix. A username may be all we are left with, but the fact remains that it will stay embedded in memory.
I hate the fact that you always suffer for breaking your ‘rules’ of commenting. Each time I see them it hurts a little.
Bless you. And thank you. May you find peace.
StrangerUnderRain, seriously I just read this again..
I don’t think every person with a problem knows the exact answer inside, but I think they at least know paths they can take to help solve them. Not every problem has a solution, but many of them can be lessened.
It’s such a beautiful comment and it makes me sad. And the reason why I’m writing is because I know Trix will reply but you say you won’t read it, which I know what that means. I don’t know how soon you plan on leaving. I don’t know if you will read this either. But I know it can take her longer to reply and I hope I can try to express something here to you.
If this touched me as a stranger it wasn’t directed to, you have to know how much it will mean to her. You should know already. But just in case you don’t and you can’t read her reply I am telling you.
And, as is constantly being told to her lovely soul, your comment was perfectly understandable.
I want to say thank you again. Thank you for writing this, for sharing. It wasn’t for me but I appreciated it. She will too, so so much.
If it is your time to go, then I hope there is much peace awaiting you. A ‘nobody’ such as yourself deserves no less. I’ve long kept the belief that there is a lot of wisdom to be found here. I keep getting proved right.
You have a light that shines, despite whatever shadows keep you company.
StrangerUnderRain,
I won’t let it go in vain. I always save your messages and read over them again. There’s a lot I could say about your comment here and I probably won’t say it all now, but I’ll keep reading over the things you said. They gave me a lot to think about. Thank you so, so much for taking the time to write it all.
Like x said, it hurts to know what it puts you through to comment. I treasure every one of them. I know you said this was your last comment and your time is running out. But just on the off chance that you see my reply, if you could manage it you could email me. (It’s in my profile section.) You could just say who you are and I’d write back. I’d love to be able to talk to you, even just once more, before anything happens. If I don’t hear from you again, then just know how important you are to me.
I’ll always remember you. x is right, you have a light that shines. To me you are a shining light. That’s how I’ll remember you. 🙂
I relate to everything you wrote and what you have been experiencing. I can only hope you will be able to find an answer and find relief.
I really thank you for the kindness you have given me. You helped me feel less alone in my pain. You’re a wonderful and beautiful soul.
Love and hugs. 🙂 <3
@hiohneh,
Thank you for all your kindness as well. 🙂 You have a beautiful soul too. I love reading your posts and comments. I hope you continue to shine and find relief from your own demons.